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Linus on Intel's 64 bit Extensions

ceswiedler writes "KernelTrap is running a thread on the Linux-Kernel mailing list about Intel's new IA-32e 64-bit chip. Linus complains 'what I found so irritating is that _hours_ after the Intel announcement, people were _still_ confused about whether the new intel chip was actually compatible with AMD's chips.' It is, of course, but you have to do a thorough comparison of Intel's reference manuals to discover that-- they don't mention the fact that their new chip is instruction-set compatible with AMD's x86-64 chip." See the previous story for background. So it looks like the reason Intel was vague about their announcement is that they didn't want the WORLD TO KNOW THAT THEY WERE COPYING AND FOLLOWING AMD rather than developing some new thing on their own. Slashdot is proud to help Intel in this quest; wouldn't want the public to know that INTEL WAS SIMPLY FOLLOWING IN AMD'S FOOTSTEPS. Hope this helps.

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  1. Here's my 64-bit opinion: by Can+it+run+Linux · · Score: 4, Funny

    THIS ARTICLE SUMMARY NEEDS MORE UPPERCASE.

    Lameness filter encountered. Post aborted!
    Reason: Don't use so many caps. It's like MICHAEL SIMS BLOWING A GASKET.

    1. Re:Here's my 64-bit opinion: by mws1981 · · Score: 5, Funny

      I think it needs more cow bell...

    2. Re:Here's my 64-bit opinion: by RetroGeek · · Score: 5, Funny

      I think it needs more cow bell...

      <bink>ceswiedler <bink>writes <bink>"KernelTrap <bink>is <bink>running <bink>a <bink>thread <bink>on <bink>the <bink>Linux-Kernel <bink>mailing <bink>list <bink>about <bink>Intel's <bink>new <bink>IA-32e <bink>64-bit <bink>chip. <bink>Linus <bink>complains <bink>'what <bink>I <bink>found <bink>so <bink>irritating <bink>is <bink>that <bink>_hours_ <bink>after <bink>the <bink>Intel <bink>announcement, <bink>people <bink>were <bink>_still_ <bink>confused <bink>about <bink>whether <bink>the <bink>new <bink>intel <bink>chip <bink>was <bink>actually <bink>compatible <bink>with <bink>AMD's <bink>chips.' <bink>It <bink>is, <bink>of <bink>course, <bink>but <bink>you <bink>have <bink>to <bink>do <bink>a <bink>thorough <bink>comparison <bink>of <bink>Intel's <bink>reference <bink>manuals <bink>to <bink>discover <bink>that-- <bink>they <bink>don't <bink>mention <bink>the <bink>fact <bink>that <bink>their <bink>new <bink>chip <bink>is <bink>instruction-set <bink>compatible <bink>with <bink>AMD's <bink>x86-64 <bink>chip." <bink>See <bink>the <bink>previous <bink>story <bink>for <bink>background. <bink>So <bink>it <bink>looks <bink>like <bink>the <bink>reason <bink>Intel <bink>was <bink>vague <bink>about <bink>their <bink>announcement <bink>is <bink>that <bink>they <bink>didn't <bink>want <bink>the <bink>WORLD <bink>TO <bink>KNOW <bink>THAT <bink>THEY <bink>WERE <bink>COPYING <bink>AND <bink>FOLLOWING <bink>AMD <bink>rather <bink>than <bink>developing <bink>some <bink>new <bink>thing <bink>on <bink>their <bink>own. <bink>Slashdot <bink>is <bink>proud <bink>to <bink>help <bink>Intel <bink>in <bink>this <bink>quest; <bink>wouldn't <bink>want <bink>the <bink>public <bink>to <bink>know <bink>that <bink>INTEL <bink>WAS <bink>SIMPLY <bink>FOLLOWING <bink>IN A<bink>MD'S <bink>FOOTSTEPS. <bink>Hope <bink>this helps.<bi<bink>

      How is that?

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    3. Re:Here's my 64-bit opinion: by geeber · · Score: 5, Funny

      You sir are absolutely correct. Without all the uppercase MICHAEL MIGHT BE IN DANGER OF ALMOST APPEARING SOMEWHAT PROFESSIONAL.

      Nah. On second thought, there was never any danger of that.

    4. Re:Here's my 64-bit opinion: by zephc · · Score: 5, Funny

      I have a fever!... and the only cure... is more cowbell!

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    5. Re:Here's my 64-bit opinion: by Uber+Banker · · Score: 4, Funny

      You forgot to .

    6. Re:Here's my 64-bit opinion: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      That'd be the Engish anguage, if you pease.

    7. Re:Here's my 64-bit opinion: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Oh, snap! Someone used too many capital letters. Boo hoo! I am so offended! Let's make a big deal about it while silently letting slide those who happily exchange ``it's'' for ``its,'' ``cant'' for ``can't,'' ``your'' for ``you're.''

