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Protecting Your Gear from Pets?

EvilJoven asks: "About a month ago I spent quite a large chunk of change on a new system only to have my cat chew through the VGA source cable of my brand new display. Over the course of the last few years my cat has cost me nearly $300CDN in repair and replacement costs due to chewed cables including a few power cables which are not only a pain to replace but potentially fatal to the animal and a fire hazard. So far the best solution I've found to stop this is wrapping all my cables in Snap-On Wire Protectors (about $6CDN for 3m at Canadian Tire in the Automotive section) but this is a rather unsightly solution. Due to the fact that I live in a one bedroom apartment restricting my cats access to my hardware is not an option. I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions on a better way to protect gear from animals."

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  1. Nail biting by Improv · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When I was young, my parents experimented with
    putting stuff on my nails to stop me from biting
    them. It tasted terrible. Perhaps the same could
    be applied to cables in your apartment?

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  2. Give your cat some cables by samjam · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Give your cat some cables of its own.
    Hang a few up, coil a few around it's cat box.

    It should be easier to direct the cat to its own cables than keep it away altogether.

    Sam

    1. Re:Give your cat some cables by grimace1969 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Doesn't this just reinforce bad behaviour? how does the cat know that its ok to chew on "cat" cables not "your" cables?

      -G

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    2. Re:Give your cat some cables by facelessnumber · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Doesn't this just reinforce bad behaviour? how does the cat know that its ok to chew on "cat" cables not "your" cables?

      I guess you don't have a cat. =) The notion that the cat will learn "right" or "wrong," "good" or "bad" behavior is wishful thinking at best. This idea applies to dogs just fine, since they're more likely to see people as some kind of an authority figure. Cats however will think of you as an equal if you're lucky and worthy, and as a contemptible servant to be rewarded, punished and tolerated as the cat sees fit if you're not lucky. This person's cat will be chewing on cables until chewing on cables ceases to entertain it, and not before. Dogs want to make master happy and will respond to discipline, whereas cats want you to make master happy, and they will be the ones doing the disciplne...

    3. Re:Give your cat some cables by schon · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I guess you don't have a cat.

      Speaking as someone who has had cats (I had my last one since he was a kitten, he passed away last spring at 16 years old) I can say you're full of it.

      The notion that the cat will learn "right" or "wrong," "good" or "bad" behavior is wishful thinking at best.

      No, it's not. Cats are social creatures, just like dogs - just because they display their sociality in different manner than dogs, or that some cat owners decide to reward thier cat's dominant behaviour (which is misinterpreted as anti-social tendencies), doesn't mean that the social instincts are not there.

      Everything in your post shows that you are the type of person who rewards your cat for displaying dominant behaviour, and allows the cat to be dominant. Many people with small dogs frequently have the same problems, typically because they tend to 'baby' smaller animals.

      This idea applies to dogs just fine, since they're more likely to see people as some kind of an authority figure

      This is complete bullshit. It's just as easy to have an improperly trained dog as an improperly trained cat. I see it all the time - especially with small dogs.

      Cats however will think of you as an equal if you're lucky and worthy, and as a contemptible servant to be rewarded, punished and tolerated as the cat sees fit if you're not lucky.

      Luck has nothing to do with it. In both of the cases you mention, you're simply not establishing dominance, and so the animal (seeing no leader present) decides to become the leader.

      This person's cat will be chewing on cables until chewing on cables ceases to entertain it, and not before.

      Again, only if he allows the cat to be dominant.

      Dogs want to make master happy and will respond to discipline

      First, dogs only want to make 'master' happy if the master properly enforces his/her role as pack leader.

      Second, discipline is not the way to cure any animal (dog or cat) of unacceptable behavior. A good trainer will use other methods.

    4. Re:Give your cat some cables by gmhowell · · Score: 2, Insightful

      A good trainer will use other methods.

      No, a good trainer will recognize the both reward and discipline have their places. Each is but a tool, with a proper use for each. Much like parenting. But then again, I bet you think a 'time out' is a cureall.

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  3. Get another cat? by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Suggestion: Your cat is trying to say he or she is not happy. Get another cat so that he will have something to do while you are at work. They will chase each other around and make noises like a herd of cattle, but they won't chew cables.

  4. You and your cat have a relation problem by Tux2000 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Cats usually don't chew on cables, so this is an indicator that something is wrong. And it's not your cables.

    It might be an indicator that the two of you have a relation problem. The cat may want more attention. Especially if the cat does not go out of the house, you are the only one "social contact" for the cat. Play with the cat, pet the cat, crawl the cat. Or if you don't think that you have the time to do so, give away your cat to someone who cares for it; and get your self a cat doll.

    Maybe your cat is a real hunter but has no other prey than those dangling cables. Get or make some cat toys. Remember: "Everything not nailed down is a cat toy." You just have to make sure that your cat toys are more attractive than your hardware.

    A last idea, to cure the symptoms but not the disease: place your cables in flexible tubes. IKEA has flexible tubes in black and white that can be wrapped around the cables without disconnecting them. Unless your cat can look onto your table while standing on the floor, it will have a hard time chewing through those tubes.

    Tux2000

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    1. Re:You and your cat have a relation problem by TJmoney · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Cats usually don't chew on cables, so this is an indicator that something is wrong.

      Every cat i'v ever known loves to play with anything resembling a string. While a VGA cable may or may not be too thick for that description, things like speaker or mouse cables are a perfectly natural thing to attract a cat's attention. Bundling all your cables with simple wire ties may result in somthing too big for the cat to have any fun with. Possibly an alternative string would do the trick. My ex's cat had an elasticy string from a christmas present that it played with constantly, and was aparently very careful not to loose since it had the same string for over a year. It seemed to have quite an attachment to that silly piece of string, and never messed with any other wires in the house. Maybe the same would work for your cat.

