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HMS Beagle (Possibly) Found

With the Beagle 2 lander lost on Mars, good Beagle-related news has been lacking, until now. British paper The Observer is reporting that the original HMS Beagle, the ship Darwin travelled on during his famous voyage, may have been found. Marine archeologists believe they have found the ship, which has been resting at the bottom of some Essex marshes for the last century.

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  1. Re:And this means what? by mikerich · · Score: 3, Interesting
    As a Christian, I am a fan of the theory of evolution. I find that, in general, the history of the world that scientists are uncovering supports the general theme of the book of Genisis, if not the detail. (First light, then atmosphere, then land then aquatic life, then land life, then humans etc.)

    I think you've misread Genesis.

    Genesis I (v.11-24) states quite clearly that God created plants on the land on the third day, didn't get round to doing the Sun until the fourth day, created the swimming and flying creatures on the fifth and left the land animals (including Man) until the sixth.

    Which is nothing like the order science has determined. So you have to say that Genesis managed neither the precise order nor the general themes correctly.

    Of course that's just one of the Creation stories in Genesis. There is another in Genesis 2 which places Man as the first living thing followed by plants, animals and finally Woman.

    At least one of the stories has to be wrong.

    Best wishes,
    Mike.

  2. Re:They don't conflict... by Short+Circuit · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've thought of all three of those possibilities. To be honest, it doesn't bother me that I still believe any and all of them. (sic)

    And besides; that's my kind of humor. ;)

  3. Re:They don't conflict... by Tassach · · Score: 5, Interesting
    God is an asshole, or at least has a really sick sense of humor
    Reading the Old Testament certianly leaves the non-believer with the impression that Yahweh has the attitudes and manners of a spoiled, sadistic child. Abraham & his son, Lot's wife, and Job (to name but a few) were all victims of his capricious and sadistic power games, and they were his loyal followers. Let's not even get into the genocide and torture inflicted by this "omnibenevolent" deity upon entire nations of his creations, nor the massacres and wholesale torture he encourages his followers to visit upon his disfavored creations.
    --
    Why is it that the proponents of "one nation under God" are so eager to get rid of "liberty and justice for all"?
  4. Re:Other famous Beagles in the news by orthogonal · · Score: 4, Interesting
    If you're going to do, it, do it right! There's a canonical form, which I'll demonstrate (it should be available at Wikipedia except some troll changed it; I'll fix it tonight) :

    Sad news ... Snoopy, dead at 54

    I just heard some sad news on talk radio - Comic strip beagle/World War I flying ace Snoopy was found dead in his doghouse this morning. There weren't any more details. I'm sure everyone in the Slashdot community will miss him - even if you didn't enjoy his work, there's no denying his contributions to popular culture. Truly an American icon.


    When I die, this is how I want to be memorialized.
  5. Darwinism by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 2, Interesting


    People in our time lose sight of how radical a change Darwinism brought to the philisophical outlook of man. It was one of the great sea changes in modern thought.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwinism

  6. Re:Too bad... by rawshark · · Score: 2, Interesting

    To quote my Wise and Eloquent Friend:

    "[it depends on whether you trust the scientists or the priests] and I would rather trust the scientists than the priests. They actually can work miracles, not just point to alleged past ones or promise future ones.

    "Are we still living in caves and wearing tin pans for protection? You can have fire by lighting a match, light by flipping a switch. You will never have to worry about dying from pneumonia and the plague, and if you catch those you'll go to a hospital and get some antibiotics and get better. Your mother did not have a 30% chance of dying in childbirth. You did not have a 70% of dying by the age of three. Your parents will live into their eighties and you will live into your nineties. This weekend you will travel a distance which once took months of perilous journey in a matter of hours, and you will do it by FLYING THROUGH THE AIR. These are all MIRACLES. Science has accomplished in 150 years what religion cannot in thousands of years. That is because Science recognizes its mistakes and learns from them instead of adapting a head in the sand mentality to them."

  7. Re:134 years to find by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    www.evilbible.com rocks. Here is a sampling of the sort of stuff that man is able to understand:

    They told the men of Benjamin who still needed wives, "Go and hide in the vineyards. When the women of Shiloh come out for their dances, rush out from the vineyards, and each of you can take one of them home to be your wife!

    or

    he LORD's people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.

    Long winded explanations of quantum mechanics wouldn't be as good at convincing people you are the one true rocking God!

  8. Re:They don't conflict... by DeusExLibris · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I know this is veering even further off topic, but...

    The behavior you refer to is attributed by biblical scholars to the polytheistic period of Judaism, where Yahweh Sabaoth was the god of war (think the plagues of Egypt and the exodus). This deity evolved into the one and only God, Yahweh, in post-Babylonian monotheism.

    You should read Karen Armstrong's excellent book, A History of God, for a complete historical account.