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Introducing Nvu, A Web-Authoring Application
An anonymous reader writes "MozillaZine is reporting that the first public beta of Nvu has been released. "What's that?", I hear you cry. Well, Nvu (pronounced 'N-View', short for 'New View') is a new open source WYSIWYG Web page creator/editor with FTP facilities that produces standards-compliant code. It is based on Mozilla Composer and is being developed by ex-Netscape employee Daniel Glazman's new company, Disruptive Innovations, under licence for Lindows.com. All the code for Nvu will be released back into the wild under the MPL/LGPL/GPL tri-licence. More information is available in the Nvu FAQ. Users of LindowsOS, other Linux distributions and Windows 98 and later can download Nvu 0.1 now." TheWanderingHermit writes points out that the feature list includes "(finally!) the ability to include and edit forms."
If you see his screenshots, they seem impressive. I'm at 85% right now and plan on doing some testing tonight with it.
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1 less reason to get stuck with DreamWeaver MX at work
Get paid to code OSS
new open source WYSIWYG Web page creator/editor with FTP facilities
Just when the world finally stopped caring about FrontPage and FrontPage look alikes and started implementing MovableType, pMachine and fully-GPLed WordPress and other content-management system for full blown sites, open source community comes up with something no one gives a fuck anymore, since we've moved on from FrontPage.
Way to go, guys, innovation at its best. So in 5 years can I except a full framework for XML-driven clients (hint: Microsoft OneNote) being a new innovation??
for starters, it will run on more platforms than dreamweaver...
Not really. Dreamweaver has windows and mac, this has windows and linux.
For Windows users... like Firebird (pre 0.8) you can just unzip this and go. However, you may get it bitching about missing DLLs (I did, on a reasonably clean install of XP). The two that were missing were C runtime libraries, which I managed to download at dll-files.com (never heard of it before, but it works). msvcp70.dll and msvcr70.dll. As ever, exercise caution, although it has worked for me :-)
Lindows, the new model free-software citizen. They're also supporting kde-look.org and kde-apps.org... What else are they contributing?
Liberty.
Downloading, untar.gzippining, looking for the source code among all those x86 dlls, still looking, ... not found!
Hey! Either stop lying that it is 100% open source or publish a compilable source. Now!
Less is more !
Don't use this program to edit any HTML files containing PHP code. It does not like PHP code and will actually modify the file and partially remove your PHP code.
So... unless you feel like loosing your programming code and completely stuffing up your file, stay away from this program.
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What's with all the white space at the bottom of most pages on their site?
http://nvu.com/features.html
I just downloaded it to my Fedora Core 1 machine, and couldn't getting it to run.
NOTE: The tarball unpacks into the current directory! It doesn't create a subdirectory for itself!
There is no 'install' script at all. Untarring is the installation, so put it where you want.
When I run it, it fails and reports that I'm missing two libraries, one I do have and one I don't.
I looked at the start script and it's got a Mozilla 1.7a path hardcoded in there. I'm running Mozilla 1.6, so that's probably part of the problem.
The script also seems to expect an installation of the MRE (Mozilla Runtime Environment) Is this it?
There's no README file, no LICENSE file, no docs of any kind. It'd be nice to have the dependencies identified.
Anyone else getting it running on Fedora Core 1? With or without Mozilla 1.7a? With or without the MRE/GRE?
Still hoping for the best...
Software Wars
You've forgotten what it's like to be on 56K, haven't you?
I think the primary potential value offered by Nvu is as a clean free WYSIWYG HTML/CSS page editor. I do not know of anything even yet on the horizon to make such a thing obsolete. Heck, I'm still waiting for correct CSS2 and PNG alpha channel support in IE... :-)
Larry
Nvu (pronounced 'N-View', short for 'New View')
While I agree that Nvu is a pretty cool name, why do people feel the need to "shorten" something that's already just two syllables? And NewView even seems to roll off the tongue more easily than N-View.
At least it's not as bad as "WWW", which is a nine-syllable "abbreviation" for the three-syllable phrase "World-Wide Web". Radio announcers all over are still cursing Tim Berners-Lee for that one.
Graham "Teach" Mitchell, computer science teacher, Leander HS
I just sent this to 'feedback at nvu dot com', and will post whatever response I get to this thread.
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I recently learned of your project through a link from Slashdot.org.