  5. +5 Insightful by vrai · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Cats are hunters. They need lots of space for territory and lots of things to hunt. They are not indoor animals. You should only have a cat if they have access to the outside world - making them spend their entire lives inside is cruel beyond belief.

    My solution? Give the cat to someone with a garden and get a more docile animal that won't mind living indoors. Chinchillas, hamsters or rabbits are ideal for this. But not a cat.

    1. Re:+5 Insightful by KnightStalker · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Oh, good idea. Recommend animals that MUST chew on things to prevent their teeth from growing too long. I don't know about chinchillas or hamsters (which I guess you normally keep in a cage), but rabbits chew on everything within reach of their nasty sharp pointy teeth. Might be some good advice for the cat as well here: Rabbit-proofing

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  6. Re:Mark your territory by Maskirovka · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I suppose you could pee on all your cables and the like. You know, "marking your territory" so to speak.

    This would probably result in the cat peeing and shitting on the cables.

  7. Re:The best solution by Admiral1973 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I can't believe that people have modded this post insightful. I would guess that the poster and the mods were not pet owners. We need a mod tag for "insensitive." A pet is an integral part of someone's life. You wouldn't get rid of a child because it chewed on something in your house, would you?

    My wife and I have three cats in a two-bedroom apartment and they have plenty of room to run around. However, we used to live in a tiny one-bedroom (and it was only called a 1 BR because of the door between the two rooms) and the cats had lots of fun chasing each other in the limited space we had. My suggestion would not be to get rid of the one cat because of space, but add a second cat to give the first one a playmate. That should distract the cats from the computer. Our cats enjoy playing with each other more than they do with us, and they leave my computer equipment alone. One of my cats does like to nibble on my office laptop's AC adapter cable, so I've made a habit of hiding the cable under the couch when I'm not using it. When I am using it and he starts nibbling, I discipline him to try, usually in vain, to teach him that chewing the cable is bad. It's not a perfect system but I'd rather replace cables than get rid of my cats.

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  8. A couple ideas... by blate · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I had the same problem with my golden retriever when he was young ($100 USB headsets

    When animals chew on inappropriate things, it can mean one or more of several things. [Caveat: my experience is largely with dogs, though I expect some of the insights will apply to felines too.]

    o They are teething or have a dental problem. This is normal when they are young (and new teeth are coming in).
    o They are bored or feel abandoned -- inappropriate chewing, marking, etc. can be a compulsive disorder for dogs, kind of like ADHD. Sometimes it is an experssion of anxiety (particularly separation anxiety) or lack of attention. There are resources available for training this out of dogs (and cats, too, I assume)
    o In the case of both cats and dogs, it can mean they are pissed off at you, either for leaving them alone, not playing with them, or whatever.
    o Finally, it may indicate that they are hungry (is your cat *eating* the wire or just chewing it to bits?). If they are eating what they are chewing up, you'll find... evidence... routed though their South end in a couple days... :)

    Deterrance and correction. The best course of action is to catch them in the act and correct them, usually with a loud "DON'T!" or something similar. In the case of dogs in particular, this is a good opportunity to establish dominance -- e.g., roll the dog on his back, pin him down (primarily by the neck or mouth), and hold him there until he stops struggling. He'll understand that you're the Alpha and that he's done something unappropriate.

    [Note: this is a fight that you absolutely have to win -- if he escapes, catch him; if he tries to get away, restrain him. If you don't win the engagement, the dog will conclude that the's the Alpha and behavior problems will persist. Also, I'm not advocating *hurting* or being violent with your pet. The technique I described mimics, at least for dogs, actual dominant dog behavior, but does not inflict injury or physical pain. It sends the right message with a minimum of violence and a maximum of effectiveness and is a well-accepted training technique.]

    One thing that is not effective is correcting the animal after the fact -- dogs and cats have short memories. If he chewed up your cables and you yell at him even 5 minutes later, he won't understand -- most animals don't have the sophisticated reasoning system to connect the correction with the past event. You have to catch him in the act and issue the correction post haste.

    One way to ensure that you can catch them in the act is to set up a "trap" -- leave a cable on the floor and keep an eye on the animal. If, or when, he goes after it, nail him then and there. If you do this a couple times, then hopefully he'll get the idea that cables are not food/playthings :)

    Another technique is to use a product such as "Sour Apple", which you coat on surfaces (such as cables) that the animal tends to eat. The product is non-toxic, but tastes quite nasty to them (very bitter/sour) and will deter them. Your local pet shop should have a selection of such products. I never had to use them with my dog, but I have friends who have used it with great success.

    The behavior problem may also be due to the fact that the animal does not have any or enough appropriate toys to chew on. Go to your pet shop and buy a selection of animal- and breed- (read: size) appropriate toys. If the problem is chewing, then get chew-toys. If the problem is scratching, get scratching posts or similar products.

    Introduce the toys to your pet and praise or reward him when he chews on them and plays with them. This will build a positive association between playing with the appropriate toys. Together with strong corrections for playing with inappropriate "toys", the animal should learn which toys are his and which are not.

    If the problem is hunger, then "free-feeding" may be a desirable option. Rather than feeding the animal at distinct times of the day, you leave out excess food in his b

  9. Ahem by devphil · · Score: 2, Insightful


    Just be sure to check what you're about to spray water on before squeezing the spray trigger. If it's part of your computer, stop.

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