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Microsoft Sits on Security Flaw for Six Months

pmf writes "Yet another critical vulnerability affecting Windows 2000/XP/2003 has been just announced by eEye. It is worthy to note, that it took Microsoft over 6 months to fix it. The bug affects ASN.1 library and is remotely exploitable through authentication subsystems (Kerberos, NTLMv2) and applications that make use of SSL certificates." The AP has an overview.

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  1. More to come... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://www.eeye.com/html/Research/Upcoming/index.h tml

  2. Alert the media... by LostCluster · · Score: 5, Informative

    Fox News Channel reported that there was a serious flaw in Windows during their 4pm ET news burst. Mainstream media as usual leaves out tech details on stories like these, but this is just an indication of how serious this flaw is.

  3. Fixed URL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
  4. Re:quote by big_groo · · Score: 5, Informative
  5. Third Recent Hit from Same ASN.1 Problem by billstewart · · Score: 5, Informative
    Yes. This isn't the third DIFFERENT bug in ASN.1 discovered recently - this is the third set of applications using the SAME REFERENCE IMPLEMENTATION of ASN.1 that was discovered to be vulnerable once it was discovered that the reference implementation was buggy. SNMP and SSL got hit, then just recently H.323 got hit, and I don't know what Microsoft parts just got hit (but it wouldn't surprise me if it's Netmeeting and maybe IE.)

    Why? Because ASN.1 is the Mos Eisley of bit-twiddly protocols, and "you'll never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy." AFAIK, there's nothing insecure about the protocol itself, but it's so ugly that everybody tends to reuse the reference implementation rather than rewriting their own. While that has some good aspects to it, some of the original reference implementation code wasn't always careful about checking bounds, etc., and eventually the University of Oulu folks did a proper study and found the holes.

    ASN.1 is one of these broad-scope protocols that tries to be everything to everybody, so it not only implements in a broad messy manner some things that were done much more simply and cleanly and debuggably in XDR, it also does some other things that are useful in a top-down hierarchical world controlled by all-knowing standards committees, and got itself included at the appropriate layers in other standards such as X.509 and H.323 (which are also big and ugly), and in SNMP (which is otherwise simple and clean and should have known better), and X.509 got itself embedded into SSL. (H.323 is the older VOIP standard, used by almost everybody even though they talk about using SIP Real Soon Now, and Microsoft Netmeeting is the popular free implementation.) One bad side of this is that very many security-critical applications have this buggy code at the bottom of them, though this is somewhat balanced by the good fact that it's so deeply buried that it's often hard to pass malicious data that far down the stack, though of course there's the ugly side which is that it's so ugly that it's hard for an interface module to verify that an ASN.1 object is malformed except by actually passing it to the vulnerable ASN.1 interpreter.

    Bit-twiddly space-saving data formats are almost always a Bad Idea. As they say, people who play with the bits deserve to be bitten. ASN.1 problems make many applications hard to write and harder to debug, but in the Open Source world, PGP has gone through several iterations of security-critical bugs because they were trying to steal bits, plus backwards compatibility issues make stealth versions difficult. The theory is that it's somehow more "efficient" to save a few bits of data storage or data transmission time by using variable-length formats, trading off the space for more CPU time and program space. This isn't totally off the wall, given 20 years of Moore's Law (which seems to have improved CPU and RAM price/performance by 10**5 - 10**6, disk by about 10**5, but smaller bandwidths by only 10**3-10**4), but the cost in programmer time, debugging time, and bug impact has been immense.

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    Bill Stewart
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  6. Re:And this is better than open source... how? by Pop69 · · Score: 5, Informative

    "Slackware (well, its alive, but barely)"

    New release in September, previous release only 6 months prior to that, a changelog in current at the ftp site that shows continuous update including 11 new/updated packages in the last 4 days ?

    Explain to me in what way you think this is "barely" alive ?