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Spirit Grinds Adirondack, Looks for Iron

Quantum Jim writes "Space.com reported on Friday that Spirit used its Rock Abrasion Tool against a Martian rock dubbed Adirondack. Although the rover spent three hours grinding the rock, it was only skinned by about 2.7 mm. Scientists say this is due to an unexpected amount of resistance. Spirit is currently standing by for ground contollers to deactivate a safety feature so it can be repositioned"

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  1. Lack of interest? by tiled_rainbows · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Does the fact that, at the time of writing, the only post in this thread is about asci cow porn indicate that people are getting bored with all this Mars stuff?

    I hope not, but speaking personally, I'm finding it hard to get excited (about the rock-grinding, not the cow porn. I mean, that doesn't excite me either, I was just saying, in case anyone misinterpreted me).

    1. Re:Lack of interest? by stevesliva · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Boredom is inevitable, at least until the 3D IMAX movie comes out.

      The last time we were roving around on another planet and looking at rocks during Apollo 17, the world responded with a collective yawn. Better to bring your golf club like Alan Shepard. Now that's exciting! You can hit a one-handed seven iron like 1000 yards...

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  2. eh... by deglr6328 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    While Spirit's drilling of an igneous rock is kindof interesting, it's (IMHO) comparatively dull when contrasted with Opportunity's microscopic images of the sedimentary rock at the Meridiani location. The layers could have been formed by sedimentation at the bottom of a lake or by volcanic ash being succesively deposited by eruptions, we should know within a day or two when the APXS and Moessbauer spectrometer reveal the chemical makeup of the rocks.

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    1. Re:eh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      It's not quite that simple, because a clastic (fragmentary -- sand, pebbles, etc.) sedimentary rock derived from volcanic rock sources may differ in a chemical analysis only slightly from the original volcanic rock. It is a common problem to distinguish between a primary volcanic ash deposit and some kind of volcaniclastic sedimentary rock. There should be some chemical differences between them, but given the poor understanding of weathering processes on Mars (past or present), it is little tough to make predictions about what the chemical differences will be.

      The microscopic imager may be of greater use here, because it may resolve details of the bedding that will distinguish how the material was deposited. Some of the pictures already show some strange "ball-shaped", better-cemented structures that are eroding out of the bedrock and are accumulating on the surface. These could be pebbles (i.e. sedimentary) or they could be lapilli (volcanic structures formed by the sticking-together of ash particles). They could also be zones of cementation that developed long after deposition (e.g., concretions), in which case they do not say much about conditions at time of deposition. The latter two are more likely, because the "balls" are so spherical (most pebbles are not so perfectly equidimensional).

      Anyway, people seem to focus on the quantitative chemical analysis instruments as the ultimate tool, but they only give bulk compositions. Chemistry only takes you so far. The imaging is at least as important, and it is complementary to the other tools. For a good field geologist (which these rovers are supposed to emulate), a hand lens is more useful than an APXS or Moessbauer spectrometer would be, but it is great to have them all along.

    2. Re:eh... by deglr6328 · · Score: 3, Funny

      If you want to be excited by them, talk about their observable features (foliation, heterogenous grain size, polarization proerties), not about their genesis. We don't have the evidence to conclude they're sedimentary, much as we would like to do so.

      Yes, because when I think excitement, I think heterogeneous grain size polarization properties. :-) :)

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  3. Looking for the obvious by Pogue+Mahone · · Score: 4, Funny
    From the title:
    Spirit grinds Adirondack, looks for iron

    It's right there in the middle, between Ad and dack. Silly of it not to spot that right away ;-)

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  4. Re:saftey? by noselasd · · Score: 4, Informative

    No. When Spirit encountered problems(the flash memory), the software sat a flag.
    The flag indicated that the rover shouldn't drive anywhere regardless of what commands it gets.
    Now that the memory issues are hopefully fixed, the engineers forgot to clear the flag.
    Naturally Sprit wouldn't perform the commands to drive.

    More at http://www.spaceflightnow.com/mars/mera/040208rove rs.html

  5. Images. by noselasd · · Score: 5, Informative

    Those interrested in images from the rovers should perhaps bookmark
    Mars Exploration Rover Imagery.
    Nice and updated page with all the latest images.

  6. Missing raw images by Frans+Faase · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It seems NASA themselves are also getting lousy with putting all the raw images on the website. I get the feeling that some are missing. Are they affraid of others putting the color images together before they do themselves?

  7. Tools by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Spirit used its Rock Abrasion Tool against a Martian rock...

    ...and by attaching the special router bit, it should manage to build a lovely bird-bath by the end of the week.

  8. Microspheres by bluyonder · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I noticed that two of the micro images from Opportunity had overlapping coverage so I added them together into a red/blue anaglyph. Take a look here. (sorry Chris)

  9. Re:saftey? by Thing+1 · · Score: 2, Funny
    Still, reminiscient of Chernobyl, where the engineers wanted to "turn off a safety feature" to run a test.

    But I think it was just a poorly-worded submission.

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