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Creative Commons Moving Images Winners

ArcRiley writes "The winners have been announced for the contest that Creative Commons launched last fall to deliver their ``some rights reserved'' message with a short video. Congratulations to Justin Cone, Sheryl Seibert, and Kuba & Alek Tarkowski for their winning videos!"

99 comments

  1. oscars by Capt'n+Hector · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Not to be confused with those other awards being handed out right now... By the way, I just love how the techies get their own little Oscar ceremony, complete with Jennifer Garner. It's almost as if they're teasing us nerds with women of such calibre.

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  2. Re:Holy shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Grampa: [gasp] The pictures! They're coming... alive!

  3. Now to get this kind of stuff out in the public by lavalyn · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Too bad it's impossible considering how television is financed and broadcast. It'd be such an irony to see these videos (they're pretty good) broadcast over HDTV, with the no-copy flag on.

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    1. Re:Now to get this kind of stuff out in the public by iswm · · Score: 3, Interesting

      There's always the grassroots method. But then again, the media is just so controling now it's hard to get something such as a grassroots campaign to have any major influence on anything. Oh well.

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    2. Re:Now to get this kind of stuff out in the public by LostCluster · · Score: 1, Redundant

      If the time limit was set to 30 seconds, I'm pretty sure some webstreams at least might pick up the ads as PSAs. However, it's impossible for a for-profit TV station to use these with the Non-Commercial and Share-Alike bits of the CC license being used. At least nobody went for the No Derivative Works flag to prohibit mocking them... :)

    3. Re:Now to get this kind of stuff out in the public by notsoclever · · Score: 1

      It depends on how you interpret "non-commercial." I think that broadcasting it as a PSA wouldn't count as "commercial" since it's not being used for profit by the TV station; in my interpretation, "non-commercial" just means "not sold for money."

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  4. Marketing by gid13 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It seems to me that this will only matter when one of two things happens.
    1. Heavy promotion of creative commons-licensed material happens somehow.
    2. There is a severe crackdown on copyrighted file-sharing to the point that few or none feel comfortable doing it.

    I can't see 1 happening ever. 2, on the other hand, may be beginning. Personally, though, I think the better way to address this is just to allow copyrighted file-sharing.

  5. Are they actually playable? by H4x0r+Jim+Duggan · · Score: 3, Informative

    Before I download the files (over a 56k dialup), does anyone know if the .mov files are actually playable with a Free Software player?

    I'd expect Lessig to mandate that this commons content be in a non-proprietary format - or at the very least, a proprietary format that has been widely reverse engineered. Playing .mov files is hit and miss for me. sometimes no sound, or the picture appears in the top right corner of the viewer, or... Anyway: can someone confirm/deny that these are viewable? thanks.

    1. Re:Are they actually playable? by ArcRiley · · Score: 5, Informative

      Got one better for you. The second place video, "Mixtape", is available in Ogg Theora format here courtesy her brother (who's involved with Xiph). If anyone can get the first video to play please publish how. I've been unable to get it to play with either MPlayer or Xine.

    2. Re:Are they actually playable? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      They play without a hitch in Media Player Classic.

      -- paper

    3. Re:Are they actually playable? by Xanlexian · · Score: 3, Informative

      If you're using Windows Media Player, you can download the quicktime codec (as well as Real) from here:

      http://a3.edskes.com/quicktimealt122.exe

      Quicktime

      http://a1.edskes.com/r/realalt111.exe

      Real

      --Xan

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    4. Re:Are they actually playable? by Hooded+One · · Score: 1

      This is the first Theora file I've tried, but it doesn't seem to be too hot quality-wise. I sort of hoped for more, but I will grant that it's still alpha.

      I can't get the first one to play at all either.

    5. Re:Are they actually playable? by ArcRiley · · Score: 4, Informative
      Note that these are transcoded. That means that you get the loss of the original plus the loss of Theora. A few of us put them together last minute because so many people were having trouble viewing the ones on creative common's website..

