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Google's Bigger Index

WebGangsta writes "Google Inc. today announced it expanded the breadth of its web index to more than 6 billion items. This innovation represents a milestone for Internet users, enabling quick and easy access to the world's largest collection of online information."

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  1. Here's hoping by r_glen · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ... this will lead to an increase in the integrity of PageRank(TM), and vintage Google will return in all her glory.

    1. Re:Here's hoping by Destoo · · Score: 5, Interesting

      So it's not just me..

      First, the reindex that happened a few months ago removed all cross-reference with accents.
      (where google would find the same number of links for both the word and the unaccentuated word... right now: soupcon: 9,750 - soupcon: 88,500)

      Then, when searching for anything regarding ras error messages, I get 30 links from spammer and then the real stuff.
      Example: 711 error yields multiple links for similar pages...
      "Your one stop resource for all things error 711 remote access connection
      management related. ... error 711 remote access connection management. ... "

      Vintage Google.. in Net years, that's 15-16 months ago, right?

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  2. how many? by QuantumRiff · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How many of these 6 billion items are in the form of www.massivepopups.com/your_search_term.html

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  3. Heh by PaintyThePirate · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Anyone else find it funny that Google has around one item for every man woman and child on earth?

    1. Re:Heh by Eslyjah · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Well, we're a bit over 6 billion now. It's more like 6,348,951,839. Wait. Now it's 6,348,951,840. And now 6,348,951,841...

  4. Google thumping its chest? by LostCluster · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What's going on here? This isn't like Google to put out a press release just because the index size just past a round number.

    Is Google setting up for its IPO and therefore becoming less like the Google we know and love?

  5. It's only a matter of time.. by pacsman · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm waiting for them to come up with a sound search and an image search that look at the subject of the image rather than its file name. After that I'm not sure what's left. Maybe comparative searches for sounds and images, where you can upload a source to compare? Who knows! I hope these guys don't follow the normal path of spiralling into inconsequence after they go public.

  6. What I want to know... by Bob+McCown · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...is how to get rid of those pseudo-pages in Google. The ones with names like "thing_that_youre_searching_for.html", and all they are is either a page of dead links to crap on ebay, or a "Hey, we do great searches for your stuff".

  7. is it just me? by trans_err · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Google has become so flooded with internet crap that it's quickly losing its status as a useful tool. Google needs some form of moderation to move out the superfulous blog entries and advertising fronts so it can someday become as useful as it always was.

  8. Still nok by mirko · · Score: 5, Interesting
    • I own a forum on top of which I put a robots.txt file which is supposed to STOP any spider from visiting it.
      I however find my post while googling for words they also contain.
      How can one explicitely forbid Google from indexing a site ?
    • My wife developed 2 web sites which never got indexed even though we submitted these using Google's interface. As they might not be linked, I suppose Google just considers that if nobody mentions a site, then the site should not be registered as existing ? Do Google think it actually is the web ?

    Sorry, I'll keep using Altavista.
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  9. No Good... by Mork29 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I don't want MORE things to search for, I want it to return more relavant searches. I know that the information I usually search for is out there, the problem is that there's so much chafe out there, that I can't find what I want. No matter what I search for, there are at least 2 or 3 responses related to porn. I understand that their are alot of variety of porn out there, but common... Search engines are getting even worse by throwing in search results that are hardly relevant, just because they got paid money by the company. I would even be willing to pay for a "google membership" if they eliminated the advertisers mixed in with search results and maybe gave me another special feature or 2. I'd want a search engine that returns just 1 or 2 good results over one that returns 5 good results mixed in with 200 bad ones.

  10. Sort out their indexing problems first by jolyonr · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I do hope they manage to sort out their recent indexing problems first. For many searches altavista is now showing far better relevent result searches than google - since their attempted cull of 'spam' sites last december which kind of backfired. They have improved things this year, but the quality of their search results is not as good as it was last year. Now, they need to figure out how to get rid of all the useless sites that are just shopping directories full of espotting URLs and similar and with no real content. Funnily enough, their anti-spamsite code seemed to actually promote these up the rankings on many search terms, while penalising many sites containing genuine content.

    Many people said that Google were using deliberate tactics to encourage small e-commerce websites to spend more on adwords, but I believe this wasn't deliberate - their index is so big that they simply can't tell what the results of their changes are going to do to the search orders for all the search options that people are going to use - and they simply didn't realise in advance the problems they were going to cause. And google have made efforts to minimise the damage since then, but they still need to do more.

    Jolyon

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  11. Run out of indexing space? by rqqrtnb · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I heard that Google is using 4-byte ints for DOCids and they have been running out of indexing space since they are pretty close to 2^32 pages already. Is that true?

