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'Extreme' Web Sites Under Fire From UK Police

An anonymous reader writes "A conference on electronic crime, taking place in London this week, has thrown up some interesting news. Britain's top hi-tech police officer has demanded a crackdown on Web sites devoted to 'abhorrent' subjects such as cannibalism and necrophilia. What happened to freedom of expression online?"

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  1. Re:No right to free speech/press by gibbsjoh · · Score: 5, Informative

    Do your research, the BBC is publicly funded but (as the recent debacle proves) is anything _but_ a "government organ."

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  2. Re:There is no "freedom of expression online" by squiggleslash · · Score: 5, Informative
    There is no "Freedom of expression" law in the UK - it's not a right like in the US.
    Erm, the European Convention on Human Rights was written into British law in 1998.
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  3. Re:Duh by Saeed+al-Sahaf · · Score: 5, Informative
    "What happened to freedom of expression online?"

    Remember, the story refers to the UK, not the USA. Things are different there, government and law struture wise.

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  4. Re:UKers don't have freedom of speech by dave420-2 · · Score: 5, Informative
    What crack are you smoking? Britain defined freedom as everyone knows it. Starting back in 1215, with the Magna Carta. Read up on it. That's right, nearly 600 years before the US constitution, the original document was formed.

    Plus, the UK is protected by EU human rights laws, which expressly protect freedom of speech.

    I guess the US media was too busy shouting "USA! USA! USA!" to broadcast that particular nugget.

  5. Re:IF it's illegal... by jabuzz · · Score: 5, Informative

    Once upon a time that was true. However the Human Rights Act changed the ground rules and we now do. On the other hand a simple Act of Parliment can take it away again in an instance.

  6. Re:IF it's illegal... by pershino · · Score: 5, Informative
    "Once upon a time that was true. However the Human Rights Act changed the ground rules and we now do. On the other hand a simple Act of Parliment can take it away again in an instance."

    And if our dear Overlord... erm Home Secretary, has his way, then the government will have the right to suspend any law they choose, including the Human Rights Act. So it will only require an 'Act of the Home Secretary' to suspend freedom of speech.

    See BBC News here, here, and here

    I for one welcome our new Overlord, erm Home Secretary

  7. Re:Just wondering. by FurryFeet · · Score: 5, Informative

    Libel and Slander are civil torts in most cases. Criminal libel exists in less than half of the states, and is extremely rarely used: Reference . Just remember libel or slander cases and you'll always see "million dollar suits", but never "3 to 5 years".
    Yelling in a crowded theater: That is not an actual law, but a Supreme Court decision. Read it, and you'll see that the Justices were extremely reluctant to apply any limits to freedom of speech. The only reason that one stands is because it can cause actual physical damage to someone (that also stands behind the "hate speech" exception).
    I don't see how "gross" speech can physically harm someone. And you will agree that this can be the beginning of a slippery slope (remember the "bonsai kittens" thing. There are lots of people who will try and silence all kinds of speeck "for the children").

  8. Re:... and in a related story... by cotodoso · · Score: 5, Informative

    Not just members of your own species, actually. Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy (aka mad cow disease) is thought to have been introduced via ground-up organs (including brains) from sheep infected with scrapie. Scrapie is a wasting disease in sheep that was first described several centuries ago but that has never been known to have been passed on to humans. Once the condition made the jump from sheep to cattle, it also became transmissible to people.

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