      Ogg Theora is actually very close to beta release. It's still VP3.2 with no improvements beyond adding flexibility for future improvements. The goal of this is that files made with Beta-1 will be viewable by any future player, making it suitable for archival use, but as beta's progress more optimisations will be made making it both faster and higher quality.

      Once again, the URL to download the Ogg Theora versions of these videos, for those using Free Software media players, is http://xiph.org/~arc/CreativeCommons-OggTheora.tor rent

    6. Re:Are they actually playable? by Hooded+One · · Score: 1

      Ah, ok. I should have thought it might be something along those lines.

      At any rate, the files in the torrent look a lot better. Well, things like text are blurrier, but there aren't the annoying scanline-like distortions and choppy frames. Thanks!

    7. Re:Are they actually playable? by volsung · · Score: 1

      I purposely made the Quicktime files for "Mix Tape" use MPEG4 and not Sorenson for this very reason. As many other people in this thread have pointed out, they work with mplayer as long as you have ffmpeg and faad support linked in (and you don't care about patents).

    8. Re:Are they actually playable? by volsung · · Score: 1
      One thing to keep in mind also is that the raw footage was pretty poor quality. We shot this video over the course of 5 days using a very abused DV cam that was one of the cheapest on the market 3 years ago. By all reports in various forums, it should have died a year ago.

      Fortunately, Sheryl won a better camera out of the deal, so we'll see if that improves picture quality in the future. :) (Too bad she didn't win the G5. The Final Cut render time is painfully long on her iMac.)

  6. Re:Cut Spending by Neil+Blender · · Score: 2, Funny

    Make a contest and have somebody ELSE come up with your campaign...

    Reminds me of something....what was it...oh yeah - a t-shirt contest.

  7. *Confirmed* by (1337)+God · · Score: 5, Informative

    They work fine for me (Red Hat Fedora kernel with all critical updates installed, ATI video card, Altec-Lansing sound card, etc.).

    Too bad you don't have broadband though 'cause they're fairly large.

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    1. Re:*Confirmed* by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      You're probably a really nice guy -- this is not a personal attack. However, every time I see you post I wonder if I'm supposed to care that you went Harvard and Dartmouth. I went to equally impressive schools, one of them being one on your list, but don't feel the need to tell everyone every time I post. I guess I write this post because I'd frankly be embarrassed to do so because a sig proclaiming one's pedigree is totally irrelevant to the merit of one's post. (This is not to imply that moderation value tracks the value of one's posts, just that I don't get it in your case. (and yes I know that's a fucked up sentence speaking grammatically))

      I wonder mostly, I suppose, because it's not relevant to /. posts. I guess I'm just think it's weird that you have such an egocentric sig and why we're all supposed to care. Or, if we're not, why you use your sig space to announce it.

  8. (CC) by ElliotLee · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Wow, I hadn't heard of Creative Commons before. What do they get their authority from?

    1. Re:(CC) by magnum3065 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Authority? Well, I guess you could say they get it from the people, and the copyright system. Similar the the GPL and LGPL, these are just licensed drawn up by people with knowledge of the law and an interest in promoting freedom. If you're interested in distributing a copyrighted creation and allowing other people certain freedoms in using your work, these are well-crafted licenses that aim to meet your intentions, so you don't have to learn the legalese to make your own license.

    2. Re:(CC) by LostCluster · · Score: 4, Informative

      Wow, I hadn't heard of Creative Commons before. What do they get their authority from?

      They're a self-appointed authority. But when you think about it, all of the GPL advocates are too.

      They're basically a non-profit that has the main idea that there can be many licenses that exist between full-on copyright protection and public domain, and the GPL is only one of them. Their main licenses are comprised of letting the author make four binary choices and giving them a fully written-out license that matches those decisions, and they have a few offshoot licenses as well such as one called "Founder's Copyright" which is an agreement to release your work under the public domain after 14 or 28 years of full protection instead of the 95 years that the law otherwise grants, and the CC-GPL which is the based on the official GPL with the addition of the metadata and translation features they offer with their other licenses. They also do the same with the LGPL to create the CC-LGPL

      They also advocate a metadata standard for license conditions that in the future will hopefully lead to a contrent-creator-aimed search engine that allows people to search for available works that can be dropped into their own works.

