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Timeshifting: Cram More Into Life

jimharris writes "The VCR started it - and then the DVR improved it, so now I want to apply the concept of timeshifting in other ways. I've always wanted an audio cassette player that worked like a VCR so I could listen to more radio talk shows. This morning's NY Times stirred my interest with After TiVo, Radio Rewound about a MP3 device that does just that. Better yet, is Replay Radio - software that is more flexible and you can download the results to a portable player. I already use Audible.com to squeeze in more books in my life, by listening, rather than reading. I've completed 8 unabridged books in two months just by carrying around my Otis player when I get dressed in the morning, driving to and from work, doing housework, or when I exercise. Now I'm wondering how I can timeshift even more."

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  1. Tivo2 by l810c · · Score: 5, Informative

    Tivo2 is supposed to add support for XM Radio in the 2nd half of 2004. Digital quality radio recording sounds like a great combination.

    1. Re:Tivo2 by TopShelf · · Score: 5, Funny

      Don't forget the useful option to pause the live feed, so you can take that call on the cell phone and still get the scoop on Moldovan dairy farmers on NPR...

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  2. Oh boy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    God forbid we sit and do nothing. It may cause us to think about our lives. Best to just keep ourselves busy all the time; flooding our ears with sound and our eyes with images. We must all do our part to keep introspection at bay, lest we realize things are not as perfect as they seem.

    1. Re:Oh boy by mccalli · · Score: 5, Funny
      God forbid we sit and do nothing. It may cause us to think about our lives...We must all do our part to keep introspection at bay, lest we realize things are not as perfect as they seem.

      Yep. Glad to see you're avoiding this profound philosophical problem by keeping yourself busy posting about it on Slashdot...

      Cheers,
      Ian

  3. Time compression by stanmann · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Save more time by using software to strip out the pauses and slightly speed up the audio.. up to about 1.5x... That way you can watch an hour show in 30 minutes.. once you strip out the commercials, pauses and laugh track...

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    1. Re:Time compression by the_rev_matt · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If you just want to know what happened on the show, why not grab the closed caption stream and pipe it to a text file and speed read it?

      On some shows eliminating pauses, laugh tracks, and speeding it up would be fine (talk shows, cooking shows, sports, reality shows) but for any work of fiction (movies, dramas, even sitcoms) timing and pacing are a significant part of what makes the show good or bad (sit through a poorly edited movie sometime, or watch any of the last several seasons of Friends and you'll see what I mean). Eliminating these subtle touches greatly affects the perception of the quality of the show.

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  4. Me - cynical? by scottyboy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    So is this like uh... a thinly disguised advert, or what?

    (Yes, I checked out the site)

  5. Personally... by crawdaddy · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'd like to be able to timeshift my /. posts. Then I can always have "First Post"!

  6. why timeshift? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Someone is going to complain about cramming more stuff into life, so it may as well be me. Dead time is sweet time. There's nothing wrong with lying around, ignoring the phone, staring out the windows and contemplating your navel. Time shifting makes every waking moment seem like work. Chill.

    1. Re:why timeshift? by nebaz · · Score: 5, Insightful

      While it is true that there should be some down time in life, Time Shifting is definitely useful. I have quite a long commute to work each day and books on tape make the experience much better. There is only so much time in a day. Sometime time shifting actually ALLOWS more down time.

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  7. howard stern listener by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    if you're a howard stern listener just use newsgroups.

    alt.binaries.howard-stern has commercial free shows everyday. you can also find other popular radio talk shows on newsgroups daily. just have to look.

  8. College students: timeshifting lectures by OpenGLFan · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Ooold tech: we college students have been taping and timeshifting lectures for years.

    iPod missed a great bit, though -- if they'd included the mp3-recording capabilities (something like the iRiver's hd recorder, or the Ripflash) then I bet that would've caught on VERY quickly. (You go to class today, I'll go tomorrow, we'll exchange mp3s tonight.)

    I'd love to record my lectures, but I don't have $400 for an iRiver, and I can't find a minitape recorder that will last for 1.5 hours without stopping and flipping...

    1. Re:College students: timeshifting lectures by evanbd · · Score: 5, Funny
      You go to class today, I'll go tomorrow, we'll exchange mp3s tonight.

      Whoa. Tell me how you plan to do that! I have a test coming up I could use some advance info on...

  9. Simple: by LV-427 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Step 1: Obtain DeLorean.
    Step 2:: Invent Flux Capacitor.
    Step 3: Timeshift.

