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Amazon.com Pierces Reviewer Anonymity

theodp writes "Amazon reviewers who anonymously posted book reviews or signed their critiques only as 'a reader from (fill in the city)' lost their anonymity this week when their identities were revealed on Amazon's site. Among those named were prominent authors who posted glowing five-star reviews of their own work. The weeklong glitch, which Amazon fixed after outed reviewers complained, provided a rare glimpse at how writers and readers are wielding the online reviews as a tool to promote or pan books when they think no one is watching. An Amazon spokeswoman told the NY Times the problem was 'an unfortunate error.'"

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  1. Re:You have to wonder.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    If Amazon.com is repeatedly stating that anonymity is guaranteed for book reviews, what the hell is the purpose of collecting full names from their creators?

    There's at least one technical explanation: if Amazon didn't link each review with a reviewer, it would be harder to prevent someone from filling out a hundred reviews of the same title to skewer the average rating.

    You may have come across this if you reviewed the same thing twice: you would have received an error telling you that you've already reviewed the item and can't do it again, even if you reviewed it anonymously.

  2. Re:Hmm... by greenrd · · Score: 4, Informative
    It means "fake grassroots". Kind of obvious when you think about it. As to wear it comes from, I don't know, but it used to be a fairly common term of abuse on Slashdot in the early years. :)

  3. Wikipedia by turnstyle · · Score: 4, Informative
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  4. Something like what sony did? by whiteranger99x · · Score: 5, Informative

    If I recall correctly, Sony got nailed for using a fake critic by the name of David Manning to doctor favorable reviews for their just released movies

    It would not surprise me if authors were INDEED promoting their own works courtesy of public forums like amazon and the like.

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  5. Re:Software by ted_nugent · · Score: 5, Informative
    Blatant and fully disclosed plugs I can tolerate. But out and out deception is reprehensible.

    It's ironic that this request comes from an executive officer of a security company. OTOH, their credibility had already bugun to slide since they changed their focus to litigation and Microsoft press releases.

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  6. Re:Hmm... by orthogonal · · Score: 5, Informative

    OOC, where does that phrase (astroturfing) come from? I don't think I've seen it before.

    Astroturf is the fake grass used in (American) football stadiums -- especially those with roofs -- in place of real grass, because it's more durable and doesn't require sunlight or watering.

    A "grass root" action or campaign is one that is started spontaneously, and is largely sustained, by private persons, as opposed to politicians, corporations, or public relations firms; a "grass roots" campaign comes about because of the popular feelings of some mass of people, as opposed to being the creature of the powerful.

    "Astroturfing", then, is a campaign crafted by politicians or spin-doctors, but in such a way as to appear it's the result of popular feeling rather than crafty manipulation by political or corporate elites.

    Astroturfing to one degree or another is increasing common in American politics (and business). In reaction to the (often correct) cynicism that politicians and corporations are not acting in the best interests of "the people", an astroturfing campaign attempts to gain legitimacy by appearing to spring forth spontaneously from "the people", like Athena from Zeus's forehead; when it's discovered that the campaign was meticulously crafted and manipulated by the same spin-meisters that public has learned to distrust, the astroiturfing adds to the very cynicism it was designed to circumvent.

    One technique of an astroturfing campaign is to induce a number of its supporters to write email, letters to the editor, or in this case, Amazon reviews, in support of the campaign's goals. The campaign instructs the supporters on what to say, how to say it, and where send it, and above all, to make it appear that their indignation, appreciation, joy, or hate is entirely spontaneous and independent -- and thus "real" -- and not at all the product of an orchestrated campaign.

    The idea is that the public at large will see lots of apparently "uncoordinated", "spontaneous" and "objective" viewpoints all in line with that of the astroturfing campaign, and will come to believe that if so many of their fellow "citizens next door" believe something, they should believe it too, for all those "independent" viewpoints couldn't have been faked.