      It's really a group that understands that the GPL isn't perfect, and allows for anybody who wants to splinter from it from any good reason to create a new license that doesn't have that attribute.

    3. Re:(CC) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Wow, I hadn't heard of Creative Commons before. What do they get their authority from?

      GOD

  9. obligatory /. joke by NotAnotherReboot · · Score: 5, Funny

    And congratulations to slashdot for giving the winners huge, unexpected bills for bandwidth!

    1. Re:obligatory /. joke by LostCluster · · Score: 1

      At least Creative Commons is hosting the multi-MB .mov files on behalf of the winners. However, their own websites will be on their own...

    2. Re:obligatory /. joke by mlinksva · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Actually Ibiblio is hosting the files on behalf of CC on behalf of the winners. The files are also uploaded to the Internet Archive here here and here. IA has offered to host any CC-licensed content free of charge.

    3. Re:obligatory /. joke by SW6 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Actually Ibiblio is hosting the files on behalf of CC on behalf of the winners. The files are also uploaded to the Internet Archive here here and here. IA has offered to host any CC-licensed content free of charge.

      Am I the only person to notice the irony of Open Source films on there being encoded in propietry formats sich as Windows Media and Quicktime?

    4. Re:obligatory /. joke by volsung · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Actually, we made copies of our video in Ogg Theora format available, but Creative Commons chose not to link directly to the Mix Tape page.

  10. Use the source, luke, use the source. by cyt0plas · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A number of the clips use clips from (or at least available in the) Prelinger Archives.

    All of these videos require you to attribute their work should you build on it. It would be nice if they would provide credit to their sources as well (although, as public domain, they are not required to).

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    1. Re:Use the source, luke, use the source. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      so is it required or not?! aren't you contradicting yourself?

  11. Why did they have to pick share-alike? by LostCluster · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm a bit disappointed that two out of the three winners chose the "share-alike" attribute on their Creative Commons license.

    One of the strongest selling points the CC system has is that they're not the GPL... they offer variants that don't have the "viral clause" that requires those who use CC pieces to require that the whole work be licensed the same way. Since the strongest selling point of the CC system is that there are really sixteen CC licenses that are formed by mixing and matching four binary attributes. It's possible to insert a CC work into something that's under full copyright, and that's something the GPL just can't do. Flexablity is the whole point of CC.

    But maybe they took the flexability too far here. I'm a little surprised the contest organizers left the free selection of CC licenses open to the entrants. I would have suggested that all entries be under a CC license with Attribution and No Derivative Works... therefore allowing anybody who wants to spread the word of Creative Commons to republish the essentially PSA ad works without dictating what the publisher has to do with theirs.

    Afterall, the winners got some pretty cool stuff. They've been well paid for their work...

    1. Re:Why did they have to pick share-alike? by qtp · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm a little surprised the contest organizers left the free selection of CC licenses open to the entrants.

      Considering the motivation behind the Creative Commons organisation, I'd be a little surpirised if they didn't.

      Besides, to license the "Mix Tape" video under anything other than a ShareAlike license would have been a little too ironic.

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    2. Re:Why did they have to pick share-alike? by Landaras · · Score: 2, Informative
      From the original poster:

      It's possible to insert a CC work into something that's under full copyright, and that's something the GPL just can't do.

      Minor quibble, but it's important enough to be stated. GPL'd works are under full copyright (to use your phrase). There are simply certain additional, relatively major rights that are granted if you accept certain additional, relatively minor responsibilities.

