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Trojan Horse Caused A Siberian Explosion

An anonymous reader writes "William Safire of the nytimes [nytimes.com] has an interesting column this week describing how the Soviets purchased bogus computer chips from the West in the 1970's. These chips caused what "was the most monumental non-nuclear explosion and fire ever seen from space." Fascinating story."

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  1. Google Link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    For the tin foil hat crowd, here is a register free link: The Story

    1. Re:Google Link by antime · · Score: 5, Informative

      Why not use the Slashot partner link when they are kind enough to provide one?

  2. Re:Meanwhile in Russia by AlaskanUnderachiever · · Score: 4, Informative
    Really it's fairly simple. I seem to recall from some basic classes that the reason behind a base-2 system is because an on/off state is a LOT more reliable than anything else.

    Because voltage levels tend to drift a bit (especially with time and erosion) a system that's set up to read as either one state or another has quite a bit more built in tolerance for drift than one that's built to sense more than two states. It's been a LONG ass time since I took any compsci however so I'm probably missing a few things. Basically what I'm saying is that it's not only possible, such a system "could" be faster and more compact but it would also be horribly prone to errors in the long run.

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  3. Re:Pentium I bug. by TwistedGreen · · Score: 4, Informative

    Though the article doesn't actually mention bogus computer chips... it talked about software stolen by the KGB which was altered with deliberate flaws, causing their oil pipeline to malfunction and explode.

    I wonder if the editor RTFA.

  4. Re:Meanwhile in Russia by saforrest · · Score: 5, Informative

    A brief explanation of ternary logic for those who don't want to bother reading my link.

    In addition to TRUE and FALSE, you have another state, which represents "I don't know". It's conventionally called FAIL (well, at least it is in Maple).

    How do the truth tables work? The basic idea is that if you have a function f(x) where x is TRUE or FALSE, then you can define f for FAIL with this rule:

    IF f(TRUE) = f(FALSE) THEN
    f(FAIL) := f(TRUE)
    ELSE
    f(FAIL) := FAIL
    END IF

    So this means you have TRUE AND FAIL = FAIL, but TRUE OR FAIL = TRUE (because TRUE OR TRUE = TRUE OR FALSE = TRUE).

    Converting ternary logic to arithmetic modulo 3 is a little more complicated, but once when I was bored I worked out the rules for myself.

  5. Farewell, CIA, DGSE and other rants... by Noryungi · · Score: 5, Informative
    (I am probably going to be moderated down in flames for this, but what the heck... Entering 'Rant' mode...)

    From the article:

    President Francois Mitterrand of France also opposed the gas pipeline. He took President Reagan aside at a conference in Ottawa on July 19, 1981, to reveal that France had recruited a key K.G.B. officer in Moscow Center. Col. Vladimir Vetrov provided what French intelligence called the Farewell dossier.

    This little bit of information is more or less correct. "Farewell" was the code name assigned to Col. Vetrov by his French DGSE (French CIA) handlers.

    The next time you are tempted to say that France is not an ally of the USA, just remember that little bit of transatlantic cooperation. I personally think Mitterand was a crook, a thief and a sleazeball -- and I am trying to stay polite, here... But, ultimately, he may have done the right thing here.

    But Safire glosses over the saddest part of the Farewell history (emphasis mine):

    Vetrov was caught and executed in 1983. A year later, Bill Casey ordered the K.G.B. collection network rolled up, closing the Farewell dossier. [...] Now is a time to remember that sometimes our spooks get it right in a big way.

    What Safire does not says is that:
    1. Farewell was a French agent, and not an American one! Give credit where credit is due!!
    2. Col. Vetrov, aka Farewell, died because of the CIA involvement (If I remember well, he was caught communicating to American agents after the big explosion mentioned), and before DGSE could smuggle him and his family out of the USSR. In short, he paid the price for American incompetence.


    In short: every good intelligence in this story was supplied by the French, and the USA made a mess of it, an important source was killed and years of hard work were wasted.

    A little bit like the recent situation with a middle-east country with vast oil reserves, but I digress... You can mod me down now. End of Rant mode.
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    1. Re:Farewell, CIA, DGSE and other rants... by subtropolis · · Score: 3, Informative

      As i've posted in elsewhere, here is an article written by gus weiss. He mentions the circumstances behind Vetrov's uncovering. Unfortunately, it's a bit thin. Any ex-KGB operatives here who could fill us in?

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  6. Re:I'm seriously skeptical by BigTom · · Score: 5, Informative

    The story of the program is partially corroborated here:

    Though there is no information about the explosion.

  7. Re:Meanwhile in Russia by jejones · · Score: 3, Informative

    That would be Setun. (I'm not up on Russian, so that may well be Russian for "trinity.")

  8. Not Exactly... by virg_mattes · · Score: 4, Informative

    > The Soviets stole Canadian software to control the operations of the pipeline. The Americans added a trojan horse to the software.

    Not precisely true. The Americans sold technology to the Canadians, but wouldn't sell it to the Soviets. Soviet agents posed as Canadian defense contractors to get purchasing rights. The Americans knew they were doing it, and fed poisoned devices to those agents. The agents took the tech home to Russia and BOOM!

