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GarageBand Update 1.0.1 Released

Apple has released GarageBand 1.0.1, which, according to the release notes, "clarifies specific alert dialogs regarding system performance." The update is a 21.5MB disc image. Yes, updating your alert dialogs takes 21.5MB.

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  1. Re:whaband? by luigi22_ · · Score: 0

    No, it's Apple's software for small bands that has a library of sounds that you can mix and mess with, instead of having to buy instruments. Pretty good deal for $99, IMO, except most ppl don't know about it.

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  2. Binary Diff by m0rph3us0 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Someone should let apple know about binary diffs.

  3. Re:whaband? by Fatmiko1 · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's only $49 man --- for the whole new iLife package. And it even comes free with a new Mac.

  4. Re:whaband? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sorry, so hard to tell nowadays.

  5. Red Jewel by Michael.Forman · · Score: 4, Interesting


    GarageBand does take quite a bit of horsepower. Previewing and rendering even these songs required me to turn my 1-GHz Titanium laptop's CPU performance to "full", when I'm on the go.

    GarageBand notifies the user of the system load by changing the color of a clear time-indicator jewel as it sweeps across the samples. It's a brilliant way to display the system load directly in a program. I speculate that the update affects not just the dialogues but also the subsystem which monitors and displays the CPU usage. (Hey, now I'm making up news just like CNN does.)

    Michael

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    1. Re:Red Jewel by \\ · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I'll say it does, the fan on my powerbook starts about a minute after I've started Garageband.

      More fun, I have a Powerbook G4 with an 800 MHz processor, only about a year and a half old, but I think the hard drive is a 4200RPM. I get this error when I play a creation with four or five tracks for more than a few seconds.

    2. Re:Red Jewel by Goldfinger7400 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Soundtrack takes quite a lot of processor performance as well, I've managed to completely top out my Dual G5 applying a couple admittedly intensive filters on a single mono track. An alert box actually popped up to say something to the likes of "I'm givin' her all she's got Captain, she can't take much more of this!"

    3. Re:Red Jewel by MoneyT · · Score: 1

      It shoudl be a 4200 RPM, that's what Apple usualy puts in teh powerbooks unless you order it otherwise.

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    4. Re:Red Jewel by wimbor · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      Linux:Apple::VW:BMW :-)

    5. Re:Red Jewel by nicky_d · · Score: 1

      Hm. I don't know what Garageband is doing, especially - I haven't really used it much - but I get much better performance that this - on a 800mhz G3 iBook, no less - from Ableton Live 3, with several tracks and all manner of VST effects. Now, that is a much more expensive product, granted. But you can get the cut-down version, Steinberg Remix, for a little less that iLife (but without iPhoto, iMovie etc., of course).

      Not to knock iLife, which I think is wonderful. But Garageband doesn't exhibit the performance I'd expect, based on my use of Remix and Live. Still, it's easy to use and interacts well with the other iApps, so I guess it's a case of the right tool for the job. I'd undoubtedly put my dad on Garageband as opposed to Remix, for example. I guess Garageband is to me what iMovie is to someone who has Final Cut - that doesn't make it any worse an application...

    6. Re:Red Jewel by BorgCopyeditor · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I don't have Garage Band, or a Powerbook for that matter, but you aren't by chance recording all your tracks in 32-bit/192KHz or something crazy like that, are you? Audiophile hype aside, real recording engineers will likely tell you that that super-fast sampling rates are unnecessary. And CD audio is only 16/44. Anyway, my $.02.

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    7. Re:Red Jewel by \\ · · Score: 1

      No, of course not.. and this is just to play around with the samples that came with the software, no recording or conversion of anything.

    8. Re:Red Jewel by wimbor · · Score: 1

      C'mon man... I was just kidding... Do you really need to mod this down... Sigh...

    9. Re:Red Jewel by Trejkaz · · Score: 1

      Is the source code to VW available? 8-|

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  6. The updates by Hungus · · Score: 5, Informative

    Being as I run server and Garage band wont install on server I have to manually update my installations via pacifist. The disadvantage as it can be a pain to update things, the advantage is that I get to see exactly what is being updated.

