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A Review of Nanotech's Future

captainsaavik writes "A Washington Post article today reviews nanotechnology - 'Nanotechnology, the hot young science of making invisibly tiny machines and materials, is stirring public anxiety and nascent opposition inspired by best-selling thrillers that have demonized the science -- and new studies suggesting that not everything in those novels is fantasy.'"

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  1. Unstoppable by IanBevan · · Score: 5, Interesting

    We will research, improve, innovate and ultimately implement nanotech solutions for one simple reason: we can. It's been the same right throughout human history.

    The views of the objectors, no matter how well founded and how well intentioned, will not lead to r&d into nanotech (or any other new technology, including human cloning) being stopped. At best it might be delayed, but even then the money to be made by Big Business makes this unlikely IMO.

    Can anybody think of any kind of new technology that has been abandoned, or even significantly delayed, through alleged (or real) risks ? I suspect new technologies are only abandoned because they are not feasible either technically or commercially (cost too much, too late to market etc) rather than for some ethical or environment consideration.

    1. Re:Unstoppable by FlipmodePlaya · · Score: 4, Interesting

      If it counts for anything, most of my area is powered by a nuclear plant... It hasn't really been abandoned, judging by the electric bill I'm continually served with.

    2. Re:Unstoppable by NixLuver · · Score: 4, Interesting
      I know that here in the midwest, the red-tailed hawk has recovered in population - you never saw them at all when I was a child.

      I've also seen the nests with crushed eggs that collapsed under the weight of the mother 'way back in the gradeschool days, from people who weren't aware of any political agenda behind DDT.

      I'm not one to reject out of hand the concept of the government putting political and corporate concerns above and ahead of the health of their citizens. Perhaps you can tell me, then, if it wasn't the DDT used extensively here in the country's breadbasket, what, exactly, was it that caused the fragility of the Raptor's eggs back then, and where did it go?

  2. Diamond Age, I pray for thee by Azghoul · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ... and I'm a friggin atheist. :)

    Man, I can't wait. Of course, the greatest innovations of the coming Diamond Age haven't even been imagined yet, if history is any guide.......

    (just wish they'd hurry up)

  3. fantasy? ya right by t0ny · · Score: 3, Interesting
    The early claims ranged from immortality to Star Trek-like shields.

    First, its going to be really hard, IMO, to get these things to autoreplicate as suggested. Shit, we cant even get large robots to replicate; how will they get nano-sized ones to do so?

    Personally, I only see nanotech being used in manufacturing, but eventaully branching into other things after a century or so (similiar to the way computer tech has spread).

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  4. Backlash. by jabberjaw · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Does anyone recall the hostility encountered with GM crops in Europe and Africa? I do believe that corporations are going to have to take a good long hard look at how they are going to handle the public with regards to nanotech.

  5. Re:The ultimate vaporware... by Saeger · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Very funny, but what you call vaporware actually has a real name: "Utility Fog"

    Imagine it as a huge mesh of strong, flexible, microscopic interlocking nodes with a distributed brain. Its density is so low that you couldn't see it in a volume as small as a glass, but like a cloud it becomes more opaque with thickness. Sort of like that aerogel stuff, but more XTREME(!).

    The applications of utility fog are boundless, but one I'm sure parents would love is the "security blanket" for their kids - the fog would act as smart 24/7 airbag extending for several feet around the body so little Timmy never gets bruised falling down the stairs...

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  6. Grey goo fake/medical risks real by kirkjobsluder · · Score: 4, Interesting

    One of the things that I appreciated about this article was how it only spent a small bit on the grey goo hypothesis. The folks who propose any kind of a goo should step back from the science fiction, and read some biochemestry and microbial ecology. Energy is probably the primary limited resource for replication and there just is not that much out there available to nano-scale machines or organisms.

    The medical concerns should be taken seriously however. The Center for Biological and Environmental Nanotechnology has a nice page that promises to be a clearinghouse for information on these issues.

  7. Bad news is still news... by thrill12 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    so this publicity is probably a good thing, even though they never tell the truth.
    I can still remember the days when these books hit the shelves:
    "Evil steam-monster", around 1803, told a horrifying tale about a big steel monster that spewed steam, ran over everyone and made everyone cough very heavily.
    "Lightning horror!", around 1877, very good thriller about artificially created light that made zombies of everyone so they couldn't stop working for the whole 24 hours.
    "Tube of death", around 1926, which was mostly about a tube that transmitted moving light-beams and brainwashed everyone with stories about fictious people through their everyday lifes.

