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O'Keefe Under Fire for Hubble, ISS Decisions

chuckpeters writes "The battle over saving Hubble is just starting to heat up! The House Science Committee Democrats released their views and estimates report. Recommendation number two was that until Congress gets better information on the long term costs of Bush's Moon/Mars initiative, NASA's 2005 funding requests should go to existing programs. The House Science Committee has also decided that they want to hear from outside experts on Bush's space initiative. Just as Hubble isn't going quietly into the night, Bush's Moon/Mars plan isn't going quickly into space!"

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  1. Re:Do we? by dasmegabyte · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    I dunno...because some intelligent people are rich?

    See, human rights and conservative values are all well and good, but what really affects all of us person in the short term is a president's economic position. And the top five percent of people are getting $2000 back in their pockets this year, thanks to Bush. Kerry has already promised to repeal those cuts.

    So the picture looks something like this: vote Bush, get $2000. Vote Kerry, lose $2000 but gain a possible reduction in the deficit.

    On a strictly short term economic basis, voting for Bush is a good idea. So if you're intelligent, selfish, and short sighted (and I think there are a lot of us who are), voting Bush is a no-brainer.

    Of course, looking just past the next year, you might see that Kerry's drive to keep jobs in the states and fight inflation by fighting deficit spending will probably do more to help the country than giving the richest people more money. But this is a matter of interpretation -- and having a different interpretation is not a sure sign of a lack of intellect.

    And that's the problem Kerry has to overcome if he wants to succeed. He has to explain why Bush's economic policies are sufficiently onerous in the longview to justify losing money out of pocket -- and it shouldn't be too hard, considering that Kerry himself stands to lose MILLIONS if his own tax hikes take effect.

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  2. Re:O'Keefe by MasonMcD · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Conservatives love killing off all parts of government not associated with the military or law enforcement.

    I hadn't thought of this in conjunction with the space program, but it fits in with the current administration's other moves:

    No Child Left Behind: Underfund it and make compliance so onerous that the mandate to transfer from failing school to another school becomes an ersatz competition for students.

    After the idea of transferring becomes popular, public schools will become privatized.

    Social Security: Rely on deficit spending to the extent that Greenspan recommends cutting the Social Security benefits.

    After the Social Security funds are raided, privatize it. This is a stated plank of Bush's platform.

    Gutting the EPA, Eliminating Medicare leverage for negotiating with pharmaceutical companies, and zero support for organized labor are other examples. I'm sure there are other Bush plans for "getting government out of government," but those are the ones that stick in my mind.

    Don't believe Bush is interested in funding anything. He wants to turn over everything to private companies.

  3. Re:Agreed, except on one point by MrScience · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    I forgot to mention that there are plenty of scientists that believe science supports creationism. Snippet from that link:

    Some other scientists who admit that the universe is created by a Creator and who are known by their cited attributes are:

    Robert Boyle (the father of modern chemistry)
    Iona William Petty (known for his studies on statistics and modern economy)
    Michael Faraday (one of the greatest physicists of all times)
    Gregory Mendel (the father of genetics; he invalidated Darwinism with his discoveries in the science of genetics)
    Louis Pasteur (the greatest name in bacteriology; he declared war on Darwinism)
    John Dalton (the father of atomic theory)
    Blaise Pascal (one of the most important mathematicians)
    John Ray (the most important name in British natural history)
    Nicolaus Steno (a famous stratiographer who investigated earth layers)
    Carolus Linnaeus (the father of biological classification)
    Georges Cuvier (the founder of comparative anatomy)
    Matthew Maury (the founder of oceanography)
    Thomas Anderson (one the pioneers in the field of organic chemistry)

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