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Harlan Ellison vs. AOL Judgment Reversed

Robotech_Master writes "An appeals court has issued a decision reversing the summary judgment of a lower court that AOL qualified as a "safe harbor" under the DMCA. At issue is the fact that Ellison sent his notification of copyright violation to an email address at AOL, which AOL never received because the abuse submission address had been changed." The complete decision is available here as a PDF file; read below for an excerpt.

"AOL changed its contact e-mail address from "copyright@aol.com" to "aolcopyright@aol.com" in the fall of 1999, but waited until April 2000 to register the change with the U.S. Copyright Office. Moreover, AOL failed to configure the old e-mail address so that it would either forward messages to the new address or return new messages to their senders. In the meantime, complaints such as Ellison's went unheeded, and complainants were not notified that their messages had not been delivered. Furthermore, there is evidence in the record suggesting that a phone call from AOL subscriber John J. Miller to AOL should have put AOL on notice of the infringing activity on the particular USENET group at issue in this case, "alt.binaries.e-book." Miller contacted AOL to report the existence of unauthorized copies of works by various authors. Because there is evidence indicating that AOL changed its e-mail address in an unreasonable manner and that AOL should have been on notice of infringing activity we conclude that a reasonable trier of fact could find that AOL had reason to know of potentially infringing activity occurring within its USENET network."

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  1. Rebuttal by 2nd+Post! · · Score: 2, Informative

    From the submission blurb: Furthermore, there is evidence in the record suggesting that a phone call from AOL subscriber John J. Miller to AOL should have put AOL on notice of the infringing activity on the particular USENET group at issue in this case, "alt.binaries.e-book."

  2. Re:Unfamiliar... by AndroidCat · · Score: 5, Informative
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  3. Re:Its Usenet? by LostCluster · · Score: 3, Informative

    Usenet is a global relay system, but that means every Usenet server ends up storing and relaying everything posted to it. So, to effectively get this e-book off of usenet the copyright owner would have to send a DMCA takedown notice to every Usenet server operator. However, hitting AOL's Usenet server to either cancel the offending post or drop the whole group takes the book out of view of the AOL-using population, and that's a pretty big chunk of people in one hit.

  4. More info by GillBates0 · · Score: 5, Informative
    Since I wasn't familiar with this case, a little searching on Google turned up the following links:

    Harlan Ellison's webpage:

    From his NEWS page he's been on a campaign to Kick Internet Piracy.

    According to this site, he's been fighting to prevent unauthorized posting of books/creating work on the intarweb without the authors consent...he believes AOL was partly responsible for his works being posted.

    TO PROTECT WRITERS' CREATIVE PROPERTIES.

    WE FILED A LAWSUIT AGAINST THE ABOVE PARTIES TO STOP THEM FROM POSTING MY WORKS ON THE INTERNET WITHOUT PERMISSION. THIS IS COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT. RAMPANT. OUT OF CONTROL. PANDEMIC.

    What I find surprising is that the lower court sided WITH AOL in what looks to be a one sided case in favor of Ellison. How can the lower court support the DMCA and still side with an evil corporation...are they that corrupt now? Do we need federal courts to provide simple justice to the common man now?

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    1. Re:More info by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Whether Harlan has a case here, and he may, remember who he is before climbing on a free speech or author's rights bandwagon with him. Harlan is much more concerned about *his* control over what gets published than about author's control, credit, or payment.

      Look up the problems with Harlan's anthology "The Last Dangerous Visions", where Harlan got various copyright agreements with contributors, then violated them by never publishing the book but has never released the original works back to the authors so they can publish them elsewhere. That's theft.

  5. Re:Unfamiliar... by Robotech_Master · · Score: 5, Informative

    Well, you can read up pretty easily by just googling on "Harlan Ellison copyright binaries". The short form is that Ellison discovered some of his works were being posted to an alt.binaries group and got ticked off in his own uniquely Ellisonian ranting, raving, frothing-at-the-mouth way. AOL requested and received a summary judgment because, "Hey, we're complying with the DMCA, therefore we're not liable."

