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Google Traffic Takes Down Web Site

bazonkers writes "Searchenginelowdown.com reports that it appears that the Google logo yesterday (honoring Gaston Julia) linked to the Google image search results for the words 'julia fractal'. The resulting traffic generated from clicking on that 'featured logo' incapacitated the servers of the top-listed images, hosted at an Australian university. This more than inconvenienced the owners of that site, who had to move pages and ended up displaying this page instead."

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  1. Yeah by Dutchy+Wutchy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Looks like no one has heard of /.

  2. Insult to Injury by DarkHelmet · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oh beautiful!

    Let's add slashdot to our list of sites DDOSing us!

    Wow, you Slashdot Editors like kicking people while they're down, huh?

    And while we're at it, why not make the file redirect to www.sco.com? Oh wait... that's been done.

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    1. Re:Insult to Injury by Dukael_Mikakis · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I hope /. doesn't lose its rep as the premiere internet stampede as people start referring to the "Google effect".

      Much as I enjoy perusing information (and I do follow the links), this does raise a good question. Obviously, it's generally a good thing for a website to get traffic (usually, that's why the website's there), but are there moral implications for overloading a perfectly innocent site (fortunately, this site seems academic, so we aren't hurting business, per se)? Should we have a guilty conscience for bring down servers as wantonly as we do? I think not, as the Internet is open and free and who's going to stop us, but it's an interesting point they raise.

      Reminds me of when I served at a restaurant and managers would complain when business was slow, but they'd get equally upset if a couple of buses pulled in and we were slammed with 100+ customers all at once. With so many customers, it was tough for us to give them good service, much less take good care of the customers we already had. I guess the exposure Google (and /.) gives can be, as they say, as much a blessing as a curse.

    2. Re:Insult to Injury by 00420 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Should we have a guilty conscience for bring down servers as wantonly as we do? I think not, as the Internet is open and free and who's going to stop us

      The fact that somebody can stop you is not what makes something bad.

      Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying bringing down servers is a horrible thing, I'm just saying your argument sucks.

    3. Re:Insult to Injury by the_mad_poster · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think not, as the Internet is open and free and who's going to stop us, but it's an interesting point they raise.

      Technically speaking, there are a lot of immoral things that nobody is going to stop you from doing. If a kid hits their ball in your yard, you can just keep the gate locked and throw the ball in the trash. Doesn't mean it's right (unless they're doing it just to irritate you or something).

      Some netizens don't like to admit the fact, but there is a certain level of responsibility that you need to have to partake in the Internet. Everyone is expected to do their fair share to keep things running, but a lot of people shirk that and just run rampant over everyone else. From networks bogged down by bandwidth hogs stealing movies and music to spammers to Slashdot, some people insist on just wantonly snatching everything they can grab and running for the hills.

      Is anyone going to stop you? No, of course not. However, after awhile, you'll be left with nothing else to grab because nobody will see any value in providing anything for anyone else. Make it a hassle for people to give you stuff for free, and they just won't give it to you anymore.

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  3. Oh mighty Google... by LostCluster · · Score: 5, Informative

    Google just proved that they aren't in the content business, just the search business. When Google made a rare and somewhat nonsensical editorial comment in the form of their modified logo, many people clicked the logo to see where it lead, and where it lead to was a Google image search that yeilded interesting results, so people clicked the images in the hope for information about Gaston Julia...

    Google should have written their own article explaining why they decided that Gaston Julia was worthy of being honored. Instead, they simply supplied a suggested search query and passed the curious users to sites who weren't expecting the rush... if Google had asked, I'm sure they would have been able to get an academic to write a decent page to satisfy the curious users, but Google seems to have underestimated the power they have...

  4. Damn by Raul654 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I was just about to point out the same thing. Oh well... I think I'll go and reload the site a couple more times, just to rub it in.

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  5. Should Google try to convert its traffic to money? by LostCluster · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Imagine just how much money could Google make if they sold just a small ad on their home page on a 24-hour basis occasionally, maybe even limited to modifying the Google logo in an agreed upon way linked to a page on the sponsoring site. http://www.google.com has to be the most hit page on the planet right now, so such an ad would have awesome power and be able to command top dollar.

    Google's clearly taking the high road by making their home page an ad-page zone. I wonder how long that's going to last after the IPO and by definition, profit-hungry interests (such as your 401k plan) get control of the company.

  6. Full text by trickycamel · · Score: 5, Informative

    Page already loading slow, here's the full text

    Using Google?

    Looking for images of quaternion fractals?

    On the 3rd of February 2004, this page (or rather the page that was here) was swamped by requests and the server subsequentially failed. The reason was traced to Google introducing a fractal looking logo (see below), which when clicked, performed an image search for "julia" and "fractal". The two most interesting resulting images on the top row of the list were on this page (or rather the page that was here).

