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NAE's Draper Prize Goes To PARC's Alto Developers

mccalli writes "The National Academy of Engineering has awarded the Charles Stark Draper Prize to various individuals 'for the vision, conception, and development of the principles for, and their effective integration in, the world's first practical networked personal computers.' The prize is shared amongst two ex-Xerox people, with MIT and HP also making a showing."

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  1. Little know fact about Charles Stark Draper by AmandaHugginkiss · · Score: 5, Interesting

    he is the great uncle of John 'Captain Crunch' Draper, the infamous phone hacker.

    I'm wondering if the Captain will get a prize someday.....

  2. Re:Alan Kay and the rest of the PARC crew richly by TheAncientHacker · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Nice try but Windows UI preceded the JOINTLY DEVELOPED IBM/Microsoft Presentation Manager UI (first shown in OS/2 1.1) which was a merger of Microsoft's Windows UI and IBM's Common User Access (CUA). CUA sought to make everything from PC GUIs to 3278 green-screen terminals look the same and just ended up with a least-common-denominator unusable UI.

  3. No mention of Microsoft? by PornMaster · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The prize is shared amongst two ex-Xerox people, with MIT and HP also making a showing.

    So, besides bias, is there a reason that these institutions were mentioned, but not Microsoft?

    "Charles P. Thacker also is a distinguished engineer at Microsoft Corp."

    Geez...

  4. Re:Good to see originators getting credit. by SabrStryk · · Score: 3, Interesting

    i don't see apple catching up there.

    Amen. While the single-button might be "less intimidating," Apple has really left that image behind. Now it's more of a "computer for hip people. you wanna be hip? buy apple." Even hip people can use two buttons. And Apple has enough of a design staff that they could build a work-of-art pointing device with 6 buttons that also made you coffee while you waited.

    I understand that a USB mouse from another manufacturer works; my point is that if it's not standard, there's less of an incentive to write for it.

    (On a sidenote, has anyone ever tried the UT2k3 demo on a demo Mac? Horrid. Missing the secondary fires really limits UT.)

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    "A group of words expressing something other than their literal intention. Now that... is... irony!" - Bender
  5. See www.smalltalk.org by rofthorax · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Steve Jobs and Bill Gates borrowed
    their ides for the GUI and mouse and such from
    not only Xerox PARC but from the Smalltalk
    environment. Smalltalk is not just a language, its a Object Oriented operating environment.. Its hard to call it an operating system even though it controlled resources on the machine,
    and its not really just a language because it allows the users to change the workings of the language and the operating environment at any time.. Its just a massively self-referencing OO environment.. And everything we know of GUI's and mice and such today was based on smalltalk and the machine designed around it..

    Just Xerox was not smart enough to cash in on it because it was so far before its time that there were few with much power to exploit it and sell it.. PARC as was explained at the time was a campus full of nerds designing stuff that made sense without the constraints that usually hold down projects, like having to make money. They had enough money to develop this system.. But certainly nobody was foofing off.. Its hard to know exactly what was involved in the development, what led to it and if this can ever happen again..

    Get a big company with lots of money and poor resource management, get a lot of smart people who are driven to solve problems, keep the lawyers off campus.. Make sure the nerds are absolutely clueless about business and making money.. Remember at the time, nobody was making money selling software much.. The idea was to sell a machine.. Xerox sold hardware not software.. I don't think this can ever happen again.. There is just too much to take for granted, like that anyone can take the software and go sell a piece of it or release it on the Internet..

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  6. Wasn't Lynn Conway involved in this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...or was she still just a backroom player, still (re)working her way up the development ladder?

    For those that don't know about Lynn, she developed the first superscalar computer back in '61, the IBM ACS, and went on to develop much of the tech for VLSI. She spent much time at Parc during the '70's too, which is why I was wondering.

    There's something else very special about her as well, which endears her to me for similar reasons.

  7. Congratulations to them! by OmniGeek · · Score: 3, Interesting

    When I was a college student, I did a co-op assignment at Xerox in Webster, NY, where I had the chance to play with an Alto at lunchtimes. It was an impressive machine, the size of a dishwasher, with a strange mouse arrangement and a crisp, big monochrome bitmap display.

    I have fond memories of playing Mazewar (a VERY early real-time networked multi-player 3D VR game, one of the very first FPS games, I suspect) on the Alto in between system crashes.

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