      You are still welcome and encouraged to ignore the GPL and use the standard rights that are granted under copyright whenever you receive GPL'd software. You simply will not be able to use the additional rights (such as freer redistribution or modification) that the GPL grants by leveraging its own "full copyright."

      - Neil Wehneman
    3. Re:Why did they have to pick share-alike? by Daniel+Quinlan · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I'm surprised you're upset about share-alike and not at all annoyed by the non-commercial restrictions on the movies. Given the large number of activities that can be interpreted as commercial, it seems like the far more restrictive attribute, one not even found in the GPL.

      I think the true genius of the GPL is that it helped move hordes of developers who were formerly in the "non-commercial shareware" camp into the far more productive and revolutionary "share-alike" camp (with no non-commercial attribute). That is, I believe a large number of developers who were not and would not be satisfied with a BSD-style license fell back on simplistic "non-commercial use" licenses and often did not share source code. The GPL gave them an outlet which at the end of the day is a very fair compromise and improves the commons much more.

      Finally, the thing that makes GNU, Linux, and other GPL projects (along with other open source licenses, to be sure) competitive with entirely proprietary projects is that commercial use is not restricted. When commercial use is disallowed, then companies (and their employees who often work on open source in their free time so they can apply it at work) have no incentive to invest time and energy in a project.

    4. Re:Why did they have to pick share-alike? by LostCluster · · Score: 1

      Minor quibble, but it's important enough to be stated. GPL'd works are under full copyright (to use your phrase). There are simply certain additional, relatively major rights that are granted if you accept certain additional, relatively minor responsibilities.

      That's not the way that CC defines "full copyright". CC likes to call all of their licenses (of which the GPL is one of them, with extra surronding features in a package they call CC-GPL) as a copyright with "some rights reserved" as compared to somebody with a copyright claiming that they have "all rights reserved".

      All of the CC licenses are basically of the form you can do "X, Y or Z" so long as you don't do "A, B and C". If you need more rights or less restrictions than the one they're offering for free, you can contact the author to buy another license.

    5. Re:Why did they have to pick share-alike? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nitpick: there are only 11 different licenses; No Derivative Works and Share Alike are mutually exclusive.

    6. Re:Why did they have to pick share-alike? by Stallmanite · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "Since the strongest selling point of the CC system is that there are really sixteen CC licenses that are formed by mixing and matching four binary attributes"

      Actually there are only 11 licenses because some of those binary attributes are incompatible. Like "share-alike", which is what they call copyleft, the "viral" part of the GPL, which forces derivative works to have the same license; and "noDerivs" which forbids derivative works completely.

      If copyleft "infects" derivative works, then noDerivs aborts them. It doesn't make any sense to get upset about one, but not the other, unless you're a troll or just resent the GPL for some reason.

      Their "strongest selling point" can be a weakness because CC licenses are incompatible with each other.

    7. Re:Why did they have to pick share-alike? by volsung · · Score: 3, Informative

      In our case (Mix Tape), we selected the Share-Alike license because that was the license selected by Jim's Big Ego for the "Mix Tape" song we used. That made our choice pretty straightforward.

    8. Re:Why did they have to pick share-alike? by theBigEgo · · Score: 1

      Guilty here - Jim from the band Jim's Big Ego. We presented our entire cd under - Share Alike Attribution NonCommercial License. Then I think I put Mix Tape up alone under Share Alike Attribution only - I used to think music and software were sort of the same - but as the discussion ripens, I don't think they are any more. I think loops and beats are, but not so much whole songs. - Jim

  12. The 2nd and 3rd Ones by magnum3065 · · Score: 4, Informative

    worked for me. Unfortunately the 1st place entry crashed both Mplayer and Totem.

    1. Re:The 2nd and 3rd Ones by dieman · · Score: 5, Informative

      You'll need to use '-vc qtsvq3'

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  13. Field order by Hoplite3 · · Score: 2, Informative

    It looks like all of the clips have the wrong field order in their interlacing leading to jaggies around moving objects.