    [Image used without permission from Google]

    In order to get this server functional again, the pages that were here have been moved somewhere else. It shouldn't be too hard to find them if you really want to, do a Google search for "Quaternion fractal" or if you would like to create your own Quaternion fractals try POVRay.

    Please note that this is not a criticism of Google but rather an interesting dimension to the power they wield. They have hundreds (thousands?) of servers worldwide that distribute their traffic load. If even a small percentage of that traffic is directed to a single server.....what chance does it have?

    Questions: Should Google ask permission before potentially sending huge traffic loads to a single page/server? Should they regulate traffic to individual sites/pages by changing the order of the search results?
    Happy searching!

    Google giveth
    and Google taketh away
    Blessed is Google?
    [Roger Bagula]

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  7. Re:Slashdot Effect now by CeleronXL · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yeah, it'll be nice when they make another alt page against Slashdot.. and then it makes Slashdot news again. =)

  8. Surprising by Aneurysm · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm a little surprised that this has never happened before, as they often have featured logos. I guess those fractals must have just looked too alluring, and people had to see them. Then again, i'm quite surprised that so many people click on the featured graphic, perhaps people who aren't familiar with Julia, and were interested in what the graphic meant?

  9. Mirror by delta407 · · Score: 5, Informative

    The key difference here is that when something gets posted to Slashdot, people often have the ability to grab and post mirrors. Like this one, for instance.

    (You're welcome.)

  10. New service: Google CachePlus? by LostCluster · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Google clearly has an international network of highly powered servers that have the ability to send out content via HTTP. Maybe Google could open up a side business for those who need a lot of web capacity fast for a short duration, for those who want to keep their websites up despite a major media mention that will quickly subside.

  11. Re:Should Google try to convert its traffic to mon by MrRTFM · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No.

    Because that would be the first step down the slipperly slope into a full blown portal with weather, news, horoscopes, blah, blah, blah.

    Keep it clean and simple, or they will no longer be the number one

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  12. pretty cool response they had by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    By phrasing the issue in a shape of a question rather than just complaining about it they really gained my respect and admiration.

    Some people understand that the purpose of a university (or any educator really) is to provoke thought and to impart knowledge and information. But also to let the end user (usually a student) draw their own conclusions.

    The way the page is phrased makes me think that the person behind it - even supposing I didn't know he works with fractals - is one cool guy and probably a really awesome professor.

  13. The Kipper and the Corpse: by bstadil · · Score: 5, Funny
    Reminds me of the scene from Fawlty Towers the The Kipper and the Corpse:

    Miss Gatsby: You're very cheerful this morning, Mr Fawlty.

    Basil: (cheerfully) Yes, well one of the guests has just died.

    (Polly slaps Miss Tibbs, who folds up and falls to the floor)

    Basil: (to Polly) Oh, spiffing! Absolutely spiffing. Well done! Two dead, twenty five to go.

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  14. Using my time machine .... by Dukael_Mikakis · · Score: 5, Funny

    Here's the full text from the website tomorrow:

    Browsing Slashdot?

    Looking for the page complaining about Google?

    On the 4rd of February 2004, this page (or rather the page that was here) was swamped by requests and the server subsequentially failed. The reason was traced to Slashdot(see image below) posting an article about a webpage about Google posting an image about fractals, which when clicked accessed our web page. The link went directly to a page about google (or rather the page that was here).

    [Image used without permission from Slashdot]

    In order to get this server functional again, the page that was here has been moved somewhere else. It shouldn't be too hard to find it if you really want to, do a Google search for "Using google fractal" or if you would like to complain more about google try googlewatch.

    Please note that this is not a criticism of Slashdot or nerd but rather an interesting dimension to the power they wield. They have hundreds (thousands?) of members worldwide that distribute their traffic load. If even a small percentage of that traffic is directed to a single server.....what chance does it have?

    Questions: Should Slashdot ask permission before potentially sending huge traffic loads to a single page/server? Should they regulate traffic to individual sites/pages by allowing accesses by karma? Why do so few of them have girlfriends?
    Happy slashdotting!

    Slashdot nerdeth
    and Google geeketh away
    Blessed is the dork?

  15. Farked too by zjbs14 · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Google page was listed on Fark yesterday. So that site has been: 1. Googled 2. Farked 3. Now /.'ed The unintentional DDoS trifecta!

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    1. Re:Farked too by Dukael_Mikakis · · Score: 5, Funny

      Now if only booble had an excuse to link to them ...

  16. Re:*sigh* by LostCluster · · Score: 5, Informative

    Since this came from a google search, there is a pretty simple way to prevent this from happening, without having Google do anything - use your robots.txt to stop google from indexing your site.

    Google is opt-in. If you don't want to be indexed, don't be.