    This appeal decision is basically a higher court saying, "Oh, no you're not in full compliance...not only did you change the email address without telling anyone, someone had already told you about it when your email address worked. Let's send this through that lower court one more time."

    IANAL and all that, of course.

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  6. Re:Its Usenet? by Dun+Malg · · Score: 3, Informative
    However, hitting AOL's Usenet server to either cancel the offending post or drop the whole group takes the book out of view of the AOL-using population, and that's a pretty big chunk of people in one hit.

    Then again, how many people who know how to get binaries off USENET use AOL?

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  7. Re:Summary. by Saven+Marek · · Score: 2, Informative

    Phone them, email them, and contact them by registered mail. If your copyrighted works are online then you are losing income, and losing control over what you have the right to copy.

    Granted, this can be abused easily if frivolous cases are constantly being brought to hand by a vexatious copyright holder (in the SCO mold who may not even own copyright). If you find your copyrighted work is being distributed illegally then it's your job to report it and get something done about it, sitting around after firing off an email and getting no response back indicates to me that you've been ignored or something's wrong with the system.

    That being said, the fact that AOL has an email address registered with the copyright office and it's the wrong one does mean they're not making it easy via that one avenue of complaint. It doesn't affect the others, and picking up the phone makes sure you KNOW your complaint has been heard

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  8. Re:Seems strange to trust email so much... by fiendo · · Score: 2, Informative

    It was not that e-mail is a legal notice necessarily, its the fact that it was AOL's specified policy to use e-mail as an acceptable way of notifying them of infringement. They lost their safe harbor status for failing to properly implement their own policy.

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  9. Re:Where's the problem? by Lurker · · Score: 4, Informative
    Fascinating. Apperently he wote Scotty as an intersteller drug dealer. So I guess Bones was an addict in the orignal instead of accidentally getting shot up.

    Completely and utterly false. This is the lie that Gene Roddenberry perpetuated, despite repeated pleas from Harlan to knock it the hell off. In Harlan's original script (see Ellison's "City On The Edge Of Forever", ISBN 1565049640, for his complete original teleplay) it was some no-name crewman who was dealing drugs. Gene changed it because we can't have people selling drugs in the perfect Trek universe (that would too....human.) Gene also made many other claims about Harlan's script that were false (e.g., it was too expensive to shoot.)

    The complete story is in the previously mentioned book.

  10. Re:Its the law by LostCluster · · Score: 2, Informative

    And we should not that even though the notice was sent by e-mail which isn't always reliable, we know that this e-mail worked because the plantiff was able to force AOL to admit their own logs showed that they got it into their systems, it just sat in an account nobody bothered to check anymore and they didn't forward or send bounces.

    Sorry, AOL. You got served. You've got lawsuit.

  11. Re:Seems strange to trust email so much... by mindstrm · · Score: 5, Informative

    Email has always been legally acceptable.. the only issue is whether you can prove in court an email was really delivered or not.

    ANY form of communication can constitute a valid contract, some are just harder to prove than others.

    A written piece of paper with real original signatures, including several witnesses, is fairly hard to fake. That's why important legal documents have so many signatories.. it's to show that yes, all parties understood the contract, and yes, all parties willingly agreed to it.

    In this case, AOL *registered* their email address with the copyright office as a valid way to contact them about copyright issues... that's the point. Had they not done this, they could have insisited on some other method probably.

    But they said "this is the address that we will accept complaints on".. then they proceeded to ignore those complaints through mismanagement.

  12. Re:Usenet Precident by LostCluster · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yes, but, under the DMCA, each ISP can dodge the lawsuit by filing with the copyright office the contact points at which they will take official DMCA takedown notices. So long as they actually take down what they're told to that way, they can't be held liable.

    What happened here is that AOL got a notice to their registered e-mail address, and didn't do the takedown in time. They were 99% in compliance, but this went through the 1% hole in their lawsuit shield.

  13. Re:Harlan Ellison is a nut case. by mikeophile · · Score: 2, Informative

    The term is 'speculative fiction'.