    In this case it is all the spplication itself. The original Garage band.app was 53.3MB the replacement app is 42MB.
    The AECore framework drops from 1.5MB to 1.4MB
    DfSearchEngine Wrapper Framework is almost halved in size from 360KB to 195.1KB
    LoopCore shrinks from 1.1MB to 868.1KB
    Where the largets difference is in the application resources ( button images and controls and their ilk as well as localization files) It drops from 39.1MB to 27.9MB.

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    1. Re:The updates by Roofus · · Score: 1

      Wait, so in order for GarageBand to lose several megabytes of excess code, we have to download a 21 meg file?

      I love Apple!

  7. Limited MIDI Drivers by gryphokk · · Score: 4, Informative

    Obligatory on-topic observation:

    On the old 400 mhz Cube, performance is so sluggish as to be confusing. Simple "Stop" and "Home" keyboard commands are slow to be recognized. On the bright side, it has the least latency of any system i've tried to multi-track with. I have at least achieved proof of concept (yes that's me, guitar, bass & 2 vox)

    (non-original material and obvious copyright violation, but it's an Apple-friendly artist, sosumi).

    Now my real gripe:

    i finally got around to tyring out connecting the trusty old Korg M1, the original MIDI pack mule. It turns out that GarageBand has a very short list (20) of compatible MIDI interfaces, all high-end numbers from the likes of MOTU and DigiDesign.

    But sadly, my Mark of the Unicorn Fastlane (less than two years old) was not listed in the recognized list of MIDI interfaces.

    Since the Cube chokes up at about 6 voices of audio data, that's gonna be my limit. Once again, to play with Apple, you not only have to have the latest Apple gear, you have to keep up with the latest gear in all other related fields too. I understand needing a new computer every 4-5 years, and this is a 10-year old synth, but without sinking what looks like another 300-500 on an up-to-date MIDI converter, (or half that on a USB MIDI keyboard), I'm out of the MIDI input/ouptut game.

    The thing is, I though that MIDI was a standard. I didn't realize it had layers that were already obsolete. OK, I understand GBis cheap software designed to sell computers, but as a professional musician with professional gear, I was very disappointed realize it's taking another round of hardware for my full potential as a creative musical genius to be recognized.

    And, to those who say "If you're professional musician, why don't you use professional software," well, buy my wife's ebook and may be I can!

    -_-_-_-_-_-_-_

    Karma whoring meter: 4 links, 2 of which are brand new original content, never before seen on /.

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    1. Re:Limited MIDI Drivers by pldms · · Score: 5, Informative

      But sadly, my Mark of the Unicorn Fastlane [motu.com] (less than two years old) was not listed in the recognized list of MIDI interfaces.

      Silly question, but have you installed the USB MIDI OS X drivers from MOTU? My USB MIDI interface isn't listed by Apple, but it works with drivers supplied by Yamaha (in my case).

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    2. Re:Limited MIDI Drivers by gryphokk · · Score: 1

      Doh! (smacks forehead)

      No, but I'll try that as soon as I get home tonight and advise on results. Thanx, pldms.

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    3. Re:Limited MIDI Drivers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apple's list of "supported" MIDI keyboards and interfaces is woefully incomplete. They do a disservice to users by implying these are the only devices that will work in GarageBand, which in the case of MIDI means just about any MIDI keyboard ever made.

      I have the MOTU Fastlane, it works just fine--and neither of my MIDI keyboards (Roland Juno2, Yamaha P80) are listed, but of course they just work. It's just friggin' MIDI...

    4. Re:Limited MIDI Drivers by easter1916 · · Score: 1
      buy my wife's ebook
      Well, I might, but the blurb on the linked page was enough to turn me off. It sounds dreadful. Why would your wife's autobiography interest me? I ask not to be insulting, it's an honest question.
    5. Re:Limited MIDI Drivers by gryphokk · · Score: 1

      No insult perceived, easter. Thank you for looking!

