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Open Source Group Victoria v. SCO, Part II

Following up on last July's complaint, Elektroschock writes that "The Open Source Group Victoria (OSV) made a second complaint to the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC). In a similar case in Germany SCO Group received an injunction from the court, so SCO never sold Linux licenses in Germany (tarent vs. SCO, district court Munich). Competition police seems to be a strong weapon against SCO-like action."

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  1. Re:Injunction? by GigsVT · · Score: 5, Informative

    They claim to have sold a handful to unnamed companies.

    I think Darl said something like "we solicited 14 companies and over 40% of them licensed it" So I guess that means about 5 companies.

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  2. "Administrative detention up to six months" by Animats · · Score: 5, Informative
    The German injunction:
    • Respondent is, in order to avoid
      - an administrative fine from EUR 5 up to EUR 250.000,
      - and, in the case that this cannot be collected, administrative detention
      or
      - administrative detention of up to six months to be enforced in the person of the managing director

      in each case of contravention

      prohibited

      in business relations from claiming and distributing the assertions

      • 1. that the software "Linux" contains SCO's intellectual property that has been unlawfully obtained,
      • 2. that end users who apply Linux are liable for intellectual property infringements towards SCO, and /or
      • 3. that LINUX is an unauthorized derivative of UNIX,

      as far as such assertions are not proven to be true.

    That's clear enough. No more threats by SCO in Germany, or Darl goes to jail.

    SCO isn't fighting this. If they had a case, they would.

  3. Re:Injunction? by telekon · · Score: 5, Informative
    They licensed both the source code and UNIX patents from SCO... This article has the details.

    I was curious as to why they would do this. MS Services for UNIX is the likely reason, but my theory is that after working for over twenty years to come up with an operating system and only managing to come up with Windows XP, they wanted to see how an OS is supposed to work.

    Apple did the same thing... well, no, they bought a company that owned UNIX licenses and used an open-source kernel.

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  4. Re:Injunction? by mrbuttle · · Score: 5, Informative

    We DO know who bought licenses from SCO. In Mark Heise's response to IBM's letter about missing discovery items, he says there are only three that he knows of, Computer Associates, Questar and Leggett & Platt. Links here or here.

  5. Re:What about the US? by terminal.dk · · Score: 4, Informative

    The problem is, that in the USA there is no marketing law protecting consumers.

    In Denmark, marketing must be true,and must be verifiable. And you can't refer to named competitors. So Burger King can't say it is better than McDonald.

    If SCO is saying that the competing product, Linux, is illegal, and trying to sell licenses, then their first action is to go to court to have this claim proved.

    Since they have not done so here in a timely manner (they waited until Linux became big, rather than following their obligation to liit damages), they have no case at all any more against Linux. At least not here. Here you must act, or you are lose your rights. Even if we had GIF patents here, the delay from the patent owner in filing cases would be enough for him to lose his rights.

    Laws are different between countries, and I think the basic principles are way better here. The golden rule is that we look at the interest of the community, and at keeping workplaces running. And the truth is over any technicality (i.e. it doesn't matter how the police found the evidence, as long as it is found. If he got it illegally, that is another case against the police).

  6. Re:What about the US? by Genghis+Troll · · Score: 5, Informative
  7. SCO's not selling Linux licenses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
    From their web site:

    NOTICE: SCO has suspended new sales and distribution of SCO Linux until the intellectual property issues surrounding Linux are resolved. SCO will, however, continue to support existing SCO Linux and Caldera OpenLinux customers consistent with existing contractual obligations. SCO offers at no extra charge to its existing Linux customers a SCO UNIX IP license for their use of prior SCO or Caldera distributions of Linux in binary format. The license also covers binary use of support updates distributed to them by SCO. This SCO license balances SCO's need to enforce its intellectual property rights against the practical needs of existing customers in the marketplace.

    For further information on how to obtain RPMS/SRPMS for OpenLinux, eDesktop and eServer see:

    www.sco.com/support/linux_info.html

    For further information on how to obtain RPMS/SRPMS for SCO Linux 4.0 see:

    www.sco.com/support/scolinux_info.html or the SCO Linux 4.0 Update Download Page.

    From: www.thescogroup.com/support/download.html

  8. Re:Confused... by lucifer_666 · · Score: 4, Informative
    The Australian Consumer & Competition Comission (ACCC) is a government oversight body which has federal powers. It can raid businesses, file charges, detain and question people, they have police like powers.

    The ACCC sticks up for the consumer, takes bad companies to court, stops undercutting to put small businesses out of business, tramples on monopolies, destroys unfair business and does so regularly.

    Most of the big corporates in Australia *hate* them. But I, as a consumer, love them :-)