    Anyway, I really liked the third place entry more than the second. It had a lot more information, if a bit fast paced. I found the second place entry confusing with loud lyrics and text on the screen simultaniously.

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    1. Re:Field order by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think that's intended as a ghetto visual effect.

    2. Re:Field order by volsung · · Score: 2, Informative

      No, I think it was a result of either me not knowing what to do with the MPEG4 codec in Final Cut, or the awful output of our cheap DV cam.

  14. MIRROR by parkanoid · · Score: 3, Informative

    Here's a (hopefully) fast mirror for your enjoyment:
    One
    Two
    Three

    (Should finish uploading in a sec, be patient)

  15. 0-day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does anyone have 0-day screeners of these movies for download? Oh, wait...

  16. Bring on the artists by nmoog · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Spend 10 minutes talking to an artist about OSS ideas and you have a OSS supporter. Art wants to be free. Software wants to be free. What a happy combination.

    Now, we need to get those converted artists and get them making linux a little easier on the eyes! Although, you'd want to be careful about which artists helped out....

    1. Re:Bring on the artists by bcrowell · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Spend 10 minutes talking to an artist about OSS ideas and you have a OSS supporter.
      Interesting that this is your experience with artists. My experience with musicians is just the opposite. They can't seem to think outside the Napster/Kazaa box. To them, free==piracy.

    2. Re:Bring on the artists by nmoog · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yes, well there are musicians and there are musicians who are artists. You'd have to consider which type of musicians you have encountered in your experience.

      Metallica has spoken out about their views of free==piracy, where has Aphex Twin has spoken out and said he couldnt give a shit if you took his whole album and released it under a different name. Not all musicians are artists. (and to be fair, not all artists are any good :)

    3. Re:Bring on the artists by LostCluster · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The way to explain the Creative Commons system to a music artist is this: There are other artists out there who need source material to use in their works, but don't have the money to pay you right now. If you release your song under a CC Attribution and No Commercial Use license, fans can listen to you and movie makers might be able to include you in their early films. However, if that movie maker finally gets a hit and wants to make money with their early film that used you, they've got to come back to you and buy the rights then. If a radio station wants to play your song, they have to at least contact you to get your permission. It's giving other artists at the same level a way to audition for partners so that a collective work.

      Record labels angle to get their artists into movies not for the royalty money, but because being used in a hit movie can bring attention to an otherwise unknown artist. Artists perform for free on talk shows to promote themselves. If you're not bundled in with something somebody's already paying attention to, how's anybody going to notice you?

      Of course, the closed label-system presently shuns anybody who has already distributed their work by bypassing them because they fear the first recording star who launches into the "big time" without a label contract...

    4. Re:Bring on the artists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Ah. So whether somebody is an "artist" demands on their views of the "freedom" of their work rather than the quality of the art they create?

      This would disqualify, oh, I dunno, Michaelangelo, from the title of "artist."

      Just because you, as a short-term-thinking consumer only have a personal interest in paying less for somebody's hard work doesn't mean that somebody who would like to both a) produce that work for you and b) eat is not an artist.

  17. Runs on Zope by Gunfighter · · Score: 1

    The egovos.org site is powered by Zope. Let's see how she stands up to a Slashdotting. Any bets?

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    1. Re:Runs on Zope by Gunfighter · · Score: 1

      whoops.... wrong article.

      Was supposed to go on:

      http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/02/29/2115 25 0

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  18. Yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    The first one (the best one) crashed Xine v0.9.23. I ended up playing it with MPlayer 0.90rc5-3.2.3. The other two worked fine with Xine.

    It would be nice if they were available with Ogg Theora, but it isn't ready it.

  19. Mix Tape by kjoonlee · · Score: 2, Informative

    Congratulations, to the winners! Congratulations to Sheryl Seibert for her Mix Tape movie!

    You can download the music for her video, for free, from Jim's Big E-Shop.