      Her life, her childhood, was itself dreadful. Writing this book was very therapeutic for her, and it has been appreciated by many who have had a similar abusive childhood.

      It is certainly not for everyone, and it is not light entertainment. But there is a segment of the population that can benefit from knowing that others share their pain. This is why we encourage readers to share freely with those who they feel would benefit from the lessons.

      If you would not be interested in a story of abuse and recovery, then you have read the blurb well. It is advertising copy, aimed at those who can empathize with her history.

      Karma: vanished in a puff of offtopic smoke.

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    6. Re:Limited MIDI Drivers by localman · · Score: 2, Informative

      I picked up the Tascam USS-122 and it works like a charm. It was only $200 and it has two audio inputs, outputs, MIDI in and out, and direct monitoring with headphones. The unit plus Garageband replaced a whole rack of old studio equiptment I had. And it sounds better to boot.

      Cheers.

    7. Re:Limited MIDI Drivers by blackmonday · · Score: 4, Informative

      "GarageBand has a very short list (20) [apple.com] of compatible MIDI interfaces, all high-end numbers from the likes of MOTU and DigiDesign."

      Actually it supports the cheapest (but still great) usb midi interface around, the midiman (m-audio) Midisport Uno. Its $39 with no haggling at Guitar Center.

    8. Re:Limited MIDI Drivers by easter1916 · · Score: 1

      Well, that's something we have in common -- or rather, that our wives have in common. I'll email her the link, she might well be interested. Thanks for the information.

    9. Re:Limited MIDI Drivers by pmdboi · · Score: 2, Informative

      I have a Fastlane MIDI-USB interface, and it works perfectly for me. There is a strange quirk with the setup process, though; for some reason, the Clockworks program that gets installed with the drivers (mentioned by another poster, found here) doesn't actually recognize the MIDI interface (it'll complain about no devices being connected). Audio MIDI Setup, found in /Applications/Utilities, sees it just fine, though, and you can set it up from there (create a new keyboard device and connect it to the corresponding ports on the icon).

    10. Re:Limited MIDI Drivers by gryphokk · · Score: 1

      Well, pldms has set me straight on the matter. i DL'ed the proper ClockWorks driver from MOTU, configured it through applications/utilities/Audio MIDI Setup, and now I have MIDI input.

      At this point, I see no way, however, to reroute the signal back to the MIDI keyboard. Is that an inherent limitation in Garage Band? I find no channel or voice selection other than GB's Software Instruments.

      Does it use MIDI for input only? That's still gonna leave me in a hurt with the old Cube -- more than 4 voices and it chokes up. I really was hoping to continue to use the M! and MT-32 for sound source/virutual tracks, and relieve the strain on my CPU until the final mix.

      What about it -- is GB MIDI one way only?

      (Please note that I have not pursued it in great detail, being in a hurry to respond to this thread.)

      Thanx, P!

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    11. Re:Limited MIDI Drivers by alumaBook17 · · Score: 1

      "... It turns out that GarageBand has a very short list (20) [apple.com] of compatible MIDI interfaces...."

      Since either the Edirol PCR-50 or PCR-80 are simply larger versions of the PCR-30, it would seem logical that these are compatible, despite Apple's not listing them.

  8. Note to Domini by 2nd+Post! · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Everything, and everyone, is biased.

    If you want life to reflect *your* biases... start your own site :)

  9. Re:Not really news. by gryphokk · · Score: 1

    I'm interested.

    And it's not in SWUpdate -- not yet, anyway.

    And I do learn about MW Office updates here.

    If we're too lame for ya, find an ubergeek site; some of us eggs can still learn.

    Of is there a rule that I missed that says /. is about OS's, not apps?

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  10. Re:Wooops! by Lars+T. · · Score: 3, Funny

    I can see it coming, the GarageBang pr0n series with music made in GarageBand.

