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India Woos Medical Tourists

aspelling writes "It's not only quality hardware and software that can be done in India for a fraction of the cost. BBC reports that India has a generation of world class doctors capable of doing joint replacement, heart, neuro and cancer surgery at their state-of-the-art facilities. Don't be surprised when your physician prescribes you a trip to Bombay. Indian officials are working hard with HMOs around the world to make this dream come true."

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  1. HMO? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What is an HMO? Isn't it a facet of the American private health care system? There are no HMOs in the country where I live (Canada).

  2. A few questions... by czcxmag · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you needed open heart surgery or a liver transplant, would you still go to India to do it because "it costs less money"?

    Are doctors in India "certified" by the government? do they get inspected regularly for standards of practice?

    I don't want to bash Indian doctors or criticise anyone's decision to valuate medical work purely based on its cost; I just feel the readers should be informed of the potential risks associated with getting major treatments done in other countries just because of financial reasons.

    What if I pick a bad doctor and he messes me up or whatever? Who can I sue? In all likelihood hed be gone after I left.

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  3. There isn't much that can't be outsourced by alien_blueprint · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Just yesterday a friend of mine with an degree in economics was talking about the push in that field to move much of the work offshore.

    This applies to any profession - there is no "safe" field. Look at law - despite what television tells you, most people with law degrees aren't engaging in clever courtroom rhetoric all day, or even at all, but doing "back office" stuff. This, too, can be offshored in time.

    I'm not saying that this is a good or a bad thing, or that I have any answers, but it *is* obvious that saying "just get a new career in accounting/law/marketing/whatever!" is naive because there is no strictly "safe" field to start with, and never will be.

    1. Re:There isn't much that can't be outsourced by ChaoticChaos · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "I'm not saying that this is a good or a bad thing"

      Please. I'll say it for you - this is a very bad thing. I saw an economist on Lou Dobb's Friday program saying that with all the Tech and Services jobs going overseas, "...if our future isn't in Tech and Services, I don't know what it is in".

      Agreed.

      If these trade agreements aren't revisited and revisited damn soon, it IS going to plunge the company into a serious recession or depression. We're shipping an ungodly amount of our jobs, wealth, and future everywhere else but the USA.

      I'm sure it's easy for all of these other countries to have grossly better wages when they are: barely developed, have no labor laws, no environmental laws, etc.

      Kerry for President! Bush isn't doing a damn thing about it and his chief economic adviser things offshoring is a wonderful thing!

    2. Re:There isn't much that can't be outsourced by ChaoticChaos · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "Do you honestly think that Kerry will be able to do anything about this?"

      Yes.

      "You're talking about fighting economic forces here. The only way to prevent this current outsourcing trend is to become totally isolationist, which two world wars tell us is totally wrong."

      Who said anything about being isolationist? I'm FOR trade. It's a wonderful thing. The problem with NAFTA and the WTO is that we gave away the farm. We didn't insist that other countries rise to our level (i.e., with labor standards, environmental standards, etc.) and as a result, we're grossly mismatched. You can't expect any part of our economy to compete with another country that doesn't have similar regulation. Just not going to happen.

      Kerry, or someone, needs to revisit the trade agreements until they are **fair**.

      "No, America's true skill is not in tech or medicine, but in creativity. Just wait. You'll see a new revolution in something, maybe nanotech, maybe biotech (here's hoping we can get cloning regulated, not banned), maybe something completely different, that will propel us into the future."

      Wow! The logic here just escapes me. We can offshore tech, legal jobs, radiology, but it's not going to be possible to offshort "...nanotech, maybe biotech"??? You're kidding yourself.

      "In the mean time, we're rich enough. Let the rest of the world have some for a change".

      The issue isn't "some", it's going to be "most". What part of the economy can we be competitive in with the current trade agreements. We have a 500 ***billion*** trade deficit right now!!!!!!

      "Hell, our unemployment rate currently is less than the average unemployment rate of the 1990's. We're doing OK."

      We are? The unemployment figures do not take into account workers who are discouraged and stopped looking. It takes 150,000 new jobs each month just to keep up with population growth. We've *yet* to have one month over 150,000 in the last 3 years.

      "I'm just as bitter about not being able to skim inflated wages anymore as you are, but soon, we'll start to at least make something fair. It'll just take some time. No matter who gets elected President."

      Rotsa luck dude. This isn't about a high paying job, it's about a future period.
      - We have yet to have one month in 3 years with over 150,000 new jobs just to keep up with population growth.
      - We have a 500 billion dollar trade deficit. 500 billion dollars!
      - Lou Dobb's program on Friday night showed a graph indicating that in Tech trade, we used to have a 30 billion dollar surplus. Now we have a 30 billion dollar deficit.

  4. Re:Lack of quality? or more of it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    While, as an Indian, I am flattered by your opinion, your argument is flawed. I think that the Indians you've met are good at the math and sciences because their parents pushed their children to become engineers.

    Furthermore, almost every culture that has existed for thousands of years has had a few great scientists. Are the British inherently any smarter because Issac Newton was British, or the French any wiser because Pascal was French? Obviously not!

  5. No way... by John+Seminal · · Score: 4, Insightful
    There is no way in hell that any HMO or insurance company should ever be allowed to tell a patient "we're gonna fly you half way around the world for this surgery". The HMO's are horrible as it is. They get doctors in their network and supply a doctors practice with nearly all his patients. Then they tell the doctor if any surgery, or very expensive treatment has to be performed, they must first call the HMO for approval first. Guess who makes the approval? Not a doctor at the HMO but a buisness manager. They even have incentives at HMO's to provide bonuses for those buisness managers that keep costs the lowest, and they fire the ones who spends more. If the doctor prescribes the treatment anyways, they can get dropped from the HMO and lose all the patients the insurance company provided.

    Laws need to be passed to protect the people. These insurance companies are evil. We would be better off with a state run health insurance system than the hyena's that currently run the insurance companies.

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  6. Re:fraction of cost... by puck01 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ya, I work 80 hours a week (legally that is, in reality I work much more than that but I'm technically limited to 80 hours per week), owe twice as much in student loans as the cost of my condo (condo about $82,000, you do the math) and make 40,000 a year. Sure I'm a resisdent still, but as a general practitioner I'll still work at least 60 hours a week, and oh ya, by the way, I won't be finished with training until I'm 30. I've sacrificed many of my hobbies and pleasures in life to do this. I spend much of my spare time reading to keep up with the lately studies. Do I complain about this? NO. Absolutely not, this is what I choose to do, but comments like this really get on my nerves.

    Also, I have to wonder what the legal environment is like in India? How much do these docs pay for legal insurance. Since some surgeons in the US can pay over 100,000/yr in insurance, I would suspect that might account for much of the cost.

  7. Re:oh great, first they outsource my job, then thi by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 5, Insightful

    People in the US sell their blood for personal profit. Or their babies. Or hire out their wombs. Selling parts of yourself for financial gain isn't exclusive to India, or even the developing world in general: it happens in the developed world too.

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  8. Maybe... but... how will they get to India? by ivi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Which airlines will carry a person,
    who tells them - up-front - that
    they have a heart or other serious
    medical condition?

    (And any insurance may not cover
    them if they don't tell them...)