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Build a Robot out of a Car?

SomeRobotGuy writes "A researcher in the U.K. is in the process of building an autonomous biped robot out of a Mini Cooper r50. Its functions are controlled by six computers running RTLinux and it's powered by an internal combustion engine. And the thing's not tiny, at over 10 feet tall! The site includes videos showing some impressive results."

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  1. FAKE! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Watch the "Battery Test" video, if that isn't CGI then I'm a monkey's uncle.

    1. Re:FAKE! by sakusha · · Score: 4, Informative

      You're right, it's a dead giveaway. Notice the guy holding the clipboard, the lighting is camera left since the clipboard casts a shadow on his chest. But the fake CG shadows from the "robot" indicate the model was lit from the camera upper right. And none of the background objects (i.e. the cart) casts shadows anywhere near as distinct as the "robot."
      Come on fakers, don't you know that your lighting has to be consistent between composited layers?

    2. Re:FAKE! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Linguistic analysis backup: the author states that he is 'originally from Oxford', and then proceeds to talk about 'autos' with 'hoods'. In proper English these are, of course, cars with bonnets.

  2. Mod Parent Down by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    While this is some cool CG it really doesn't mean that his hoster needs a DDOS attack on port 80. I mean really.

  3. Obviously fake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Just take a look at the photos - clearly this is fake, done with CG. Look at the tires on the wheels - it's like they didn't even try.

  4. Slashdotted already! by xandroid · · Score: 2, Informative

    Here's the image on the one page I could access. Below it was the text:

    "Here is r50r without the protective bonnet plate. I was a bit hesitant to post this because you can see some of the details of my mechanics. But I don't think it gives away too many secrets."

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    $ echo "ceci n'est pas une pipe" | sed -Ee 's/(eci n|pas )//g'
    1. Re:Slashdotted already! by xandroid · · Score: 3, Informative

      I was lucky enough to get the actual article a second later, too -- link

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      $ echo "ceci n'est pas une pipe" | sed -Ee 's/(eci n|pas )//g'
  5. This would be cooler if... by rasafras · · Score: 4, Informative

    ...it were real. This is basically a less cool version of the VW bug transformer video, which can be found here (sorry about the format). The creator of the video has an interview here, though the original site is down.

    I'm surprised this slipped through, editors.

  6. Re:It's a nice bit of CG, it might be from MINI by RajivSLK · · Score: 5, Informative

    It seems that it is advertising.

    A whois lookup on r50rd.co.uk returns the address:

    6 darblay street
    london
    W1V 8DM
    GB

    A quick search for this address on Google reveals:

    Martyn Gould Productions, 6 D'Arblay St, London, W1F 8DN, UK

    On a page titled: "Film and Television - Post Production, Commercials"

  7. Reply From Builder (Colin Mayhew) by nherc · · Score: 2, Informative

    I just came across a reply from the creator regarding its authenicty on Google Groups:

    From: Chris S. (123@123.com)
    Subject: Re: Robot built from a Mini Cooper?
    View: Complete Thread (9 articles)
    Original Format
    Newsgroups: comp.robotics.misc
    Date: 2004-03-11 13:08:35 PST

    I'm not so sure. I really want to believe this thing's for real, but I
    have some serious doubts. Here's the response I got from Colin Mayhew,
    the robot's inventor:

    Colin Mayhew wrote:

    >I can assure you that the Cooper project is a real and
    >very tangible one. Your suspicion is perhaps
    >understandable because the leaps we've made are rather
    >significant compared to the current state of
    >commercial AI. As Mr. Clarke wrote in Technology and
    >the Future, "Any sufficiently advanced technology is
    >indistinguishable from magic." What's important to
    >remember in this famous quotation is not that the
    >technology becomes magic, but rather that technology
    >seems magical only to those who don't understand the
    >details or are not knowledgeable of the history of a
    >technology's development. It's for that reason that
    >I've placed notes online and have included videos from
    >different stages of the project. Have you seen videos
    >of people interacting with the Kismet robot? That
    >robot uses a fairly simple emotional model, yet people
    >bond to it and treat it as a 'living' creature! It has
    >become something magical from bits of aluminum and
    >electrons whizzing inside silicon. Your experiences in
    >the research sector I'm sure have shown you how
    >disconnected the public can be from the realities of
    >technology. There are autonomous machines (be they in
    >medicine or oil well drilling) so removed from our
    >daily lives that when we finally learn of them, we are
    >shocked and amazed---far more so than had we followed
    >the gradual steps and wrong turns the engineers made
    >developing and finessing the technology. This project
    >is real, and it, and the systems I've developed for it
    >are going to change the way we live our lives. The
    >most recent software revision I've tested on the robot
    >has some powerful reasoning capabilities, a large step
    >more powerful and versatile than that employed on the
    >robot when I recorded the videos you may have seen
    >online. They are perhaps powerful enough to seem like
    >magic, but both devil and the angel of creativity are
    >in the details. Soon enough, these little creatures
    >will be animating the robots all around us and making
    >our lives safer and more fulfilling.
    >
    >Regards,
    >Colin
    >
    >
    > --- "Chris S." wrote: > Is your
    >Mini Cooper powered robotic biped a real
    >
    >>project? Your site
    >>seems detailed enough, but the videos look
    >>suspiciously like computer
    >>generations. Either way, it's an entertaining feat.
    >>
    >>Sincerely,
    >>Chris S.

    Take it for what you will. I just can't believe someone built something like that essentially alone in just a few years. It just does too much and it moves too fluidily. For instance watch the video where it stops a run-away Car.

    --
    'He was a dreamer, a thinker, a speculative philosopher... or, as his wife would have it, an idiot.' - Douglas Adams
    1. Re:Reply From Builder (Colin Mayhew) by juhaz · · Score: 2, Informative

      Where's the Star Trek fans?? Haven't you learned anything from Spock? "An ancestor of mine maintained, that if you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

      For those of us that live in the this world, not on Enterprise few hundred years into the future, that's first used by Conan Doyles Sherlock Holmes (maybe Spock considers all other fictional characters his ancestors) and is more or less based on Occam's Razor.

  8. r50rd.COM ... by nherc · · Score: 2, Informative

    Interestingly, r50rd.COM was also registered this time at NetSol in Jan. '04 by the same David Mayhew who registered the UK domain.

    Just thought I'd share. I must say if it is a hoax... that's some pretty darn nice CG. If real, WOW... give me MY 10ft robot slave already!

    --
    'He was a dreamer, a thinker, a speculative philosopher... or, as his wife would have it, an idiot.' - Douglas Adams
  9. Inventors Actual WebSite by nherc · · Score: 2, Informative
    Here is what Colin Mayhew's Personal Yahoo! freebie website (in case it goes away again) says, since when I first looked it was out of bandwidth.

    Welcome to the homepage
    of Colin Mayhew
    [picture of our good doctor]
    Welcome. My name is Dr. Colin Mayhew, and you are visitor number

    I'm hoping to make this web site a place where I can share information about myself, my family and my interests.

    I hold a doctorate degree in engineering and worked for 30 years in the UK. Since my retirement, I have spent much of my free time in my laboratory. My other interests include reading, miniature locomotives and applied physics. To see my collection of miniature locomotives, click here. For engineering and applied physics links and downloads, click here.

    Thanks for your interest.

    This site was last updated 01/02/99

    Email: colinMayhewphd@yahoo.co.uk

    [The 2 linked pages are below]
    [Locomotive link, each description has a black and white photo]

    Pictures back to home

    Scene at Greywood North terminal (circa. 1951) before the departure of the 3.10pm 'special' (locomotive on left of picture). This is a K5 (2-6-0) class loco. On right is an 'Immingham' class (4-6-0) loco owned by a drummer in a local pop group at the time.

    My father (wearing his Canadian Pacific Railway hat) is sitting on the edge of the turntable pit in front of the purpose built engine shed. The engine on the far left is a 'Sterling' class single (2-2-2), Dad's hand is resting on the Immingham loco as shown in pic. 1.