  20. Thanks for the Help by magnum3065 · · Score: 1

    Hey, thanks it works great now. Ah, the wonderful quirks of OSS. Fortunately there's usually someone who's had the same problem and knows how to fix it.

    1. Re:Thanks for the Help by IgnoramusMaximus · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Fuck, man, I just double click the file and it opens.

      No you dont. First you download QuickTime and make sure you got up to date codecs. Then you go clicking on things. The poster above, on the other hand, had all he needed but didnt know how to turn it on. That does not make your environment in any way superior. Just different.

      The mplayer is one of the most sophisticated and powerful media players, capable of playing so many formats on so many devices that it makes Windows based playback tools look silly by comparison. But it does require a bit of know-how.

    2. Re:Thanks for the Help by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, that requiring a bit of know-how is what makes linux apps look silly by comparison. QuickTime automatically checks and downloads updates. Playing a file - that's a simple request by the user. There's an unambiguous result that is expected, so all I should have to tell the player is that I want to play the file. The computer should do the work for me, not the other way around.

    3. Re:Thanks for the Help by Chris_Jefferson · · Score: 2, Interesting
      First you download Quicktime

      So.. mplayer just appears on your computer automagically? then you make sure you got up to date codecs

      No, QuickTime auto-updates. Can you say the same about mplayer? or do you have to go and download updates when a new version comes out?

      It is true that mplayer is powerful but like you say, it involves considerable knowhow. (and I don't know if things have got better but until recently basically involved compiling yourself whenever you wanted to install it, along with grabbing all required libraries. It's not simple). In this case I don't see how you can claim it is superiour to quicktime.

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    4. Re:Thanks for the Help by IgnoramusMaximus · · Score: 1
      If you are on Debian its as simple as:
      apt-get install mplayer
      which then goes off and downloads and installs/updates it for you. You just need a right source in your /etc/apt/sources.list. Other distributions have their RPM based packages whith their respective automatic update methods. Some come with mplayer already installed by default.

      In this case I don't see how you can claim it is superiour to quicktime.

      Unlike QuickTime which plays QuickTime formats well and the rest lousilly or not at all, mplayer plays just about any format known to man. Besides, my objection was to the mindless, condescending "I can click and it magically works" trolling which ignores the fact that just like everyone else he has to install and update QuickTime and it works only for a very specific range of things.

    5. Re:Thanks for the Help by CKW · · Score: 1

      > "...I don't see how you can claim it is superiour to quicktime"

      *Anything* is superior to a product that subverts control of my system's
      file-assocations without asking me and refuses to relinquish them. I'll
      never install quicktime again in my life.

      I don't even bother downloading quicktime movies any more, and
      I'm *fricking stunned* that the CC people would post
      this stuff using quicktime!!

    6. Re:Thanks for the Help by Mysticalfruit · · Score: 1

      Or for the redhat crowd...

      yum -y install mplayer

      Presto, your done.

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  21. Creative Commons and common media by Daniel+Quinlan · · Score: 1, Offtopic
    Since 2 of the 3 winning images are provided as an Apple QuickTime movie file, does that mean there is now an unencumbered open source QuickTime player?

    Did I miss something?

  22. Re:Ha Ha (nelson style) by martyn+s · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Sorry you don't know what you're talking about. Lost in Translation did not win, Lord of the Rings won (obviously).

  23. Re:Ha Ha (nelson style) by GileadGreene · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I don't think so. Return of the King made a clean sweep at the Oscars, taking eleven honors, including Best Picture, Best Director, Best Visual Effects, Best Costume Design, Best Makeup, and Best Sound Mixing.

  24. Wonderful quirks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You mean annoying shortcomings?

    Fuck, man, I just double click the file and it opens.

  25. very cool by sdibb · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I watched both of the movies on their website and I thought they were really cool, and explained things very well. I finally "got it" on a lot of points, as far as the effects of a standard copyright, and the flexibility that a Creative Commons License offers.