      ``Hey, look at me! I cant spell seperate; its too hard. But that's OK---oh, crap in a hat! I just used two capitle letters in a roe! Seeing capiddle letters causes me phizicle pain! Oh the humanity! Woe is me! Armageddon is here: somebody just posted a slashdot article containing sequential capittel letters! Will the madness never stop? I must band together with other concerned posters (you know who your) and set the capital poster straight---wait, did I just spell capital correctly? I cant take it anymore. Its just to much for me! Goodby, cruel world!'' [Blam] DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD [Hand falls to keyboard, simultaneously holding down the Caps Lock and D keys.]

  2. thanks.. by srinivas_rc · · Score: 5, Funny

    for clarification :) Now slashdot will clarify things that businesses cannot ;)

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  3. Decaf!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Whoa easy on the caps there cowboy :)

    1. Re:Decaf!!! by loserbert · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm having trouble controlling the VOLUME OF MY VOICE...

    2. Re:Decaf!!! by The_K4 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Hey it's Howard Dean! :)

  4. I hope.. by ooby · · Score: 4, Funny

    Nobody smart reads Slashdot, otherwise the goose is loose.

  5. If there was any doubt... by Jonas+the+Bold · · Score: 4, Funny

    If there was any doubt that Slashdot is a valid news source, those fears can now be LAYED TO REST.

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    1. Re:If there was any doubt... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'd say that LAYED TO REST should be spelled LAID TO REST, but some grammar fascists would probably tell me it should be lain to rest, lay to rest, etc. etc. ad infinitum. :)

  6. Intel to AMD: by PornMaster · · Score: 5, Funny

    All your instructions are belong to us.

  7. Well, I'm glad, quite frankly. by paroneayea · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'd rather have AMD be the leader than Intel. I've always been happy with AMD, seeing as how they don't bloat the appearance of speed on their cards to the average dolt at the expense of clear technical data.

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  8. Ironic twist of fate by Egekrusher2K · · Score: 4, Funny

    Up until recently, AMD has had to follow in Intel's footsteps. They have been forced to use Intel's extensions for years- until this (VERY) bold move by them. Now, the tables are turned, and Intel are backed into the corner instead of AMD. I love it.

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  9. After all.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Since when has reading articles been a requirement of posting in any given Slashdot article?

  10. AMD to Intel: by Chicane-UK · · Score: 5, Funny

    All your customer are belong to us ;)

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  11. Re:All Caps by Prior+Restraint · · Score: 5, Funny

    All caps automatically annoy me, and have done since I can remember.

    Even back in the Apple ][ days when you had no choice in the matter?

  12. Re:All Caps by gandy909 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I didn't see it as: unimportant/important.

    I saw it as: quiet/LOUD!

    ...which makes it even funnier...

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  13. Maybe its just me... by NeoTheOne · · Score: 5, Funny

    but does anyone else find IA-32e to be a STUPID name for a 64-bit processor?

  14. Re:All Caps by AndroidCat · · Score: 5, Funny

    Even in those days, not everyone did things half-ASCII.

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  15. Re:That may change if AMD can correctly market it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'd like to see an AMD commercial (with the Blue Man Group) that hypes up Intel Inside, only at the end to show an Intel CPU with a little AMD Inside sticker on it.

  16. God I love it. by cactopus · · Score: 4, Funny

    First HP makes PA-RISC. This turns out to be a kick-ass architecture with a lot of room to grow. Years go by and Intel enters into a partnership with HP to develop PA-RISC into Merced... nee Itanium. This is good. Intel of course bojos everything up and many millions of dollars later, we have really kick-ass PA-RISC chips and Itanium 1 which nobody gives a rats ass about. Some improvement later and we still have some even more kick-ass HPPA chips and Itanium 2 and its ilk.

    Then $SUIT_IN_THE_EXTREME Carly decides after buying CornPACK and Tandem to say F*** all common sense... we have this next-gen PA-RISC design called MAKO and our current Superdomes that outperform Itanium 2 (but shhh don't publish those results)... lets throw it all out... HPPA, MIPS (Himalaya), Alpha, yes all the good processor technology we own... to be dependent on Intel who has no prior experience with 64 bits other than our partnership that makes crappy chips and bet the farm on Intel as being the bomb diggity of 64-bitness.

    Now Intel realizes... WE GOOFED big time. WE HUFFED the SCO crack-pipe... lets make x86-64 (one big head smack for the obvious not occurring to them earlier, and another one for extending the life of x86 even farther). WHERE does this leave both Intel (with IBM and POWER4/5/6+ spanking their asses back to the stone age) and poor (NOT) HP who bet the farm on Itanic 2... ?

    Oh this is too good.

    I hope they both sink in the same boat.

    and for AMD's sake I hope they add a fs*ckin thermistor to their procs so if the heat sink is loose they don't smoke themselves... (fsckin unacceptable).