    This is me driving my own loco 'Eureka' which is a Pacific class (4-6-2) over the mere bridge viaduct. Riding in the train behind is my sister Jane and school buddy Charles. Noral were the company which supplied all the 'Dural' aluminium alloy railway track for the GCR.

    A K5 loco on the turntable in steam and ready to go.

    A friend with my loco Eureka on the turntable.

    This is me (age about 8) steaming up my own engine. I dont know who the little enthusiast is on the left - he is probably Chairman of a London bank by now!

    My father is sitting on Eureka on the turntable ready to go. In the background is another engine owner, 'Woody' who was a veterinary surgeon; he is leaning over his own locomotive - another Pacific class 4-6-2.

    This is the skeleton tunnel or flyover with Eureka on the top level. The railway was sold in 1962 after my father's death and was reconstructed on a nearby farm estate.
    Underneath the flyover is the Royal Scot class (4-6-2) driven.

    This site was last updated 01/02/99
    Email: colinMayhewphd@yahoo.co.uk

    [Physics and downloads link]

    Links back to home

    History of quantum mechanics. Nicely details Kirchoff's theorem of blackbody radiation.

    Journal of Artificial Intelligence Research (JAIR).

    Institute of Nanotechnology. Excellent venue to keep up on current events.

    I highly recommend this abstact to anyone working on computing the area and centroid of multiple intensity-coded objects. Click here to download.
    [links from above]
    http://www-gap.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/H istTopic s/The_Quantum_age_begins.html
    http://www.cs.washi ngton.edu/research/jair/home.ht ml
    http://www.nano.org.uk/
    http://uk.geocities.c om/colinmayhewphd/brajovic_vl adimir_2001_1.pdf
    This site was last updated 01/02/99
    Email: colinMayhewphd@yahoo.co.uk

    Someone spent a decent amount of time on this if fake.

    IMPORTANT NOTE: The last update of this site is in 1999 if that is to be believed. I suppose it's either the real last modified date along with a real Doc Mayhew or it is another part of the hoax. Thoughts?
    --
    'He was a dreamer, a thinker, a speculative philosopher... or, as his wife would have it, an idiot.' - Douglas Adams
  10. Updated version by cgenman · · Score: 4, Informative

    Actually, the personal website of the author has a cleaned up, and significantly larger, version available here.

  11. mirror by xWh3lPx · · Score: 5, Informative

    managed to mirror it here.

  12. Mirror by cgenman · · Score: 5, Informative

    Another poster has put up a mirror, though nobody seems to have noticed the original comment.

    The mirror is available here.

    The page doesn't load animations properly in Opera, and relies upon Quicktime to display the Mpegs. It might work in Mozilla, but it might not.

    And again, adulations aplenty to xWh3lPx for the mirror.

  13. Re:OT:Geez. by Jonah+Hex · · Score: 1, Informative
    I wonder what the chances are of Slashdot actually doing the work for all of us and creating mirrors on their servers and linking to those instead of taking down poor defenseless websites. Probably not good, huh?
    This gets asked and covered alot here, prob in the FAQ too but what the hell I'll give ya my take since you asked nicely... Mirroring runs right into copyright problems, permission issues, plus the actual bandwidth to transfer those mirrored bytes. No clue what is really legal or not just going on what I've read here and there, hopefully someone will chime in if I'm too far offbase.

    The Google cache itself could be considered illegal under certain sets of inter/national laws/treatys. Proxy servers are pretty decent caching mechanisms and are usually situated on the ISP pipe to the user, and seem to enjoy the same kind of "blind service provider" freedom from copyright infringement that ISPs themselves appear to have. None of the corps or ISPs I've personally worked for spent any time that I could see on figuring out how legal their proxy was, they only got attention when something technically went wrong. ;) So I suppose that if /. created a virtual ISP (prob using VPN tunnels) and ran a proxy server for it's users, it could most likely get away with mirroring anything at all from the web, with even less liability than Google cache could face.

    Jonah Hex