    Best of all, now when I explain this stuff to someone else, their eyes won't have to glaze over as I try to extol the merits of free (as in freedom) -- instead I can just say "Here, watch these cool three-minute videos" and that does all the work. :)

  26. Wow... that's a PR move worth of Robertson... by spectecjr · · Score: 1

    (you know, the dude behind Lindows)

    What better way to try to make yourself look important than by holding your little tiny inconsequential awards ceremony right before the Academy Awards.

    I'll give you points for chutzpah though.

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  27. Um, actually... by cubal · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yes, the Mov came from moving. But, like talkies, the ie is just a familiar kinda thing. Like, Moving Picture needed to be abbreviated, and "moov" was already taken by move, so someone was like "movie", and everyone was like "dude".

    Um yeah...

  28. The first one isn't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    The first one uses some form of sorensen codec that crashes every free software player I've tried it on (mplayer, xine, and videolan).

    But don't blame Mr. Cone or Creative Commons, blame Xiph for not getting Ogg Theora finished yet.

  29. Movie Summaries? by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 1
    I'm having difficulties getting a fast connection from the site (surprise surprise). Can somebody please give in depth summaries of all three so that we can have some idea whats worth downloading? Thanks.

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  30. I don't get what you're complaining about. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Share-Alike is less restrictive than- "dictate[s] what the publisher has to do" less than- No Derivatives does (since it grants the additional right to create cc-sa'd derivative works). ShareAlike is a simple copyleft, not a viral one; you can distribute cc-sa works with proprietary works.

    The surprise, as others have pointed out, is that they were under non-commercial licenses. It would seem more natural to say "if people want to sell this video and spread the word, more power to them."

  31. Wow. by Atario · · Score: 1

    I didn't think it was possible to miss the point by that much. Please go to creativecommons.org and read. And don't just say you did.

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  32. you're all wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    > if you don't believe in copyrights

    People can choose to believe in easter bunnies, santa, and god, but copyrights exist - like it or not.

    > you can just put it out there with no license at all

    All works of an author give the author exclusive rights - if you recieve something without a license, you have no legal right to make a copy for your friend (etc.)

    The CC people *do* believe in copyright - they just believe that it's been stretched out of proporation (either in term/years - or in scope/what you can or cannot do with a work).

  33. Re:lol, crashed your players? by IgnoramusMaximus · · Score: 1
    They all work flawlessly in QuickTime on OS X. Get a real platform, bub.

    You mean get the platform on which the clips were made? Why would anyone encode anything in .mov format if it were not coming from a Mac? So "real" means "the only one that easilly plays that weirdo format" because thats what the artist happened to use? I have nothing against Macs but this sort of attitude is laughable. What if some of the Linux based artists started encoding everything in ELF based executables? Should I then go around dispatching snide remarks about all those other people not being able to play them easy? The whole point is to use a format that majority can play with no special codecs or other crap. I have to question the Creative Commons' choice of media formats here for it only produces this sort of assholery from platform supermacists.

  34. Good to see... by Trogre · · Score: 1

    ...that commercial outfits are starting to crop up that take advantage of the CC licence's flexibility.

    I only hope we'll start seeing more places like this, and they'll rise in popularity.

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  35. Wow by Agret · · Score: 1

    The winner easily deserved to win, the other 2 were way below the level of quality. I did not not like the third one at all and didn't quite understand the second one.

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  36. 'Fall' by zsau · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Seasons describe weather conditions, and differ around the world. Time is described using words like 'Monday' or 'January', and are constant (at least in secular english-speaking contexts). I shouldn't need to know what continent you're on...

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  37. Free Software playable versions of videos avail. by ArcRiley · · Score: 5, Informative
    We just put together a set of videos (transcoded, so lower quality than origs) for those who don't want to use non-free software to view them. You'll need a BitTorrent client and a fairly recent (post-November) copy of libtheora, as they're encoded with Ogg Theora.

    This one .torrent will download all three videos and a README explaining how to view them.