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  11. Re:Not really news. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You missed the rule: "News that matters"

  12. Re:will it work on pirated copies? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not to defend piracy, however. a) If someone can't afford to buy software, where is the 'loss'(In any regard) if he or she does pirate software for non-commercial uses? b) ...is such an onslaught of abuse really neccesary? I know I know, don't feed the trolls. I hold a firm view that commercial pirates are the only ones deserved of attack.

  13. Re:will it work on pirated copies? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    wow, i got a -1. troll? as one of the repliers mentioned, i can't afford garageband right now... i'm sure whoever gave me a -1 has absolutely no pirated music or software or porn...

  14. It's a good deal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ah, the error messages are crazy... every time I wake my computer GarageBand complains that some error number 7202 or something happened. Of course, it just lost the connection to my USB audio device (if you don't have an audio input, get the Griffin iMic - cheaper than GarageBand and WAY higher quality than the Mac's on-board audio).

    I hope nobody here bought the Monster Cable adapter though. $20 for a 1/4" mono to 1/8" stereo adapter? What crap! "Nitrogen-injected dielectrics and Double Helix construction for the best possible connection." I bet that the THD of a normal adapter is so low you would have extreme difficulty measuring it. Assuming, of course, you're not making the connection in nitric acid (in which case I'd heartily recommend gold plating).

    1. Re:It's a good deal by johnjosephbachir · · Score: 1

      in general monster cable rips you off. their high end stuff is pretty decent, but it's still way too expensive. the non-garbage cable market is unfortunately very small and dominated by Monster, and then a little bit by acoustic research. (as in, that's what you will find in best buy, other than the GE offerings which are comparable to radio shack).

      for well built cables check out cobalt cable. They make solid cables from good materials and have great service. don't get the speaker cables though, word on the street is it's just 10 guage zip (which is actually a very good choice for speaker cables. and they also terminate and package them extremely well. but still it's much cheaper to get 10 or 12 guage zip in bulk from home depot.)

      and here's another recommendation for griffin products. i LOVE my PowerWave. i have 30 feet of usb cord going across my room to my powerwave, which has a half meter rca cable (from cobalt cable) going into my receiver, through which i play my 192kbit mp4s. a low cost solution to get sound across a room without losing any quality (like you would with 30 feet of analog cable coming out of the computer's noise ridden d/a converter).

  15. Re:will it work on pirated copies? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Yeah I was just trolling you... no offense, you've just gotta cut loose once in a while for fun. But you're just trying to justify stealing software. Yes, it's wrong. 50 bucks isn't a lot to ask for, and if you can't afford it then you should accept the fact that it's simply a luxury that you cannot afford. Yes, Apple does lose money. Let's say you love the program and a week down the road you get 50 grand in the lotto. If you didn't have enough self-restraint to come out and say "Well I don't have enough money for this, so I simply can't have it" then how could you possibly say "I've got the money now, I've also got the actual program, but I'm going to pay for it anyhow!"

    Be careful here, because you ARE defending piracy. I believe in warez for testing stuff out to see if it's garbage or not (likewise for downloading movies), but if you keep it even after you figure out that you like it having NO intention to pay for it down the road then yes, you are in the wrong.

  16. Re:whaband? by geoffspear · · Score: 1
    No, he wasn't.

    And that site actually does have a trademark for "GarageBand". Apple trademarked "Garage Band", which is not the name of their product. But I'm guessing they're not too worried about some indy music website putting together enough funding to sue them successfully.

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  17. Re:whaband? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well NO shit, there's a garageband.com??? What a fucking revelation!

    Did you also know that there's a website at www.goat.cx that features a fag (such as yourself) spreading open his gaping asshole?

    (Score:-1, Fucking Obvious)

  18. I'm just wondering when they'll fix the bug... by bennomatic · · Score: 4, Funny

    that makes my voice sound screechy and out of tune!

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    1. Re:I'm just wondering when they'll fix the bug... by berniecase · · Score: 1

      Be on the lookout for Record Producer 1.0 in next year's installment of iLife.