  10. Mac users, shift! by tribguru · · Score: 5, Informative

    Mac users have a new timeshift option (if Griffin ever ships it); check out RadioShark. It records AM, FM, and Internet broadcasts into AIFF format. Upload to your MP3 player and away you go!

    (Now just SHIP the darned thing, Griffin.)

  11. Ghetto engineering by almaon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Somewhat related to the topic. Before the internet, I wanted to record long radio programs in the morning/afternoon while I was away at work and was not allowed to listen to the radio. I needed a way to record radio programs that were 4-6 hours long, a cassette deck didn't cut it...

    Ghetto engineering! I jacked my stereo through the back of a VCR's audio in, used a VHS tape set on SLP, program the VCR to start and stop recording at a predetermined time, and abracadabra: 6 hours of hassle free recording.

    Glad to know that there are less ghetto ways of doing it now, the Griffin Technology RadioSHARK looks promising for OSX. www.griffintechnology.com

  12. One word by burgburgburg · · Score: 5, Funny
    Crank.

    Once you get rid of that annoying sleep habit, you find the possibilities are limitless. I finished the entire "A la recherche du temps perdu" in 18 hours in the original and I don't even speak French. I think. Except for these damn spiders crawling up my arms, this is great. Just great!

    1. Re:One word by Em+Emalb · · Score: 5, Funny

      Reminds me of a damned funny SNL episode with Jim Carrey:

      We combine a heat bead suit with the common knowledge of ordinary street junkies to bring you this: Jimmy Tango's Fat Busters!

      You wear the patented vibrating heat bead suit and jam gobs of raw crystal meth into your system!

      Don't be afraid to RIDE THE SNAKE!!!


      Testimonial:
      Not only did I lose 140 lbs in two weeks, I also learned I am the devil!

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  13. Ack! Are you serious? by atomly · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Another option would be to read books because you find it enjoyable. You're bound to have an ulcer by 35 if you keep up like this. Sometime I worry that I spend too much of my day ingesting data because I read so many websites, newsgroups, message boards, mailing lists, etc. and I certainly don't need to cram any more in while putting on my socks in the morning.

    It's going to be interesting to see how this all plays out. We're the first generation to have this much data available to us at all times, but I don't think we've really started to see the true effects of it yet. Just think about how much more media (music, movies, books, etc) we're exposed to than previous generations-- I wonder what the implications of that will be.

    I can already, as a musician, see a very big change to music and to how people interact with it. People spend so much less time actually appreciating music than they used to. Just think that, not that long ago, people used to sit down together and listen to a record and do nothing else. You rarely see anybody do anything like that anymore. Hell, most people I know barely finish listening to songs anymore now that they have access to MP3 players.

    If you examine other areas of media (news, books, movies, etc), all of this is happening in much the same way. I digest easily 100 times the news in a day that somebody would've 50 years ago, I see at least five movies a week (thank you, Netflix and Suprnova!), etc. Not to mention how many ads I see in any given day.

    I think that having all of this information at our fingertips is going to be a double-edged sword. Just like having MP3s around commoditized music, the same will go for all media. And just as search engines/data collection sites (say, for example, Slashdot or Metafilter-- sites that find data for you) became the "killer app" for the web, I guess these "timeshifting" devices, like TiVo, which allow you to collect the data you wish to collect from a given source (i.e. record all episodes of "Arrested Development," "Curb Your Enthusiasm," and "The World Series of Poker"), will become the "killer app" of their respected medium. I just have to wonder how it will affect us as people and our society as a whole.

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  14. Damn, Unplug and take a walk by Inexile2002 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Seriously. You need some perspective.

    Once a year for a week I just force myself to unplug. I yank the network cards and modems out of my machines, unplug the controllers on my game systems, take my tv remote, monitor power cord, PDA and cel phone - put it all in a box and drop it off at a friend's house.

    No radio, no news, no newspapers, no magazines, no tv, no nothing. I allow myself books, but only stuff that I've been planning to read for at least a year and putting off. The first few days are a little stressing, I start to get jittery and keep panicking that I'm missing something important. But by the end of the week I've got more perspective on life, more perspective on all those little electronic leashes that I impose on myself and generally a much much much lower tolerance for most of the info-garbage that I regularly consume.