Link to Slashdot story: http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/
It appears that you are definitely filling a need within the F/OSS community, and I applaud your group and Lindows, your sponsor, for that.
There appears to be some concern from the Slashdot community about the availability of source for Nvu. Although I am not a programmer of any real skill (and cannot fully judge if the tar.gz I downloaded contains human-readable source), others have complained that the full source is NOT included.
Link to relevant Slashdot comment:
http://developers.slashdot.org/comments
Although your site states that this is a Beta release, you also claim to build off of Mozilla Composer, which is available under the GPL (and two other licenses). If Mozilla Composer was distributed only under the GPL, it would require you to make full source available to those you re-distribute to.
However, I have noticed that Composer is available under the GPL / MPL / LGPL. I would greatly appreciate clarification of how your obligations differ under these licenses, as I am significantly less familiar with them. You may also wish to update your FAQ with this information, as I am sure I am not the only one with these questions.
I look forward to your reply, and the clearing up of any confusion that may exist in regards to this. Additionaly, I anticipate using Nvu and providing feedback to make this a great product for Lindows and all other users of F/OSS.
Thank you for your time.
- Neil Wehneman
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" Heck, I'm still waiting for correct ... PNG alpha channel support in IE.."
Us artists are too.
"Derp de derp."
Lindows.com takes lots of bullets from the Slashdot crowd, but it sure seem to me that Robertson and company actually deliver. Here's a list of things just in the last few months that Lindows.com has done:
nVu released - Seems likea great product to rival Frontpage and is available for all Linux flavors and MSWin. Seems like Lindows.com paid for this whole thing. They seem to support lots of open source if you look at: http://lindows.com/opensource
Desktop Linux Summit - Just announced that it will be held in April with sponsors such as Sun and Redhat. They are expecting 1000 people http://www.desktoplinux.org
300,000 Laptops - Shipping 300,000 laptops at $699. This has to be the largest real deployment of desktop Linux. And unlike Sun's vapor announcement, they named the company, the model and the channel. Anyone know where you can buy one of these yet?
Using P2P - They are first commercial company using P2P to distribute their software. I read this story on news.com. You can get LindowsLive from Bittorrent and other networks. See: lindows.com/p2p
Standing up to the beast - They have a trial coming up to return the generic word "windows" to the public domain. I think they will win. See: http://lindows.com/mslawsuit
Say what you want about Lindows.com marketing, but they're getting it done. desktop linux is happening because of these guys. they're also getting their machines sold in real stores, but I forget which ones (not just online).
The title says it all. MPL/GPL/LGPL as promised. Get it there.
CrossOver Office recently announced full support for DWMX. You could probably be even more bold than saying at least 90%.
When the whole "Troll" thing failed, you guys tried "Flamebait."
I swear, you zealot moderators just won't quit, will you?
Of course, I notice that nobody has yet taken the time to answer my questions. I'm sure that's mostly because it got mod-bombed down to -1 and most people didn't see it, but could it also be because I touched on an uncomfortable truth?
You got modded down because you have asked many of the same questions that have been beaten into oblivion about ten thousand times over the last few years concerning other projects . Also, your tone was somewhat snide and made it appear your mind is made up and that it would be a waste of time and effort to try and change it. Just because you feel it to be a well considered post doesn't mean the rest of us have to.
You got modded down because you have asked many of the same questions that have been beaten into oblivion about ten thousand times over the last few years concerning other projects .
I think you're overlooking something. The questions I asked might have been discussed before, but they've never been adequately answered in any context. Some people are evidently uncomfortable with that, and would rather ignore those things which they can't answer.
Also, your tone was somewhat snide and made it appear your mind is made up and that it would be a waste of time and effort to try and change it.
It's a waste of time to just repeat the same old non-answers.
Just because you feel it to be a well considered post doesn't mean the rest of us have to.
No, you can live in denial if you want to. It's just a shame that those who are made uncomfortable by such reasonable and thoughtful questions feel compelled to try to prevent others from seeing them through shameless abuse of the moderation system.
i burned my mod points earlier, otherwise i would've modded up your questions - they seem like good ones to me, FWIW.
attacking the whole 'free software just because' is a crapshoot - i've been modded troll for it, but my last post about tools and work and being productive was modded up to +4... who woulda thunk?