    Virg

  9. Re:It's not terrorism if Americans cause it by schmaltz · · Score: 3, Informative

    The U.S. gov't knew that 15 years earlier, Saddam gassed the Kurds, in part because U.S. companies and the CIA provided the materials needed to produce those WMD, and continued providing Iraq assistance even after the U.S. had knowledge of their use against the Kurds.

    We also knew the WMD existed because the U.N. oversaw their destruction after Persian Gulf War I.

    Isn't it funny that, after getting the green light from the U.S. to become a mass murderer, the U.S. spun that knowledge to begin their own campaign of death and destruction in Iraq? You don't know who to believe anymore.

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  10. At the time, magnetic corrosion was suspected by citanon · · Score: 3, Informative
    From http://zeus.nascom.nasa.gov/~pbrekke/soho/spacewea ther/spnews.ps:
    Long pipelines stretching hundreds of miles can also run afowl of solar storms. As the earth's magnetic field becomes agitated, these moving magnetic fields near the earth's surface can induce currents to flow in any conducting material like pipe lines or power lines. Over time, these currents can cause increased corrosion and weakening of pipeline walls which are under very high pressure as the liquified gas is pumped at the fastest possible speeds to make them commercially profitable.

    Alaskan Oil Pipeline has been specially protected from corrosion caused by ground currents that are induced by geomagnetic activity. Older pipelines were not constructed with these safeguards built into their design, and this can lead to catastrophic and tragic failures.

    June 1989 Trans - Siberian Railway explosion The New York Times Monday, June 5 1989 Front Page "500 on 2 trains reported killed by soviet gas pipeline explosion"

    On June 4, a powerful gasline explosion demolished part of the Trans-Siberian Tailroad engulfing two passenger trains in flames. Rescue workers at the Ural Mountain site worked frantically to rescue passengers. Of the 1200, all but 500 could be saved. Many of the victims were children bound for holiday camps by the Black Sea. It happened Saturday night between the towns of Ufa and Asha. Apparently gas from a leak in the pipe line was egnited by the two passing trains. The gas settled into the valley that the trains were passing through at the time. Rumors of sabotage were wide spread among the local population.

  11. Re:Meanwhile in Russia by versus · · Score: 3, Informative

    No it is not. Trinity is spelled "troyitsa" in Russian.

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  12. More info from the CIA by Rufus211 · · Score: 4, Informative

    The CIA actually has a fairly long article (study?) on their website about this incident here

  13. Re:Pentium I bug. by ncc74656 · · Score: 4, Informative
    Back in the early 80's I remember DEC had reported that a couple of their VAXs somehow shoed up in the USSR.

    kremvax was an April Fool's joke.

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  14. Re:Pentium I bug. by Slashamatic · · Score: 4, Informative
    Ok, I worked at the company that produced the telemetry and control system for the trans-sib pipeline in 79. The telemetry subsystems used MC6800s and I think they couldn't use PDP11s because they would have been export embargoed. They had their own computer but it was primitive. Compressed-air systems may have worked for plants, but for pipelines forget it. The networking was plain horrible. Effectively raw HDLC.

    There were EPROMS with software on in the telemetry boards but they didn't have the control software. Hell, there was no control automation, all the kit did was to report on instruments, collect operator adjustments and send them to actuators.

    As for the VAX 11/780, actually thanks to VMS it could give about 20 people some degree of word-processing, so a little better than the PC even though smaller and slower. I later at a chemical company used VAXen to run above the basic PDP-11 based telemetry systems to provide plant-level supervision.

    The usual with a hot-standby system was that both would be active and one would follow the state of the other (we did something similar for the telemtry system). There would have been two PSUs definitely.

  15. Re:Chile dawgs. by Zeinfeld · · Score: 3, Informative
    He certainly was a fascist. He annexed the oil fields to his personal control.

    Mosadegh nationalized the oil fields after Anglo-Persian refused to allow him to even have the books audited. It was well known that the Iranians were being cheated of the megre share they were allowed of the oil revenues. Even the US administration thought that Anglo-Persian had brought the crisis on themselves. Had they offered a 50:50 split they would have kept their place.

    No, they were not. The Shah, secular whatever his faults, kept their power down.

    The installation of the shah as dictator was never going to be very stable for very long. The Shah was only the second of his line, his father had replaced the previous monarchy only 40 years earlier. The way the Shah was installed meant that he would never be seen as anything more than a foreign puppet and his eventual fall was inevitable. It was highly unlikely that the mullahs would ever have gained control if operation Ajax had never taken place.

    What are you smoking? Saddam's involvement with the CIA was brief, and long after he put himself in power.

    Saddam came to power in a party coup with US support. The CIA provided him with lists of opponents to liquidate. The US supported Saddam from the very beginning of his rule, all the way through to the invasion of Kewait. Even that would have been allowed if he had only kept the northern oil fields where the Kewaitis had been under-drilling Iraq's oil fields which was the original agreement.

    Iran did have CIA involvement. However, Saddam put himself in power, and the CIA only helped him (along with many others) during a brief part of his long reign.

    The CIA was mucking about in Iraqi politics ever since the British left.

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