    Someone who's unironically posting a message seeking help on ways to more efficiently consume more media than he already does has to step back and think about that for a second. I don't mean to sound judgemental at all - really - but damn man, if your problem is that you can't figure out how to cram a little more media into your life then you need to step back for a minute and really give your life a good hard ponder.

    I don't mean to sound all hippy zen on you, but when was the last time you felt grass on your bare feet? Best of luck, but no one ever said on their death bed, "If only I had listened to more talk radio..."

    1. Re:Damn, Unplug and take a walk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I yank the network cards and modems out of my machines, unplug the controllers on my game systems, take my tv remote, monitor power cord, PDA and cel phone - put it all in a box and drop it off at a friend's house.

      I think what you are looking for is the power switch.

    2. Re:Damn, Unplug and take a walk by WormholeFiend · · Score: 5, Funny

      "when was the last time you felt grass on your bare feet?"

      isnt going to the park one of the advantages of having a laptop?

  15. Other ways to timeshift (not just audio) by Glonoinha · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Rearrange your work schedule so you start at 7am and get off at 3pm or 4pm. By hitting the streets at semi- off hours you will cut your commute time by possibly half (less traffic.) Time saved : 1 hour per day on the average.

    By hitting your seat at 7am when the office is empty and quiet you can get more productive sooner, and get more done between 7am and 9am than most people have done by noon.

    Let a woman take you clothes shopping, throw out everything in your closet and replace it with whatever she suggests. Make sure everything matches everything else. Time saved : none, but nobody will know you got dressed in the dark before you had caffeine in your system.

    Don't sleep in on weekends. Get up at your regular time instead of 11am and you have effectively doubled the number of hours of daylight you get on each weekend day. God I love to sleep in so I hate this one.

    Get your news from FARK (www.fark.com) In the hour it takes to watch the news on TV you could have a synopsis of the important events around the globe from a hundred different news sources. If it is newsworthy, it's on FARK.

    Cancel your MMORPG accounts (stop playing Everquest). This will give you back 1000 hours per year. Maybe more.

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    Glonoinha the MebiByte Slayer
    1. Re:Other ways to timeshift (not just audio) by monkeytalks · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Sure, I could do all that... but the thing about saving that you have to ask yourself is: what are you saving up for? Isn't the whole point of saving time so that you can sleep late on Saturday, play your onling RPG or whatever else you consider to be good? And why the hell would I want to conserve daylight hours? I'd rather have the night hours. Sleeping in the morning gives you more hours to be awake at night. For that matter, why go to work early when you can go to work late? There's less traffic at 7pm too, ya know and those Simpsons reruns... Tivo catches those for you. I'm all for sticking to black and grey as a means of getting matching clothes but taking a woman shopping is the opposite of saving time. When I go shopping with a woman, I feel like getting out of the car and painting a red X in the road to remind others where I encountered missing time. Women are, in fact, the primary drive for such portable devices that do things like time-shift talk radio. This allows you to actually do something useful or enjoyable while waiting for women to get ready or shop for something.

    2. Re:Other ways to timeshift (not just audio) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Let a woman take you clothes shopping [...]

      This phrase doesn't belong within a mile of a topic about saving time. Ever.

    3. Re:Other ways to timeshift (not just audio) by October_30th · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Reading /. and posting here is also a veritable time-sink.

      I'd like to point out that you can avoid traffic also by going late to work and heading home late in the evening or even at night. It'll work fine, if your employer is flexible (i.e. trusts that you do you job even when the boss is not around) and especially if you live in an urban area where you can get food 24h/day.

      I used to start working at 11 am and work late into the night. I can't get anything useful done before 10 am and I'm at my peak performance somewhere around 4-5 pm, but these days I have to drag myself to work by 9 am. Thank you very much, you morning people who insist on scheduling meetings early in the morning.

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      The owls are not what they seem
    4. Re:Other ways to timeshift (not just audio) by orim · · Score: 5, Interesting

      "Don't sleep in on weekends. Get up at your regular time instead of 11am and you have effectively doubled the number of hours of daylight you get on each weekend day. God I love to sleep in so I hate this one."

      Back in '99, I got a job where I can show up any time between 9 and 11, and as long as I work my 8 hours, the bosses are happy.
      If I'm working on something late, or if I have tennis practice later at night... you know, something that makes me extra-tired, I just sleep in the next morning, as long as I feel it's necessary...
      The result?

      On the weekends, I tend to get up earlier than on the weekdays. I think it's getting better sleep because there is no knowledge of having to go to work the next day... and also the fact that I'm pretty *rested* already with the flex schedule that I have.