  19. Re:whaband? by demonic-halo · · Score: 2, Informative

    Apple licenced the name from Garageband.com

  20. Sample Songs on the Tascam US-122 by localman · · Score: 1

    Whoops -- only one "S" :) If you want a demo of the sound quality, here are a couple songs I recently recorded:

    Talk To You

    Why We Are

    Pardon my lousy singing -- but it shows just how cheaply you can get hi-fi these days.

    Cheers.

  21. Re:will it work on pirated copies?--Give to Get by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Although you're regarded as a troll for asking, and I'll be regarded as one as for replying, you bring up an interesting point.

    I expect that the upgrade will work just fine on a pirated copy because of Apple's general philosophy about piracy. Sure Apple makes an effort to lock down their expensive pro-level apps (Final Cut Pro, Logic, Shake)--it would be financially irresponsible not to--but they tend to be exceptionally liberal about much of their software (operating systems, consumer-level apps). Apple tends to fundamentally trust their customers to do the right thing and in the end I believe it has paid off for them.

    I've pirated Apple software in the past when I was a broke newbie and have gotten so thoroughly hooked on it--and have made such a great living using it--that I now happily pay for all their software and have sold hundreds of Apple hardware and software products to my friends, family and employers over the years.

    It's the old "Give to Get" sales approach (look up Fuller Brush company for an ancient example)--they give you something for free so you're more likely to buy from them in the future.

    Not a bad strategy in the long run. It's earned Apple a fanatical brand loyalty that's the envy of the industry.

  22. Re:The updates (install iLife '04 on Server) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually, there's a much simpler way you can discover by hunting down the install scripts; move the file /System/Library/CoreServices/SystemVersion.plist
    out of the CoreServices folder before you start the installation, and move it back after the installation is complete. Works like a charm.

  23. It is both an mp3 site and apple software by kiwipeso · · Score: 1, Informative

    Apple paid GarageBand.com so that Apple could call it's software GarageBand

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  24. Re:will it work on pirated copies?--Give to Get by kiwipeso · · Score: 0

    Actually I downloaded Panther off Bit Torrent and it doesn't work, but GarageBand does. What I would appreciate is an easier way to find loops.
    I can't find any of my extra loops except for the weird Access Virus loops.

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  25. Re:will it work on pirated copies? by johnjosephbachir · · Score: 2, Interesting

    there is also the argument, hmm where i have i heard it before, that restricting distribution of software is unethical because it restricts access to information, truth, tools, et cetera. it currently is a luxury, and i (and perhaps other slashdot readers) think that is a bad thing. digital divide==bad. luxury items should be things that people don't need, but want. if i want to have a leather couch i have to work a little harder to make the money to afford it instead of a cloth one. if i want a big useless rock on my finger, i have to work even more. but if i want tools to use to express ideas and create things, an easy way to access information, or even a decent meal, i shouldn't have to do anything exceptional to get it. of course some might say my argument is wishy washy since it hinges on concepts like easy and exceptional, but i assert that these terms have widely consistent definitions.

    the example you gave is ridiculous (btw the only reason i am using such harsh words is because you are anonymous, so i am insulting your argument and not you :), because you used an exceptional case, where someone has a lot more money in the short term than they did when they made the decision to pirate.

    most of the time, people have a pretty good idea of what their budgets are going to be in the short and medium term, and also their needs and wants in that same time frame. so it's not sensible to not pirate something because you might win the lottery next week!

    however it is sensible to not pirate because maybe you could eat out a little less often or buy one less drink when you go out, and save up for that software you need.

    it's all about where to draw the line i guess. well, with most things it's all about where to draw the line, but in this case i think we need to migrate to a different value structure, first with music and movies, and then with software. and i don't just mean, do it like redhat, sell service, although that will probably be a significant part of intermediate steps. but the fact of the matter is, a copy of software is not a can of beans. no one is completely and intuitively comfortably with our current notion of virtual, history(development cost)-aware value. it's so easy to copy, but it's illegal...... but we've all hear this before. i can't wait for The Future when we get to see what the new value models will be.