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Feds Reject Eolas Browser Plug-In Patent

theodp writes "The USPTO has issued a preliminary decision invalidating Eolas' claim to Web browser technology central to a case against Microsoft, which could save the software giant more than half a billion dollars in damages. If upheld, this also means Microsoft will not be required to make changes that would have crippled IE's ability to work with plug-ins like QuickTime and Flash. Eolas has 60 days to respond to the decision. The USPTO has only invalidated 151 patents out of nearly 4 million patents awarded since 1988."

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  1. Good news, bad news by jimbolaya · · Score: 5, Interesting
    This is good news, bad news for Microsoft.

    [this] could save the software giant more than half a billion dollars in damages

    That's the good news.

    Microsoft will not be required to make changes that would have crippled IE's ability to work with plug-ins like QuickTime and Flash.

    That's the bad news.

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    1. Re:Good news, bad news by Helvick · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The other good news is that the W3C's submission demonstrating that this should have been nullified due to prior art seem to have been listened to.

  2. I'm siding with Microsoft ... by d00ber · · Score: 5, Funny


    ... on this one.

    ...Agghhhh... Can't breathe... ..

    This patent for browser plugins should have been shot down. All browsers (and many other apps) use this idea in some form and even though Eolas seemed to have a soft side for Free browsers it still sets a bad precedent to have bad patents unchallenged.

  3. No, more likely by blue_adept · · Score: 5, Insightful

    they'll continue to only reject patents owned by individuals when they annoy a multibillion dollar corporation

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    1. Re:No, more likely by Zeinfeld · · Score: 5, Interesting
      they'll continue to only reject patents owned by individuals when they annoy a multibillion dollar corporation

      Actually this is the main pain point.

      Patents held by companies that do business are not generally a problem. IBM and Microsoft both own a metric shit-load of patents and they don't cause a tenth of the problems that Doyle/Eolas type individual 'inventors' do.

      OK Microsoft has a patent on encoding document files in XML format. Does anyone really think that they would try to enforce it? The prior art is called HTML. The only logical reason for filing that patent and many of the other recent ones is to stop a would-be Doyle doing the same.

      If you think the Eolas situation is sick take a look at Lemelson, over a billion dollars extorted through a completely worthless claim. The old crook's widow bribed MIT to start an 'inventor's prize' to burnish his name. To their everlasting shame MIT took the cash.

      It would be much better if the USPTO would do its job and reject the crap. One of the issues I face as an architect is that a patent holder can often play stupid games when we are agreeing a standard. It gives unfair leverage. So I end up having to file patents to stop other people doing the same to me, now I have the unfair leverage.

      In about two months time there is going to be a slashdot story accusing me of all sorts of stuff because I patented every idea I could think of to stop spam. But it is the only tool I have to stop some other person doing it.

      At least I know that my employer has a big interest in making the ideas unencumbered and is in no danger of being taken over or going under. But there is always the danger of a SCO type situation. SCO would never have tried the desperation suit against IBM if they still had a viable business.

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  4. bittersweet? by Sylvius · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As exciting as it is that the patent office has done this, I can't help but be suspicious that it has a heck of a lot to do with MS's lobbying power and less to do with some sudden fundamental gain of basic common sense in the patent office.

    Time will tell whether the patent office will be willing to look reasonably at other ridiculous patents, or just ones that could cost behemoths like microsoft some money.

  5. The irony... by blorg · · Score: 5, Funny
    From the USPTO help section:

    If you want to download the full pages of a patent from the USPTO, "you must install and use a browser plug-in..."

  6. Not that great... by jeffmock · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Let's face it, this is really just another example of how that patent system is now geared to protect bigger coprporte interests and not the smaller inventors the patent system was origianally intended to protect.

    The patent office went back to review this patent because of the dollar-size of the potential damage and less to do with the legitamacy of the patent. A small company would likely never see such a consideration from the patent office.

    Instead, a smaller guy is most likely to face a crappy patent that is presumed valid until you spend $2-3M and 12-months to get to a markman ruling in a fedral lawsuit before a judge can even consider a summary judgement against a clearly bogus patent.

    Even though the odds are about 50/50 for winning if you take a patent to court, the barrier to entry is so great for a little guy that it's not usually not possible to contest a patent.

    jeff

  7. Not just IE by codefungus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    While MS may have been the target, this would have eventually affected all of us.

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  8. Re:Now for more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Can holders of patents that are subsequently invalidated sue the US Patent Office for lack of due diligence in granting the patent?

  9. Re:So I guess there isn't much hope for One Click? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I can't believe that out of 4 million patents, only 151 of them were been invalidated since 1988. Scary.

  10. I hate to side with Microsoft, but ... by rben · · Score: 5, Interesting

    When I first read this, my reaction was to side with Eolas against M$, because of Microsoft's long history of shady business practices. It also seems mighty convenient that this patent is being overturned at Microsoft's request. After reading more about it, however, I have come to the conclusion that the patent should not have been issued in the first place, especially with the W3C presenting evidence of proir art.

    The problem here is first that the patent was awarded when there was plenty of prior art that should have invalidated. We were all badly served by that decision of the USPTO.

    What is even worse, is that I doubt this patent would have been invalidated if I had challenged it, or if any small or medium-sized business had challenged it. The patent would have stayed in force until some giant corporation found it to be a nuisence.

    Lately, trying to gain control over Internet related technology has been pursued with the same kind of irresponsible single minded fervor as was demonstrated by the miners during the gold rush. Everyone is racing to stake claims on everything they can lay their hands on. It's sad that our government hasn't seen fit to review how these patents are being awarded and make the needed changes at the USPTO to insure that the patents that are given out are deserved and unlikely to be overturned in the future.

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  11. Developer IE6 lead to multiple installed versions by starvingartist12 · · Score: 5, Informative

    This update was big news for the web design community, for other reasons. The developer's edition of IE6 (which was a modified version that contained the pop-up) revealed that Windows was able to run multiple Internet Explorer versions simultaneously by merely adding a blank text file!.

    For the longest time, people thought it was impossible to run multiple versions of IE on the same machine to do testing on various browsers. It was a huge pain, and it also meant that developers were forced to use the IE version that came with the OS and not downgrade, while Netscape 4.xx to Mozilla installed fine. But now, it's possible to run IE3, IE4, IE5.01, IE5.5 SP2 and IE6 side-by-side (screenshot).