  14. Re:It's about the future of USENET by angryelephant · · Score: 2, Informative

    One of his copyrighted works got posted on USENET. He told one of the larger providers of USENET access to take it off. Seems a pretty reasonable thing to do.

    The court case only arose because AOL utterly fucked up in the procedure they used for reporting copyright violation.

  15. Re:Fuck you, Harlan. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Dear whiney bitch,

    You seem to think that the world owes you something because you grew up poor. This is not the case.

    Sincerely,
    Reala T. Chek

  16. I Take It You Didn't Read The Script by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative
    The original script had Kirk trying to save his girlfriend, and McCoy stopping him. Also, in the original, the Enterprise did exist, but was crewed by a bunch of pirates. I don't remember anything about the drugs part, but it's been a decade or so since I read a copy of the original script.

    Personally, I liked the idea of Kirk being willing to give up everything (including his oath and his integrity) for love, but Roddenberry didn't see it that way.

    If you're gonna rip on someone, at least have the decency to get the facts first.

    And, if you want to see how Hollywood really trashes someone's dreams, just ask Harlan to tell you about his TV show, Starlost. He was so upset at what they did to his work (they made an absolute mess of it), that he forced the producers to change his name on the credits to a pseudonym. They were almost as unhappy as Harlan about the whole thing.

  17. Re:Wow by drmike0099 · · Score: 4, Informative

    This isn't a core problem with the law, it's a core problem with most people's understanding of the law and the way it's applied in our current legal setting. The law allows for something like $100k penalty or damages per copyright violation if you are found to have done that. However, there are a lot of fair use provisions that protect many uses of copyrighted material from falling under this, i.e. educational use, personal use, backups, etc. To prove you violated copyright in these cases, the court typically looks at four things, among them whether or not you profited from the violation and whether or not you knew you were doing it. I would honestly be very surprised to find that someone who downloaded a single copy of a story from an online site that claimed it was free to download would ever be found guilty of copyright violation and pay any penalties.

    That being said, there was a recent disturbance in the force -- the DMCA. That makes it easier for copyright holders to cause problems for people, basically by putting many of the original fair use provisions on hold in a way that hasn't found its way through the courts yet. I'm hoping it will and it will be smashed down, but it hasn't happened yet. This doesn't change the basic premise of the law as I tried to describe it above.

    It also put the copyright holders in a position they had never had before where they feel emboldened to go around rattling their swords. The RIAA can threaten people with very expensive lawsuits which, even if those people won (which they probably would given a fair shake), they would have to pay craploads of money defending themselves. Estimates of copyright case costs are somewhere around $200,000 per case. In most cases it's way cheaper just to pay the fine unless you can find some kind soul to protect you for the eventual win. The other downside is that the person sued for copyright violation doesn't come out ahead ever even if they win. At their most lucky, they could win court expenses, but that's not even a guarantee. So you won your case, but you're still out $200k. And that's how these big companies can pull it off. It has nothing to do with the law about copyright, which was never meant to be applied in these cases anyway.

  18. Re:Harlan Ellison is a nut case. by ArekRashan · · Score: 2, Informative

    From Merriam-Webster Online:

    Speculative

    Function: adjective

    1 : involving, based on, or constituting intellectual speculation; also : theoretical rather than demonstrable

    Fiction

    Function: noun

    1 a : something invented by the imagination or feigned; specifically : an invented story

    Speculative Fiction

    An invented story involving, based on, or constituting intellectual speculation.

    Novels about alternate possible historical timelines are SF. "Normal" historical fiction is also somewhat speculative as the author speculates about dialogue internal and external, and attempts to relate the reader to the experience of the characters as envisioned by the author. Much fiction does indeed have speculative qualities, but certainly not all fiction. Star Wars novelizations, for example, are not even remotely SF, though they do apparently qualify as "sci-fi". Where the science comes in, I'm not sure, but hey.

    SF is not a new term, and AFAIK, it was coined by authors who considered themselves writers of speculative fiction, and those authors have usually not wanted to be classified as "sci-fi", but insist on the term SF, or Speculative Fiction.