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KDE 3.2.1 Released
TheSurfer writes "The KDE project today announced the immediate availability of KDE 3.2.1, a maintenance release for the latest generation of the most advanced and powerful free desktop for GNU/Linux and other UNIXes. KDE 3.2.1 ships with lot of bug fixes since KDE 3.2 and is available in 49 languages (now including Bengali, Icelandic, Japanese, Lithuanian, Low Saxon, Latin Serbian and Tajik). Sources and contributed packages are linked on the KDE 3.2.1 info page."
ohhhh bugger. There goes another weekend to compiling it! at least i dont use gentoo...
How many computers are too many?
Windows XP 64bit edition will be release soon.
The OS where you can acturally do something with it.
Sane and professional: Seperate Applications and Actions menus.
Goofy and amateur: A big giant "K" button with approximatly 2,000 groups, subgroups, and "More Programs" groups for no known reason.
"Sufferin' succotash."
bloated, ugly, slow
It's been available in 'Pacific Islander' for some time now.
If by powerful you mean all those menus, configuration panes and super-loaded toolbars, then yes, KDE is very powerful. But it's very very bad. I find using KDE actually more complicated than the shell! Gnome is much nicer to use because it's simple. KDE should stick to the KISS moto: Keep It Simple, Stupid!
I think Gnome is better. But even better than Gnome is MacOS X. Some will say it's not free, but when you buy any machine from Apple, you get it for free. Sounds free enough to me!
That being said, congratulations to the KDE team anyways, even though I prefer Gnome to it and that Gnome is much better for most users, some users prefer KDE and it's still a nice alternative to Windows. Without Gnome, I guess I'd use KDE without swearing, but I've been spoiled enough by user-friendly interfaces that it's not the case.
shut the fucK up.
Not dead? Neither is Bantu, but people who speak it don't have much use for KDE.
tok-tok-t-t-klik-klik-ka-tok-ka
Niggers should love the GNAA!!! Why werent they around in the 1860's when they needed them most?
NEW! Revised and updated!
$Revision: 1.7 $ $Date: 2004/03/05 17:01:10 $
The State Of KDE
We have seen a lot of important news regarding the KDE project over recent weeks, so it is worth pausing to consider the ramifications.
Let us start with the recent acquisition of SUSE by Novell. SUSE was the biggest Linux distributor (though still dwarfed by Red Hat) to use KDE as its default desktop. SUSE has, for many years, neglected to package the GNOME desktop properly or even do basic Q&A... much to the delight of KDE fanatics. Now, however, Novell has purchased the SUSE Linux distribution and Ximian, a company best known for the producing the most polished and professional desktop available for Linux (GNOME-based). The obvious conclusion to be drawn from these actions is that KDE is about to lose its main commercial support.
Now let's take a look at some of the reasons why this is so:
KDE advocates frequently reply to question regarding the use of the full GPL for Qt by claiming that Qt is MORE free than the LGPLed GNOME/GTK -- and hence KDE is somehow more "pure". However, a quick look through the KDE licenses shows that this is simply nonsense, and double-think on their part. The rest of KDE is licensed under the LGPL... indeed other full GPL licensed library will not be allowed into the KDE core. Only TrollTech's intellectual property, the Qt library which every KDE application must link to and abide by its licensing, is GPL! Only Trolltech is allowed to grab license fees from KDE closed-source developers! If another another GPLed library was allowed into the KDE core, it would mean that commercial developers would need a license for that too. So the KDE project is no cheerleader for a pure "GPL" world, it is a method for funnelling license fees and control over developers to TrollTech. This behaviour is hardly surprising: The founder of the KDE project works for TrollTech, as do many of the core developers. The LGPL used by GNOME libraries allows developers the freedom to use whatever license they like for applications, but modifications to GNOME itself must be open. A developer can build GNOME apps without a lawyer looking over his shouder; compare this with the triple-licensing quagmire of Qt. Nor does he have to beg for money to purchase Qt licenses before even starting a Linux desktop app -- Trolltech demands payment "up front" for their licenses, you cannot develop and *then* decide the license. GNOME/GTK's use of the LGPL is an excellent compromise, and one which ensures the commercial *and* community success of GNOME. It's no wonder Novell, Sun and IBM have chosen GNOME/GTK for their desktop efforts!
* The $3000 figure is just for Linux. If you want to develop for the Mac, Linux and Windows the amount reaches a staggering $6000 per developer.
NO WE DO NOT.
;-)
Flamewars are a menace and those who propagate them should be horsewhipped.
Mielipiteet omiani - Opinions personal, facts suspect.
Well, I personally think flamewars rock. If you think flame wars are anything more than a waste of bandwidth, then you are, sir, a complete and utter dickhead.
Sig: Closed for refurbishment.
since KDE 3.2 and is available in 49 languages (now including Bengali, Icelandic, Japanese, Lithuanian, Low Saxon, Latin Serbian and Tajik). But is it available in Idiot? that's where the real market share in computers is anymore. Look at XP's dominance of desktop market; who do you think they're appealing to?
"Operating systems suck: you're better off using only the BIOS" --trainsaw.com
Load up Control Center some time--you've got like a hundred items in there, grouped within groups.
Awesome! Nothing like keeping all of these configuration options all in one place and out of the way. That's real usability IMHO. If you want a "dumbed down" configuration, may I suggest you use the Desktop Settings Wizard, and pretend the Control Center doesn't exist?
Gnome has a seperate Applications pull down menu for programs, and an Actions menu for logging out, restarting, and so forth.
The default 'K' menu contains four "actions". FOUR. If that's too many options for you to handle, make sure you never take a look at the Windows XP menu, or your brain might explode.
Actually, one of those actions is "Run Command...", and I'm not sure if this counts as an action in the sense you mean.
This is a non-issue. In fact, most of the Gnome-HIG-Advocacy talking points are non-issues.
I find it hilarious that people bitch when Microsoft integrates Internet Explorer but find it perfectly acceptable that Konquerer be integrated into KDE. What happened to the whole "but newbies will use what's already there by default, and that flies in the face of choice" argument that we always hear against Windows?
From day one I always considered that argument against Internet Explorer to be silly and ill-thought. Of course, most arguments against Windows are silly and ill-thought. Integrating the browser, file manager and desktop together is a really good idea, and KDE shows to what heights one can take a good idea. What made it bad in Microsoft's case was: their monopoly status; unfinished integration; and using a crappy browser.
If you don't want to use Konqueror as a browser, you don't have to use Konqueror as a browser. And if you don't want to use it as a file manager, you don't have to use it as a file manager. Heck, you don't even have to use it at all! No one's going to sue you.
not to mention that things like Cancel should be on the left, Save and Quit in the middle, Exit on the right, and the buttons should not be equally spaced
To reiterate: non-issues. Get a life.
Gnome isn't perfect
I'm shocked! Shocked I tell you!
Don't blame me, I didn't vote for either of them!
.. sigh... what a dumbfuck zealot. virgin for life. *stamped on your wrist*
KDE RULES
Ah, censorship. The last cry of the downtrodden troll.
BTW, you're a fucking liar. You're not using KDE or GNOME or anything of the like, you've been soundly repudiated at every turn and yet you keep coming back to say "No, I'm not lying!" without the slightest scintilla of evidence.
Censorship indeed.
You do nothing but spew venom and vitriol and then have the unmitigated gall to try and paint yourself as a victim? It is truly disgusting. Especially after you post something as insincere as this.
Yeah, Slashdot is a place full of insults, and it is you who is making it so. You ought to be ashamed.