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Peter Jackson Says "Hobbit" Movie In The Works
Patik writes "'Lord of the Rings' Director Peter Jackson is planning to film 'The Hobbit,' according to this Associated Press article. Jackson, who is currently filming 'King Kong', is waiting for New Line and MGM, the two studios with rights to the film, to battle it out for rights to make the prequel. Jackson also mentions wanting the movie to feel just like the LOTR trilogy, including having Ian McKellen return as Gandalf." (This is better than just hinting.)
Since he says "I guess MGM's lawyers and New Line's lawyers are going to have a huge amount of fun over the next few years trying to work it all out", I question how long he can wait.
A "few years" may make the movie seem disjointed from the rest of them. One of the great things about the first three is that noone really aged. If he waits 5+ years to make what is supposed to be a prequel, will those look out of place?
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For USian readers, Sir Ian has appeared on a number of chat shows recently promoting RoTK and other recent films of his. He was directly asked about his willingness to appear in "The Hobbit" should it be filmed and basically came across as absolutely desperate to do it and said something along the lines of "fingers crossed Peter Jackson will do it". So there you are. No word from Holm as far as I know though.
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I think I read in the books that Gandalf found Bilbo to not age at all after he obtained the ring. You'll remember even from the movie that Bilbo talks about not feeling older in terms of physical, but that he felt stretched and I guess old because of the tainted ring?
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Anyways, what I'm saying here is that they can have the guy that played Bilbo play it again. Same character, same looks. I can't wait to see the dwarves
You have to take into account that this book, and all others that were released by his son were mostly just the notes that Tolkien used in the creation of his world, and for the most part were never intended for publication. If your writing something for yourself you write it completly different then if you are going to write for others to read.
The Silmarillion is all back-ground to the main story of LOTR, and although hard to get though it certainly gives many insights into the world as a whole. Not one to put into film, but definatly a book for anybody who wants to really get to grips with the works of J.R.R Tolkien
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And if memory serves, there aren't any other hobbits in the story, right? At the end when Bilbo returns to the Shire he encounters a number of Hobbits in the process of auctioning off his possessions.
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He felt like "butter spread across too much bread" because the Ring was exerting more and more of its power over him, turning him inexorably into what Smeagol ultimately became. Which is part of the reason that Gandalf was most insistent that Bilbo leave the Ring at that point (at the beginning of the Fellowship); later he may not have physically been able to do it.
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Ummm, The Battle of Five Armies???
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Gloin, Gimli's father, was on both books too - on LotR he appeared during Elrond's council.
He was even shown in the FotR movie, although he remained silent there.
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Frodo was 33 at the party, but didn't leave the Shire for many years.
But at 33 a hobbit has just come of age, so he should look young. Since he was carrying the ring,
which more or less stops aging, he should continue to look young throughout the story.
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Frodo was 51 when he began his quest, like Bilbo, but he had had the ring preventing him from aging (at least partially) since he was 33 and thusly looked younger than Bilbo did during "The Hobbit."
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If I remember correctly, there was a huge war between the humans, dwarves, and elves in The Hobbit.
And then there's the whole Smaug rampage scene.
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Except that Hobbits have a longer lifespan than we do. Frodo was barely out of his "tweens", which is equivalent to our own "teens". I think he was cast well, and the look was about perfect. If only he could have looked just a little less soulful, maybe, 25% of the time...
Not sure if anyone else saw this, but a few months back I found what looked like a poor-quality leeked trailer for The Hobit on Kazaa or Bittorrent. It had most of the same characters, a few borrowed scenes, and what looked like new scenes, including CG of the dragon.
Anyone else see this, or know anything about it?
Bilbo was 51 when he set off on his adventure. Frodo is 50 when he sets off on his. You can check the dates in the RotK appendeces.
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It's a fantastic audiobook too. Same with the Hobbit audiobook. Audible!
Considering that "The Hobbit" became a prequel to "The Lord of the Rings", one could consider the possibility of which LOTR characters / actors could appear in "The Hobbit".
From The Book
- Bilbo - Ian Holm
- Gandalf - Ian McKellen
- Elrond - Hugo Weaving
- Gollum / Smeagol - Andy Serkis
Possible LOTR Characters Cameos
- Legolas - Orlando Bloom (Legolas is the son of King Thranduil of Mirkwood (the Elvenking of "The Hobbit"))
- Arwen Evenstar - Liv Tyler (daughter of Elrond, but stayed at Lothlorien at times - unlikely to appear, but it could make an appearance)
- Aragorn / Strider - Viggo Mortenson (Aragorn was raised in Rivendell, and so could make an appearance. He's known in "The Fellowship of the Ring" to be good friends with Bilbo)
- Barliman Butterbur - David Weatherley (though Bree is not mentioned, I believe, Bilbo and company could easily pass through Bree as its on the way)
- Other LOTR Elves - most any could show again if desired
Unlikely To Appear
- LOTR Hobbits - mostly all too young
- Gimli - probably too young or not born, as Gloin, Gimli's father, is described, I believe, as a young dwarf in "The Hobbit". On the other hand, dwarves are long lived (compared to humans) and so what's "young"? Hobbits came of age in their 30's or 40's (can't remember which off the top of my head).
Others?
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It's only when Gollum researches the origins of his Precious, in order to find it again, that the name 'Baggins' is brought to the attention of Sauron. Gollum is caught and then released, whereupon he found and carefully evaded Shelob... both escapes for a price.
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back in the far distant past the BBC did a 53hr [yes 53 hours] radio dramatisation of Lord of the Rings with a young Ian Holm as Frodo Baggins. Thats probably why he got the part of Bilbo in the movie.
Yes he could carry off the part of Bilbo in the Hobbit but he would require a lot of care to stay healthy at the age he might be by the time the movie gets to be finally made.
two outside possibilities would be Bob Hoskins or Armin Shimerman [Quark in DS9}
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Some you missed, sort of:
- Gloin appeared at the council of Elrond in FotR.
- Gwaihir, the eagle who rescued Gandalf in FotR also appears in the hobbit.
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It should be used as in the book - a harmless trinkit that makes Bilbo invisible. The story is not about the ring, which wasn't really in the picture as being this huge ring of power when Tolkien wrote the book. The story is about Biblo going from some weed-smoking country boy to an adventurer.
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As long as we don't have to listen to Elrond going on about how man can't handle things.
Other than a dragon attacking a whole city and a battle between elves, dwarves, goblins, men, and eagles. And the giant spiders. Can't forget the giant spiders. Oh yeah, there's also trolls. And more goblins. And a giant man/bear. But other than that, it's pretty dull.
If Jackson does cut the end from the Hobbit, would the title then be The Hobbit, or There and... ?
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Besides, being 80 with a lifespan of over 200 years puts him, relatively speaking, in his late thirties/early forties. Mr Mortensen is 45.
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