    Ew... that's spammer talk. Google complies with robots.txt, but that's an opt-out signal. Those with no robots.txt are presumed to want to be listed. A true opt-in system would require an affirmative robots.txt before Google spiders a site... which isn't the reality.

  17. This proves it. by teamhasnoi · · Score: 5, Funny
    Slashdot is a big wuss compared to Google.

    C'mon you geeks! Take off those pocket protectors and put on the gloves! Google's callin' you out!

  18. Re:Should Google try to convert its traffic to mon by Neurotoxic666 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    just how much money could Google make if they sold just a small ad on their home page

    But then, would it still be Google?

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  19. My site was "Cthuugled", too by paulproteus · · Score: 5, Interesting

    At 8:00 a.m. EST, my Mom IM'd me at school to tell me that the Internet as slow at home. At 9:00, my friend who uses my wiki told me that he had been letting it load for about an hour and it wasn't loading. The Xbox-Linux project's wiki also is hosted on my server, and it was inaccessible.

    All these web sites are hosted on my little Linux box in my basement, on my parents' cable-modem with 40 KB/s up to the Internet. What happened to me was that the Google logo, linking to the image search for "julia fractals", had my friend Jonathan's site as the top hit. (The exact hit was this page.)

    The page was all-but inaccessible, as was my server. I eventually SSH'd in, copied the files to my JHU web hosting space, and set up an Apache redirect to serve the files from there. JHU (my university) has a pretty big pipe, I've learned over the years I've been here. :-).

    I mentioned this in a blog entry I made on the topic. It seems that now the search finds some other first hit, the .edu.au site mentioned in the story. Perhaps that's because my server was "Cthuugled" (eaten alive by Google, that is), and no one could reach the first link for so many hours.

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  20. Deathmatch by vikstar · · Score: 5, Funny

    I would like to see Google create a link from the main "Google" picture to Slashdot, and at the same time get Slashdot to write a post about it linking to the Google site, and see who's servers drown first.

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  21. Re:Slashdot Effect now by xoran99 · · Score: 5, Funny
    Yeah, it'll be nice when they make another alt page against Slashdot.. and then it makes Slashdot news again. =)

    How fitting... This important work by Julia is all about recursion... :P

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  22. Pizza Overload by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When I worked summers up on Cape Cod Mass at a family-owned pizza shop, a couple times during the summer we'd have the /. pizza effect -- the local sea camps would call in an order for 200 pizzas, or a couple of tour busses would pull in the lot with 100 hungry riders.

    Did they call in advance? Did they ask permission to swamp us? Did we redirect them out the door and decline their order? Of course not. Variability in demand is a part of business.

    The same goes for the half-dozen toys that Time Magazine says are the hot Christmas items, which suddenly disappear from the shelves. Should shoppers be restricted from buying them in order to maintain a few on the shelves?

    Suddenly popular websites have the same consequence to the consumer - unavailability of supply. People find alternatives, come back later, etc.

    So am I missing something dramatically new here?

    1. Re:Pizza Overload by the_mad_poster · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yes, actually - the Internet doesn't fit into the typical capitalist mold. The web fits fairly well now that marketroids have utterly mangled it, but the Internet as a whole doesn't, and certainly nice resources that are offering free information don't.

      It would be more analgous to someone pinning up a "free food" flyer all over town for a soup kitchen and all sorts of people flooding the place whether they need to or not. On top of that, there are a lot of Slashdot readers here, myself soon to be included, who could easily mirror content to help divert some of the load. It wouldn't take that much extra effort to have people sign up to post mirrors of sites or to post a Google cache, etc. instead of just crushing some poor guy's webserver who just wanted to share a spiffy project he did with the world. Slashdotting some poor guy who did something neat just because nobody could be bothered to ask someone to set up a mirror is just plain rotten - ESPECIALLY when THEY'RE footing the bill and getting no return.

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  23. Re:I love it by zeroprime · · Score: 5, Funny

    Simple. We /. google.

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  24. Re:Slashdot Effect now by terradyn · · Score: 5, Funny

    Actually... The image they have on their page of the fractal google image is hosted off google australia... so in reality they are actually trying to slashdot google... Revenge is sweet... If one day google puts slashdot on the front page, would we have a grudge match between google and slashdot for world dominance? :)

  25. Re:Terminology by MatrixXForm · · Score: 5, Informative

    As a matter of fact, Paul already used a term for this in his page (check the second one he made after he was /.'d).

    He called it 'googleblatted'.

    In honor of Douglas Adams (and his infamous Bugblatter Beast of Traal), I propose this become the official term for being blatted by google ;)

  26. Re:I love it by ThaReetLad · · Score: 5, Funny

    I don't know about a trademark, but perhaps /. could patent it as a business method?

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  27. All customized Google logos... by shadowmatter · · Score: 5, Informative

    ... can be found here.

    I especially like the logo for Einstein's birthday (see March 14, 2003).

    - shadowmatter