      If you feel like sleeping in on the weekends, maybe you should - your body is trying to tell you it needs more rest. Listen to it!
      What good is an extra hour of being awake if you're just going to zombie through the next 15?

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      "If you could only see what I've seen with your eyes..." - Roy Batty
    5. Re:Other ways to timeshift (not just audio) by misterpies · · Score: 5, Insightful


      These suggestions are totally half baked. Viz:

      " Rearrange your work schedule so you start at 7am and get off at 3pm or 4pm. By hitting the streets at semi- off hours you will cut your commute time by possibly half (less traffic.)"

      Better solution: find a place to live within 5 minute's walk of work or subway ride. Then you will save on your commute time and not have to get up early. If there is no subway and no residential neighborhoods near work, dump suburbia and move to a proper city. What's the point of freeing up all that time if you're stuck in Boonsville?

      "By hitting your seat at 7am when the office is empty and quiet you can get more productive sooner, and get more done between 7am and 9am than most people have done by noon."

      This only makes sense if you don't work closely with other people. If you do, you'll spend 2 hours from 7 to 9 waiting for the others to get in. If you can work for hours without needing to ask anyone else for anything, then ask your boss if you can work from home part-time.

      "Let a woman take you clothes shopping, throw out everything in your closet and replace it with whatever she suggests. Make sure everything matches everything else. Time saved : none, but nobody will know you got dressed in the dark before you had caffeine in your system."

      Wear a suit to work. You can wear the same suit everyday, with the same tie and a range of identical shirts, and no-one will think it odd.

      "Don't sleep in on weekends. Get up at your regular time instead of 11am and you have effectively doubled the number of hours of daylight you get on each weekend day."

      That may be true, but what's the point? Surely a big reason for saving time where it's not needed is to give you more relaxation time, not less.

      "Get your news from FARK (www.fark.com) In the hour it takes to watch the news on TV you could have a synopsis of the important events around the globe from a hundred different news sources. If it is newsworthy, it's on FARK."

      Listen to the radio news while doing other things. Try NPR and you might even learn something. Alternatively, admit that for 99.99% of what's reported, there's no reason why you need to know it straight away. So just catch up with the news weekly instead of daily.

      "Cancel your MMORPG accounts (stop playing Everquest). This will give you back 1000 hours per year. Maybe more."

      And stop reading slashdot. That will save even more.

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    6. Re:Other ways to timeshift (not just audio) by Titusdot+Groan · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Morning people? I'm a morning person and if you think I like to waste the most productive hours of my day in meetings ...

      I think it's the sadists that schedule morning meetings -- gets the night owls up too early and interrupts the flow of the morning persons work day; everybody is surly.

  16. Timeshifting vs. Prioritizing by PyroJimmy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why are we trying to cram all this stuff into our lives? When you multitask your entertainment, all it does is take some of the pleasure out of it. I'd rather *read* a single book in two months and really take it in than squeeze 8 of them into the little gaps of time during the day.

    I subscribe to the field of thought that it's better to make priorities of what makes you happiest and go after a few of them full bore in the spare time you have, rather than spend a little time with each of them and get nowhere. Accept the fact that you can't possibly do everything you want, and take seriously the things you *can* do.

  17. BBC already timeshifts and streams for you! by evilandi · · Score: 5, Informative
    The BBC already provides on-demand streams of the last episodes of all Radio 4 programmes, with highlights also available for the World Service and Five Live. Four, Five & WS are speech-based stations; there are also highlights available for the music stations. Sadly there is as yet no archive streaming for their new audio station BBC 7, which broadcasts comedy & drama repeats.

    It's RealAudio, not Shoutcast, but hey, you can't have everything.

    This kind of power gives you interesting abilities. For instance, on my friends mailing list we were joking around pinpointing the exact second at which ex-minister Clare Short realised quite what she'd done by exposing UK spying activity against the UN on the Radio 4 interview this morning.

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  18. Time != money by jukervin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "He who thinks time is money understands neither time nor money"

    How do you save time? How do you set aside 10 minutes a day to save for a summer holiday? Where do you deposit it? How can you make a redrawal?

    "Saving time" means usually just how to make more things in same amount of time ie. to be more efficient. But do you have more time? I don't think so. With all the timesaving gadgets and tips people just feel busier than ever and that they don't have enough time. We westerners often consider time to be something that is useful only if it is spent some how productively. In some other culture time is something we create by doing nothing.