  12. Good for Google...but: by master_p · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I am still waiting for a search engine that does topic matching instead of text matching. In other words, I would like the search engine to return a list of urls with relative topics instead of relative text. As it is right now, all search engines, including Google, return pages that contain text equal or relative to the input but they might be 98% unrelated. I still can't consider the Internet as a library of knowledge due to this fact.

    For example, if one searches for "TCP/IP tutorials", it would return many unrelated links like posts in newsgroups, college lectures, etc.

  13. Re:Marching In Step by WebGangsta · · Score: 4, Interesting
    My comment was left off the posting indicating that I noticed the change in "number of hamburgers served" message on the Google home page this morning, leading me to wonder what other changes we should be looking for today (and hence leading me to this news, albeit a press release - Search Engine Watch didn't have it mentioned on their home page at the time).

    And the press release doesn't say that they're indexing over 6B pages, so anyone who's saying that here is mistaken.

  14. How much space do they use for caching? by The+One+KEA · · Score: 4, Interesting

    With 6 billion pages indexed and cached, and maybe an average of 50K per page (which is probably pretty conservative - it's probably twice that in some cases), that's nearly 30TB, IICIC!!!

    The hard disk and RAID folks must LOVE Google....

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    1. Re:How much space do they use for caching? by ediron2 · · Score: 4, Interesting
      With 6 billion pages indexed and cached, and maybe an average of 50K per page (which is probably pretty conservative - it's probably twice that in some cases), that's nearly 30TB, IICIC!!! The hard disk and RAID folks must LOVE Google....
      30tb... at a buck a gig, those $30,000 sure do look appetizing to all the hard drive and raid makers.

      Not!

      Hell, even doing 2x or 3x this amount for server-class drives still leaves us talking lame amounts. Just one Hitachi/Sun 9980 Fiber Channel drive costs several times more than this.

      Seriously, everything I've heard indicates that google's methods hinge on a lot of white boxes, each one covering a subset of the google data. Put another way, drivespace per server isn't the limiting factor. A distributed system with several hundred white box servers can't HELP but have tens of terabytes of storage, given drive capacities of tens and hundreds of gigs each.

      A client just bought a Hitachi 9980. As sweet as the Hitachi arrays are, I thought it was the most horrendous waste of cash I'd ever seen, considering this client's more modest needs. THOSE are the customers that raid/drive makers love... all it takes is one IT guy with hardware lust who has the trust of a Fortune-500 firm.

  15. Google pulled us out of "The Dark Ages" by leoaugust · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There is an interesting article in Wash Post Search For Tomorrow on Google, and possible AI in search.

    Some excerpts:

    We stumbled around in libraries. We lifted from the World Book Encyclopedia. We paged through the nearly microscopic listings in the heavy green volumes of the Readers' Guide to Periodical Literature. We latched onto hearsay and rumor and the thinly sourced mutterings of people alleged to be experts. We guessed. We conjectured. And then we gave up, consigning ourselves to ignorance.

    Only now in the bright light of the Google Era do we see how dim and gloomy was our pregooglian world. In the distant future, historians will have a common term for the period prior to the appearance of Google: the Dark Ages.

    There have been many fine Internet search engines over the years -- Yahoo!, AltaVista, Lycos, Infoseek, Ask Jeeves and so on -- but Google is the first to become a utility, a basic piece of societal infrastructure like the power grid, sewer lines and the Internet itself.


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  16. Image search: What's your experiences? by GQuon · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Both Google and Fast have image and picture search. They're all right. But I have had more luck with Lycos.

    What are your experiences?

    Of course, none of these services search in the image data itself. They search filenames, special features (like image size), and the content of the pages they are found in.
    What is the state of searching in images today? Facial recognition systems have existed for a while, but they are made for a specific purpose.

    How long before we can take a picture of that piece of your IKEA furniture and find the same model in pictures of celebrity houses, Babylon 5 sets and crime scenes? Or taking a picture of that familiar-looking person walking down the street, searching for her, and remembering that she was in that "reality" series two years ago.

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  17. Mailing lists by ajs · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The thing that is starting to bother me is not the search-spam (easily removed over time with increasingly smart ranking), but the mailing lists. If 20 sites around the net archive the same mailing list, then I'll get the first 20 hits in most techical searches from the same list. Google really needs some way to identify duplicate archives (which is hard given that they're all formatted differently) and treat them as one "site".

  18. PNG! by pmsyyz · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ... Advanced features include search by image size, format (JPEG and/or GIF) ...

    They didn't mention PNG, the turbo-studly image format which Google Image Search does indeed support.

    It seems they used to have very few PNGs in their database, but now a search for +a filetype:png returns 700,000 results!

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