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Yahoo! Switches Search Engines

Giorgio Baresi writes "As several sources are reporting, Yahoo! in the last hours dumped Google and rolled out a brand new search engine mainly based on Inktomi search technology and Overture sponsored results. On Monday Yahoo! also launched its own crawler, called "Yahoo! Slurp", which replaced former "Inktomi Slurp". Hey, it seems the search engine war has begun!"

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  1. I doubt this is a major problem for Google by The+One+KEA · · Score: 4, Informative

    Yahoo has been talking about dumping Google for a real long time now, so I doubt Google is really surprised. Besides, with the recent update to their index that they just made, I have a feeling that Google is not going to succumb just yet.

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    1. Re:I doubt this is a major problem for Google by Popageorgio · · Score: 5, Informative
      Yahoo has far more traffic than Google: Alexa says so.

      But under 10% of Yahoo's traffic goes to their search sections: Again, Alexa.

    2. Re:I doubt this is a major problem for Google by martijnd · · Score: 5, Informative

      My (limited) observation is that Googles dominance is limited to the area they are playing in.

      My European websites obtain 90% of their hits from Google.

      My Chinese/Japanese language sites obtain 90% of their hits from the local Yahoo.

      The browser wars are far from over outside of the ASCII 1-128 area.

    3. Re:I doubt this is a major problem for Google by claar · · Score: 5, Informative

      You made a good decision not installing the Yahoo search bar. I haven't bothered to read why exactly, but the Spybot -- Search & Destroy software labels it and/or its components as spyware.

      For some reason, whenever I run across machines that have the Yahoo Search bar, this lovely "Search Assistant" thing that gives extra pop up windows when searching is on the machines as well..

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  2. Yahoo has been planning this for ages by naoiseo · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's been live for about 6 months in some parts of the world.

    I still have google results, but can see the new ink results by appending &tmpl=E088 on the end of the SERP url.

  3. search results design by bstil · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yahoo has gone so far as to imitate Google's search results design:

    title: blue, size +1
    excerpts: two lines
    date: green, size: green, "cached" link: gray, etc.

    Yahoo does not have a time stamp for pages, but everything else looks very similar!

  4. Yahoo is Inktomi by Soukyan · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yahoo! has owned Inktomi since March of 2003 so the name change is cosmetic issue. As to dropping Google, it was only a matter of time. I'm thinking Yahoo!'s Paid Inclusion Services to their search engine technology is making a tidy profit. The problem? Their search technology still doesn't appear to be as reliable, accurate or quick as Google.

  5. Didn't Yahoo use Inktomi in the past? by Jugalator · · Score: 3, Informative

    Hmm... I just have a feeling they did and that it sucked. :-) But it seems Inktomi recently released Web Search 9 of their search engine (version 9?) and this change by Yahoo! seems to coincide with that one well enough that they might use some brand new engine, and not just rolling back to some old pre-Google quality crap.

    Here's by the way the press release, which I think should have been linked to from the /. article at least:
    Yahoo Press Release

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  6. Re:Result relevance by costas · · Score: 4, Informative

    Well, the good news is that Yahoo is trying to innovate, which in turn should push Google even further. For example, Yahoo is now linking directly to RSS feeds if you are using RSS-autodiscovery within your page's HTML. That's pretty cool.

  7. Competition is good ... and there will be more by rm007 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Technology Review has a discussion of the coming rivals to Googol in this month's issue. One of them is an Australian outfit called Mooter which does some nifty clustering of results (somewhat familiar to those who remember Northern Light, once a web search engine, now a provider of enterprise search engines). They discuss several others, including efforts by Microsoft, but the general point is that Googol (and Yahoo and Alta Vista etc. before it) have shown the search business to be a very profitable area if you are the leader, so there are a lot of eager pretenders to the throne. Competition is good, web users will end up with better searching, whether from Googol or another provider.

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  8. misinformation on paid inclusion by bad-badtz-maru · · Score: 5, Informative

    There seems to be some confusion as to what is meant by "paid inclusion". It doesn't mean that you pay to get your site listed higher. It means that you pay to get a specific page spidered more often. That's all. If you don't pay, your site still gets listed - and PFI sites don't rank any higher than non-PFI sites.

  9. Re:I love Google. by sugar+and+acid · · Score: 4, Informative

    >Other than selling services to corporations and little text >ads, how does Google make money?

    Ummm by selling services to corporations and little text ads. Googles advertising model is a very good way to make money on the internet by servicing both types of customers well, the normal google user and the advertisers.

    Why, well the text ads are unobtrusive and obvious as advertisement links, and often welcome by the searcher. Why are they welcome, because they relate directly to the search term used. So you search for widgets, and widget inc. pays to put themselves on the first search page. The company gets trade, and the customer gets what they are looking for. In the real world this is the equivalent to the yellowpages directory where companies pay money to be listed with a small advert under a relevant indexed title like plumber or something.

    So why does google have to be number one, because the more eyeballs they have the more money they can charge for an ad and the more companies that will be clamouring to get their little ad link under the "widgets" search term. Again for the yellowpages, in the US ever seen those ads from one or the other yellowpages directory saying that they are the preferred yellowpages by consumers, they are advertsising to potential advertisers in their directory implying that you will get the most value if you advertise in our directory and not the competitions. Same reasons google needs to be number one to maximise their profit.

  10. Re:Actually... by kevin_ka · · Score: 3, Informative

    I just watched the Part again and Yoda defently says: "Begun, the clone war has."
    sry no this

  11. Re:Wonder if it's Linux boxen? by ravydavygravy · · Score: 5, Informative

    Also, what is the basis of a search engine?

    Well, the paper from 98 that describes the PageRank algorithm (as used by Google) can be found here

    Theres a simple explanation of various indexing/ranking schemes here, but if you really want to get up to speed on research into searching the web, try looking at some of the papers from the TREC Web Track

    Happy reading,

    Dave

  12. Why YOU will use Yahoo by Freedom+Bug · · Score: 3, Informative

    Once we have viable competitors to Google, savvy people will prefer the viable competitors. Why? Although Google has done a good job keeping ahead of the optimizers, the best way to avoid optimizers will be to use the competition. So unless you like your first 20 results to be filled with the commercial, optimized, sites, you may be better off using Google competition than using Google.

    Bryan

  13. Compare the search results by GoogleGuy · · Score: 5, Informative

    Hi,

    here's a small tool to compare the search results of Google and Yahoo.

    Have fun.