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Transcript of Eben Moglen's Harvard Speech

An anonymous reader writes "Groklaw has a transcript of Eben Moglen's Harvard Speech + Q&A up. Good Stuff. During the Q&A he made a good point to think about: 'We stand for free speech. We're the free speech movement of the moment. And that we have to insist upon, all the time, uncompromisingly. My dear friend, Mr. Stallman, has caused a certain amount of resistance in life by going around saying, "It's free software, it's not open source". He has a reason. This is the reason. We need to keep reminding people that what's at stake here is free speech. We need to keep reminding people that what we're doing is trying to keep the freedom of ideas in the 21st century, in a world where there are guys with little paste-it labels with price tags on it who would stick it on every idea on earth if it would make value for the shareholders. And what we have to do is to continue to reinforce the recognition that free speech in a technological society means technological free speech. I think we can do that. I think that's a deliverable message.'"

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  1. Eben Moglen resume by aacool · · Score: 5, Informative
    Eben Moglen

    1994-, Professor of Law and Legal History, Columbia Law School.(current)

    1987-94, Associate Professor of Law, Columbia Law School.

    1986-87, Law Clerk to Justice Thurgood Marshall, United States Supreme Court.

    1985-86, Law Clerk to Judge Edward Weinfeld, United States District Court, Southern District of New York.

    1984, Associate, Cravath Swaine & Moore, New York.

    1983, IBM Corporation, Armonk, New York, Associate Corporation Counsel

    1979-84, IBM Corporation, San Jose, California, Programmer/Analyst, Programming Language Research & Development

    Selected Publications

    Anarchism Triumphant: Free Software and the Death of Copyright, First Monday (August, 1999)

    The Invisible Barbecue, 97 Colum. L. Rev. 945 (1997).

    Jewishness and the American Constitutional Tradition: The Cases of Brandeis and Frankfurter (Book Review), 89 Colum. L. Rev. 959 (1989).

    Taking the Fifth: Reconsidering the History of the Privilege Against Self-Incrimination, 92 Mich. L. Rev. 1086 (1994).

  2. My favorite Quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    There is no copyright license in the United States today more fitting to Thomas Jefferson's idea of copyright or indeed to the conception of copyright contained in Article 1 Section 8, than ours. For we are pursuing an attempt at the diffusion of knowledge and the useful arts which is already proving far more effective at diffusing knowledge than all of the profit-motivated proprietary software distribution being conducted by the grandest and best funded monopoly in the history of the world.

  3. Re:Who? by squiggleslash · · Score: 5, Informative
    Eben Moglen is lead counsel for the Electronic Frontier Foundation
    He is? I can't see anything on the EFF's site to confirm that.

    He is, however, the lead counsel for the Free Software Foundation(FSF) and it is in this capacity that the quote in the article writeup is relevent.

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  4. Another great quote... by swillden · · Score: 5, Informative

    ... and one relevant to a much-debated topic here on slashdot.

    Those of us who believe in the GNU GPL as a particularly valuable license to use believe in that because we think that there are other licenses which too weakly protect the commons and which are more amenable to a form of appropriation that might be ultimately destructive -- this is our concern with the freedoms presented, for example, by the BSD license

    Moglen makes a very lucid explanation of why the apparently-more-free BSD license is less valuable to people who believe in freedom. He characterizes the the world of free software as a "self-healing commons", that cannot be appropriated, or destroyed, and points out that a BSD-style commons is much more vulnerable to being "proprietized".

    The really interesting parts of his talk, though, were the bits about open hardware and radio spectrum, and their implications on technological free speech, and of course his extensive and detailed explanation of why he thinks the free software battle is essentially already won.

    Even if you don't agree with him, Eben Moglen is a persuasive speaker with very deep and powerful ideas. Very well worth reading/listening to.

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  5. Re:Confusing the issue by Communomancer · · Score: 5, Informative

    For those of you too "young" to remember, it was the "open source" advocates (Eric "ESR" Raymond leading the charge) that, imo, muddied the waters in the first place. The driving notion was that in order to find acceptance in the commercial marketplace (as if that were the holy grail we should all be shooting for), "Free Software" had to change its name and its image, because nobody whose job depended on it would ever use something that was "free". So, they created (and indeed trademarked) the moniker "Open Source Software".

    I'm not saying that their methods were not in line with their goals (though I always had reservations about the goals themselves). Name makes a difference in the image. Which is exactly the point that Eben is making in his speech when he advocates not forgetting the "Free" part.

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  6. Re:Free as in "profit is evil", re: Stallman by JimDabell · · Score: 5, Informative

    Stallman unambiguously made it clear that he considers making money from software to be *bad*, period.

    It's very strange that you can't back this claim up, especially as Stallman and the FSF have made money by selling GNU software.

    In fact, you can order GNU software directly from the FSF right now.

    In fact, why not read what the FSF have to say on the matter straight from their own website:

    Actually we encourage people who redistribute free software to charge as much as they wish or can.

  7. Re:Free as in "profit is evil", re: Stallman by ryants · · Score: 5, Informative
    I really need to find it again so that I can post the exact reference when needed. In that rant, Stallman unambiguously made it clear that he considers making money from software to be *bad*, period.
    I'll take this (Selling Free Software) over your hazy recollections and rants any day.
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  8. real history of term "open source" by thomas_klopf · · Score: 5, Informative

    According to "Rebel Code - Linux and the Open Source Revolution" by Glyn Moody (chap. 10), the term "Open Source" was coined in Winter/Spring 1998 (February 3rd?). Eric Raymond initiated the search for a term for this "free software" coming out, and later "open source" was decided upon. It seems they were looking for something less ambigious and more business-friendly than "free software". The term itself was originally suggested by Christine Peterson of the Foresight Institute.

    regarding Stallman (quoting from the book)

    "Richard Stallman always viewed this shift [from terms like 'free software' to 'open source'] with alarm. 'The open source movement is Eric Raymond's attempt to redirect the free software movement away from a focus on freedom,' he says. 'He does not agree that freedom to share software is an ethical/social issue. So he decided to try to replace the term 'free software' with another term, one that would in no way call to mind that way of framing the issue."

    So it seems that, historically, there is something of a difference between "open source" and "free software"