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Microdrive Technology Rebounds Thanks to iPod Mini

An anonymous reader writes "A few years ago Richard Menta over at MP3 Newswire did a lengthy review on the IBM Microdrive and declared it would significantly alter the MP3 portable market if IBM did one thing - drop the price. That never happened and it prompted Menta last year to declare the iPod's more cost effective Toshiba drive made it moot and he put the Microdrive on his 2002 MP3 loser list. Since then the drive technology was acquired by Hitachi who convinced to Apple to use it for the iPod Mini. The Mini's recent success prompted Menta to revisit his previous write-off. Interesting view of the up and down travils of any technology and how each change can have dramatic effect on its success and failure."

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  1. It takes a long time by sakusha · · Score: 3, Insightful

    to become an overnight success.

  2. Who convinced who? by teamhasnoi · · Score: 4, Insightful
    ...was acquired by Hitachi who convinced to Apple to use it for the iPod Mini.

    Is it: ..was acquired by Hitachi who convinced Apple to use it for the iPod Mini.

    or

    was acquired by Hitachi who was convinced by Apple to use it for the iPod Mini.

    Editors should be clearing this up, rather than adding 11 more submissions to the 'Games' catagory. C'mon Timothy - stop playing UT2004 for just a second.

  3. Think outside the square by powerpuffgirls · · Score: 5, Insightful

    MicroDrive won't be successful as a storage because nobody really needs to carry that much data around. When iPod comes in, it changed the use of such device, and people do have needs to carry that much of music around.

    Similar to Acer's latest monsterous laptop, which is so heavy and short of battery life. Most people said it is too heavy and short-life to be carried around, but in reality this laptop is not designed for you to carry around and use it in pubs, cafe or buses, instead it is for people to move from point A to point B, and station it on a desk again. This immediately changes its intended use and market.

    1. Re:Think outside the square by unfortunateson · · Score: 5, Insightful

      On the other hand, the current generation of pro-level (11+ megapixel range) digital cameras take 35MB raw-mode photos. A 4GB Microdrive becomes indispensible.

      A couple of the newest MP3 jukeboxes have 20GB and firewire for upload/download of not-neccessarily-music files and are even better.

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    2. Re:Think outside the square by GigsVT · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I think it is you that needs to think outside the square. Something like a camcorder could easily use these microdrives. Or how about a PVR that you could easily carry to someone else's house to watch movies.

      PDAs generally are designed to work within the confines of flash RAM, but a microdrive PDA might have all kinds of uses no one has thought of.

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    3. Re:Think outside the square by powerpuffgirls · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That is exactly my point, people need to think how a product can be used, not what a product is. Obviously these "people" are the Marketing & Sales departments.

      Your mention of Camcorder, PVR and PDA are all good place to use these MicroDrives, but did the orignal MicroDrive manufacturer think of it? Do we see manufacturers using it now?

      My original post suggested that iPod changed the use of MicroDrive from storing data to storing music, but by no mean did I suggest music storage is the only use for these MicroDrives.

  4. Re:Pretty annoying by SpookyFish · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I hardly think that a significant percentage of the 100k+ iPMinis were purchased for that reason.

    The Mini isn't a bad deal in any way for people who want one that is mini -- and the size DOES make a difference to plenty of people. 4G is still a hell of a lot of music, for "typical" people and/or those willing to prune what they put on the iPod to songs they'll ever actually listen to.

    I highly doubt Hitachi is selling them at a loss -- Apple is buying with at least 100k unit volume commitments. I bet they haven't even sold 100k total to retail channels! I am sure, however, they wish they'd protected against this, to keep the margins on standalone retail sales high.

  5. Re:Pretty annoying by evilWurst · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "Hitachi is clearly selling these drives to Apple at or near a loss, for whatever strange reason."

    It's unlikely that they'd do this for a product that was almost guaranteed to sell in large volumes. It's probably the other way around - they're making a small profit on the iPod sales and a really big profit on the drives they sell seperately.

  6. A new floppy drive by cybermint · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In this day and age, where computers are so widely used, and our data integrity is vital, we still rely on data storage methods that use moving parts. Nothing lasts forever, but magnetic media always has a nasty habit of failing much sooner, mainly because it still relies on a system vulnerable to friction. Now microdrive technology is rebounding? When is this dinosaur going to die!? Then again, maybe that's the reason it's still around. If it didn't fail, we wouldn't have to buy a new one.

  7. Re:It's not the firmware. by aastanna · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Plus, you've got to assume that they're making a profit on these things. Even if someone is just buying the ipod to take it apart, it's still $$$ in apple's pocket. No real reason to discourage that.

  8. Re:Pretty annoying by TwinkieStix · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That's assuming that all of these microdrives are ending up on ebay NOW. What about people buying them for themselves, or people with dozens or hundreds of drives but holding them to keep supply low (to keep the price up). IANA Statistician, but I would expect it to be a slightly larger percent, but not more than 2-5%.

  9. Re:Pretty annoying by MrLizardo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If I understand correctly, the ipod mini has shock proofing installed around the hard drive. I know that the bigger ipod did. Cameras however with compact flash slots made to accept flash memory do not have any shock proofing at all.

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  10. Re:PDAs? by .com+b4+.storm · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The zire is a toy, come back when you have something with a persistant connection to the internet, a larger screen, a keyboard, and a phone and we'll talk.

    No, the Zire is a PDA. What you described borders on being a notebook - if I wanted to carry a notebook computer around, I would have one. But you see, I don't need (or want) a persistant connection to the internet, or a larger screen, or a phone. A keyboard would be nice, but it's not critical. The Zire lets me organize my contacts and notes, view whatever documents I need to carry with me, play games, play video and music, and carry around my photo albums in my pocket.

    And like you said, the other devices "eat up power like you wouldn't believe." Why again would I want a device that has features I don't want, in a form factor I don't want to lug around, and that is a pain in the ass requiring frequent recharges?

    That's what I thought. Sorry, troll, maybe you should use one of your wonderful "2.5G devices" in the real world and see how you like it.

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