    See, nothing to worry about...

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  8. Gov't Downplaying Nanotech like Nuclear by Saeger · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Some of the best evidence for the feasibility of advanced nanotech is that the government has recently started up a disinformation campaign as a smokescreen to accelerate their own research. They did the same thing back in the 40's when developing nuclear weapons: publicly poopooing it on the one hand to discourage others, while actively developing it on the other.

    A salient quote from a nanodot.org article on this subject:

    After the seminar, I happen to bump into Drexler and have a rare opportunity to speak with him alone. I bring up the possibility that there could be a secret military project to develop nanoassemblers, and the current government position in the nanotech debate is a disinformation program.

    Following the briefest of pauses, Drexler looks me in the eye and replies in the same high, clear voice I'd heard him use during the panel discussion, "Those things are hard to know about." He still has his game face on.

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  9. 2000? "Grey Goo" hypothesis is older than this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The fears about nanotech existed far earlier than 2000. I don't know the origin of the term "grey goo" but I know it existed in the early '90s, as it is referenced by Ben Bova in his Moonbase series of novels, which deal with issues surrounding nanotech (unfortunately, from a purely scientific viewpoint, it seems..)

  10. Biological nanotechnology by ToKsUri · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Is there any field of study of "biological nanotechnology" ? I have always found a big relationship in the way many biological features work with nanotechnology, but in a more comlicated and refines way
    For example a seed, could be considered as a nanotechnology machine which develops an extraordinary system (tree) by arranging the molecules in it sourrounding.

  11. Re:The ultimate vaporware... by qeveren · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm hoping that Wil McCarthy is successful in his development of programmable matter, AKA Wellstone. I want a Bunkerlite(tm) jacket! :D

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  12. Re:The ultimate vaporware... by killbill! · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Nanotech if it takes off like predicted will basically change society like electricty did.

    Want a new car?
    br> Dump some scrap metal in the factory, load up the car image you torrented off the internet last night, and in a few hours you have your new ferrai.

    We might start getting beer that is free as in software. :)

    If you hated the reaction from the RIAA/MPAA, wait for the reaction of lobbyists for the entire industrial sector.
    The objective value of any good is only the cost of making an identical copy. Which, in the case of the home entertainment industry, boils down to the cost of the mere material support, which amounts to jack sh#t nowadays ($.60/GB atm and dropping).
    With nanotech, the very same phenomenon will happen: the objective value of every tangible good will drop to virtually nothing - especially with easier-than-ever recycling (which would definitely be a Good Thing). Companies will never manage to recoup development and trial-and-error costs, and might even be eventually replaced with an even larger version of what we currently know as the Open/Free Source movement.

    Our entire society, which is based on the concept of scarcity and of a chain of accumulated added value, would crumble instantly.
    However, while there have been some individual or short-term cases of utter stupidity among large corporations (SCO anyone? :D), over the long term don't think one single minute they would sell the nano-communists the rope they would use to hang them.
    Big Business knows and wants one thing: to keep its current position sustainable.

    This is the reason I don't see this happening without some _MASSIVE_ DRM. Digital music is but the very first battle.

  13. Risk Awareness by Wardish · · Score: 4, Interesting

    After having read the article, Yep I RTFA.

    Good article overall. Points out that the extent of nanotechnology is likely to be less than some hope and fear.

    The gray goo ideal is hampered by design, energy and speed/movement constraints which means that it's only going to be a problem if we haven't the technology to combat isolated outbreaks.

    We can't put the genie back in the bottle, someone is going to study this technology and use it for unfriendly ends. The only question is will we have the knowledge and skills necessary to counter that.

    I believe that restrictive regulation would make it more likely that we wouldn't have the resources to fight such threats. I also believe that there is a limited period of vulnerability until all citizens have defenses as part of their normal biotechnological compliment. The less restriction on research in the bio/nano technology arena the faster I believe we can get through this threatening period.

    As an aside on "Prey", I've noticed over the years that Mr. Crichton has made it a point to use his status and writing talents against Bio and Nano technologies. I understand that he has every right to do so, but I also believe I've a right to point out such.

    *chuckle* it's going to be a VERY interesting couple of decades...

    *now* back to my regularly scheduled Thorazine dose...

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