  38. The right to copy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I see patents as a bigger threat. Copyrights are about ownership of something physical you created, and it doesn't harm anyone if you want to decide what can be done with YOUR work.

    Patents takes it way too far, claiming ownership of an idea, which of course was derived from another idea.

    I find hope in CC, at least it's a great step in the right direction for once (they've been around for a while). There's a reason for them to exist, and a few generations later we'll be even closer, as more people are made aware of them.

    The way the law handles things now is wrong. But then again, that's a subjective thing, isn't it.

    As for the videos... Yeah, they were good. But I thought the winning entry could do without the American flag, as this is a global issue. The other entries could benefit from de-interlacing.

    Why so few comments on this? This is important.

    1. Re:The right to copy. by vegetablespork · · Score: 1

      But patents at least expire. Copyrights these days are perpertual, thanks to Sonny Bono. Thank goodness for that tree, or who knows what worse intellectual "property" laws he would have sold to his buddies in Hollywood.

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  39. Open Media for Linux PDAs? by wehe · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The CreativeCommons GetContent page contains a huge list of media. But what I am looking for is content, which fits to a Linux PDA like the SHARP Zaurus series. Are there eBooks, AudioBooks and movies, especially designed for small computers? BTW: Though there are many sites, which offer free mobile cell phone logos and ringtones, are there any logos and ringtones available under the Creative Common Licenses or the GPL?

  40. Automatic updates? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ha, I laugh at your pitiful applications trying to update themselves.

    apt-get update
    apt-get dist-upgrade

    Or if those 2 lines are too hard to remember you can always use Synaptic and click 2 buttons. Now, every application on my system is up to date, not just a few where the programmers put the effort into downloading updates.

  41. Suggestion for "Mix Tape" by JoeShmoe · · Score: 1

    Catchy song, but I must confess I didn't get the video at all at first. I had to watch it two or three times before I realized the common element in the various scenes was thepair of jeans). So I'm guessing the "message" of the video was something along the lines of "What if music/media was as easy to buy/sell/rip/mix/reuse as old denim"??

    Anyway, I think the message would be much more clear if the video was done in black-and-white with the denim the only thing in color. Then it would be easier to follow it through its various lifecycle...worn by girl in the beginning, sold at garage sale, turned into outfit, thrown away, made into paper. (In Schindler's List, few people would have recognized the dead body was the same little girl if Spielburg hadn't used the red color)

    If I had any sort of talent with video editing, the temptation would be to do this myself, and well I guess the CC license that it is under would allow me to, wouldn't it?

    -JoeShmoe
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    1. Re:Suggestion for "Mix Tape" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I kind of like the fact that people have to watch my video over and over again to catch all its meaning. Your suggestion is interesting though. By all means, re-edit. I think that would be great to see.
      (Sheryl Seibert is the anonymous coward here) :)

    2. Re:Suggestion for "Mix Tape" by volsung · · Score: 1
      Yes, the video is released under the Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike License, so you can remix this to improve it. I'm checking with Sheryl as to whether she is okay with me offering the 2 GB raw DV format version of Mix Tape (720x480 resolution) to people who want to remix. That way you avoid adding even more compression artifacts to the video.

      Given the file size and low number of interested users, I would probably have to send people DVD-Rs in exchange for some nominal fee to cover media and postage costs. Of course, that might violate the non-commercial clause, so maybe we would have to do it some other way. Anyone interested in the source should email me, and I'll see what we can work out.

    3. Re:Suggestion for "Mix Tape" by notsoclever · · Score: 1

      Look into Freecache.

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  42. I hate to say it but... by CGP314 · · Score: 1

    Anyone else get the feeling that there weren't many people who entered? I love creative commons, but I do not think that these videos are very impressive.

    -Colin

  43. Proofread? by Apro+im · · Score: 1

    Hmm - are these going to be aired as ads or anything? If so, they should probably fix the fact that they meant "lets", not "let's" in the first one...