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Microsoft Plans WinXP "Reloaded"

An anonymous reader writes "Looks like Microsoft changed their minds and are planning a new OS release before Longhorn. They are calling it XP Reloaded."

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  1. I wonder... by Pingular · · Score: 5, Interesting

    if this OS will have full 64bit compatiablity? As if it doesn't it could seriously slow down 64bit sales, as I for one was waiting for Longhorn to upgrade to 64bit, and I know a lot of my friends were.

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  2. Software Assurance by Bull999999 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My guess is that the Longhorn will not be out soon enough for those who bought XP under software assurance program. By having a forced update out, MS can claim that the software assurance program is indeed a good buy.

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  3. Re:Gotta keep the upgrade revenues... by stratjakt · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Nope, sounds more like 98SE to me (that one was free, btw).

    Real big architectural changes a-coming (64 bit CPUs, PCI-X, BTX (more of a form factor but i believe ties into OS controlled temp and whatnot), etc..), and the current OS doesn't support them, and the next OS is too far off.

    I wouldnt be surprised if they merged the 64bit and 32bit code trees, or something of the sort.

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  4. Which just goes to show... by Xoder · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ... that Longhorn will be even more delayed. As others in the thread have noted, this is exactly what happened with 95 (B and C) and 98SE and ME's entire reason for existance.

    Today we have learned that "new intermediate version" means "omigod, I am up to my eyeballs in delays, and I don't want to look like an ass to my users^W customers"

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  5. Re:Doing away with 2D acceleration? by cens0r · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Well the idea of the 3d accelerated desktop is that your video card will be able to do all the work. Considering how simple the graphics are on a 2d desktop (versus something like doom 3) i imagine almost any mediocre graphics card will speed things up immensly.

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  6. Re:OMFG ROTFLMAO ROR! by RevAaron · · Score: 5, Interesting

    but not by that much. it looks like windows reloaded really kicked some arse, though.

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  7. Re:and in other news by pantherace · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Actually what I'm thrilled about (even if others say its horribly inefficient) is the 3D accelerated desktop that is supposed to be in Longhorn, and doing away with 2D acceleration. The Mac has it, why can't we?

    Umm... the Macs don't. The macs use display pdf which can be scaled much like vector graphics that longhorn will include. However Longhorn will do almost all of that on the card (Which macs are starting to do (Quarz Extreme which still does some things in software (CPU)).

    Nor will longhorn be a '3d' desktop for the most part, instead it will be more like doing 2D acceleration in 3D spaces, which most cards cannot do efficiently. They mostly flush the render buffer for every switch & the 3D part is still seperate from the 2D portion with the end 3D buffer being blitted to the 2D buffer when it isn't full screen. The main benefit is: vector grapics (which can be done in 2D easily, (example: kde's crystal svg icons) but all 3D apis provide this accelerated if the hardware does it.) which allow smaller sized icons which can scale up & down better than bitmaps, and is useful for high resolution windows so that even if you need large things (poor eyesight) it can only look better running at higher resolution (by having the computer calculate how to display something at 200dpi to a monitor which was at 100dpi (it isn't hard, and if you don't use vector graphics, it is essentially just pixel quadrupling, however with vector grapics & aa, it looks better)

    And for anyone who doesn't think cards need a lot of ram: my current desktop is using more than 12MB, and that's only going to go up.

  8. Quartz Extreme. by RatBastard · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Look at Quartz Extreme on any AGP equippen G4 or G5 Mac. It is heavily 3D accelerated and looks 2D. The built in scaling and other acceleration tools that the 3D hardware brings to bare makes the OS extremeley snappy and responsive.

    And it's not wastefull at all. It is simply taking advantage of commonly existing hardware that didn't exist when the original 2D API was created.

    The reality is that unless you buy a Matrox card, the 2D acceleration that your video card brings to the tape hasn't improved that much at all in the last five years. The 2D core is more than good enough to do what's required of it so most video card companies don't bother expending much energy improviing things. 3D acceleration, on the other hand, has improved at rates that throttle the imagination.

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  9. The Problem with Letter Versions by Grip3n · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Alright, I believe in a couple years we're going to start seeing some serious version hell. For example, in the future how will we know what is "newer" than the other when we have:

    Windows XP
    Windows XP Reloaded
    Windows XP Revolutions
    Windows Xtreme
    Windows Xtreme Unleashed
    Windows Opposing Force
    Windows Blue Shift

    Does that stuff mean anything? No. With letter versioning and now this word versioning, to know what is newer than the next the user is just required to know. 1.0, 2.0, 3.0, it all makes logical sense. Words, unless they come up with alphabetical names (which would be kinda cool, but still limiting) mean nothing other than "this one is kinda different".

    Complie that with other pieces of software which will follow suit (Look at all the software using 2 letter naming convensions for their versioning already) and we'll have very little knowledge what version is actually what.

    Additionally, a benefit to number versioning was it allowed us to say "ok, this is 1.0, this software is really new and hasn't undergone any revisons," or "alright, this is version 3.2, they've taken a couple cracks at it and added some fixes." What if I told you I just made Gigawhop Reloaded. What the heck is that? Unless you knew the name of the software already, is it called Gigawhop or Gigawhop Reloaded as a whole? Is Reloaded actually the version? What does that even mean to me? Is it my first release? Second? Third? Tenth?

    You have been warned...

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