    I recommend reading Tyranny of the Moment: Fast and Slow Time in the Information Age by Thomas Hylland Eriksen

    "The turn of the millennium is characterized by exponential growth in everything related to communication - from the Internet and email to air travel. "The Tyranny of the Moment" deals with some of the most perplexing paradoxes of this new information age. Who would have expected that apparently timesaving technology results in time being scarcer than ever? And has this seemingly limitless access to information led to confusion rather than enlightenment?

    Thomas Eriksen argues that slow time - private periods where we are able to think and correspond coherently without interruption - is now one of the most precious resources we have, and it is becoming a major political issue. Since we are now theoretically "online" 24 hours a day, we must fight for the right to be unavailable - the right to live and think more slowly. It is not only that working hours have become longer - Eriksen also shows how the logic of this new information technology has, in the space of just a few years, permeated every area of our lives. This is equally true for those living in poorer parts of the globe usually depicted as outside the reaches of the information age, as well as those in the West.

    Exploring phenomena such as the world wide web, WAP telephones, multi-channel television and email, "Tyranny of the Moment" examines this new, nonlinear and fragmented way of communicating to reveal the effect it has on working conditions in the new economy, changes in family life and, ultimately, personal identity. Eriksen argues that a culture lacking a sense of its past, and therefore of its future, is effectively static. Although solutions are suggested, he demonstrates that there is no easy way out. " - Book description from Amazon

  19. Time shifting your whole life? by oneiros27 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well, the basic concept of time shifting is to put yourself in the control of when you want to do things. So, in that regard, it shouldn't be to difficult to move some of the more restrictive items to times when they're convenient for you. Work It's a pain in the ass, we all know it. Ask your supervisor for flex time, or work from home If that doesn't work, start your own business, so that you can set your own hours Commute This is basically related to work, so see above. Alternatively, you can move closer to work, or just start sleeping under your desk. School For you, assuming you're an adult, you can attend distance learning classes in place of the regular college curriculum, or you can look to see if there are schools in your area that focus in adult education. You could start working for a university, as they tend to be flexible in allowing staff members to attend classes, and they're nearby, saving you from the need for seperate travel time. [you'll have to coordinate with your potential manager to make sure it's okay] For your children, you can use home schooling, so you don't have to worry about when their tests and vacations are when you're planning family trips. Relationship Let's face it, dating, marriage, or whatever is another major waste of time. You have two major options -- make enough money so that your SO doesn't have to work, and can be at your every beck and call, or soliciting prostitutes. Shopping With Amazon and other online retailers, there's no reason to go out shopping anymore. If you're not in an area supported by Peapod or a similar organization, you're going to have to find some place online that sells MREs. Food Between Shwanns, MREs, and a microwave, meal perperation shouldn't take more than a few minutes. Consumption, however, is another waste of time, and so I would suggest only buying mushy foods, to save on chewing. You may wish to switch to a diet high on Ensure, Carnation Instant Breakfast, and/or Slimfast [is there anyone still reading this?] Bathroom Breaks MREs prove salt peter which may allow you to time shift your bathroom breaks. You can also try Depends, or other incontience aids. [not quite to the punchline yet] Sleeping Doctors may recommend 10 hrs per night, but let's be serious -- 3L of Mt. Dew per day, and you can easily cut that back to 4hrs, so long as you perform relatively sedentary tasks for those 6 hrs that you lose, such as watching TV or playing video games. [are you still reading?] Friends Provided that you started your own company, you can then hire your friends to work with you, so you can get all of that companionship crap done while you're still at work, eliminating the need to waste time with extraneous interaction. [It's not that good of a joke] If you're an extrovert, and still have a need for other interaction, you're their boss, and can pressure them to do whatever you want, and/or hire extra yes-men to replace them. [it's rather dark humor, too] Life Unfortunately, I don't have a solution for this one, other than hoping that there really is reincarnation, and when you want a break, killing yourself, so that you can just come back to it later, when you have more time. However, if that one doesn't work, you're pretty much SOL, but the bright side, is you won't really notice that it didn't work, as you'll be dead. [hey, I told you it was dark, damnit] Now for the real advice -- get a life. Take up a hobby. Quit your job. Do something, but don't try to burn out early. I've already done that -- twice. There are things you can do to remove wasted time, but there are times when we really just need to relax, and do nothing important. [and that's what we have American sitcoms for -- no thought required, and no redeeming qualities]

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