    With the advent of the internet, it's become even easier to whip up an astroturfing campaign, as the cost of emailing -- especially of emailing a pre-written, sign your name at the bottom email -- is so low. Anonymity, as in the Amazin case, makes it even easier, as one person can play the role of a whole group of like-minded people.

  7. John Rechy?! by mec · · Score: 4, Informative

    The same John Rechy who wrote "City of Night" and "The Sexual Outlaw" ?

    I guess I shouldn't be surprised that he was hustling reviews on Amazon the same way that his characters hustled and tricked their ways through his books.

    Rechy's books disturbed me, which is a good quality in a book. How can I describe them for a Slashdot crowd? Start with William Gibson or Bruce Sterling; subtrace all the "cyber" part of "cyberpunk"; and replace it with gay sex. LOTS of gay sex.

  8. Re:You have to wonder.. by Krunch · · Score: 5, Informative

    When you need a temporary adress for registration, other useful solutions are Mailinator and TrashMail.

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  9. Just stop removing "bad" reviews by MoggyMania · · Score: 5, Informative

    A far nastier problem I've experienced firsthand on Amazon.com is the tendency of authors to go through the reviews and demand all of the "bad" ones be removed. Amazon.com's policy is to remove negative reviews upon author or publisher request, even if the points stated by the critic were clearly logical, reasonable, and within the guidelines. I know quite a few other people that have had it happen to as well.

    The really disturbing thing in the case of the book I was reviewing was that it advocated emotionally & physically abusing adults with disabilities. Regardless of who pointed it out, the author would have any review that wasn't sterling removed, so the book still has a great rating. Most of the ones remaining are either mindless "I know the author and she's really nice" comments that have nothing to do with the book itself, or testimonials from other wives/husbands that feel it's cool to throw things at, scream in the face of, and emotionally one's disabled partner into feeling deeply inferior. VERY disturbing.

  10. Re:Easy solution: the old system? by eggboard · · Score: 4, Informative

    I used to run the review system at Amazon (96-97) and we did get way too many fake author reviews and interviews, even back in 1997.

    I had put in place a system later dropped that had the reviews checked by human beings for sense (not content) before they went live. Of course, with thousands of reviews posted each day, that became untenable.

    There's no good way to build a system that can't be gamed.

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  11. Re:Hmm... by FattMattP · · Score: 4, Informative

    That's a great write up. You should add it to Wikipedia's Astroturfing entry.

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  12. Re:The review by John Rechy by smart.id · · Score: 4, Informative

    Didn't the story say that he was a reader from Chicago? If so, THIS is the review:

    A reader's feast, October 19, 2003
    Reviewer: A reader from Chicago, IL
    This book is moving, hilarious, sad, laugh-aloud funny, touching, and very, very sexy--a feast. The characters are all memorable, Lyle the cowboy who never rode a horse; his Miss America mom--and the minor characters! A finicky female porn entrepreneur and her detested husband and their nasty director, Za-Z La Grande; a "poster" woman whose image is all over the city, "the sexy chicano." The names of the minor characters will knock you over--real names only slightly disguised. Also "Mr. Fielding," an eccentric gambler and the corrupt evangelists, who are vile and at the same time hilarious. Lyle, like Tom Jones, is in and out of unique situations--accidentally in a magician's show, at the playboy mansion "saving" Miss Universe," confronting an exploiter of Star Maps sellers, teenagers--(...) There are poigant moments, with Sister Matilda, gospel singer, and Clarita, the Mexican housekeeper. The song Amazing Grace recurs, and the ending is unforgettable, starting with an Academy Awards ceremony you won't forget.


    And yes, funny joke there, but Amazon probably doesn't let you rate your own reviews (I could be wrong, though.)

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  13. Author and Publisher Abuse by smack.addict · · Score: 4, Informative
    When my book, Java Database Best Practices first came out, before anyone could possibly have read it, someone posted a recommendation instead for another, competing book that had not yet been published.

    In spite of this obvious attempt to mislead readers, Amazon chose to do nothing. That recommendation is still up there!