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A Handheld for a Primary Computer?

fromtheblueline asks: "As the last of her children leaves the house for college, my mother is planning on ditching her desktop, cable internet and landline in attempts to simplify and reduce bills. She doesn't use her PC for anything more than occasional emails and online purchases and her cell phone has pretty much made her landline obsolete. She emails me asking if there is a handheld that could replace these devices. I don't own one, don't need one (my SE616 and Powerbook is plenty), and really never bothered to research one. A quick search for anything decent reveals prices close to, or over, a low end notebook. As for access, unless she searches for open wifi points, I can't imagine mobile service being anymore competitive than a cable/DSL line coming into a house. Any recommendations, Slashdot?"

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  1. What about a mobile instead by boogy+nightmare · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Instead of Getitng a Handheld pc why not consider a newer Mobile phone, Both the Sony p800 (older) and the newer P900 come with opera built in, they would need no wireless point as they obviously use gprs to connect to the internet, you can also set up mailboxs on the phone to connect to your email servers. To a lesser extent you might also want to consider the Nokia 6600 (what i have) as it does almost all of the above but cheaper than the p900 (but not touch screen)

    Just an idea anyhow....

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  2. Get her a laptop by Will+Sargent · · Score: 4, Insightful
    You could get her a handheld, but it really wouldn't be worth the trouble when writing an e-mail.

    If she really wants to stay mobile and wants "small and light" then get her a TR series Vaio. If she's not a computer user, get her an 12 inch iBook.

    Neither of them are cheap, but it'll be easier than doing tech support the next time she drops it...

  3. Bluetooth and GSM by KingJoshi · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If your mother has a bluetooth enabled cell phone, then with T-Mobile at least, she can get access to the internet for $20 a month (plus costs for regular services) through the cell phone and share that access with other bluetooth enabled devices (laptops, PDAs, etc). I guess she could check email and stuff on the phone too, though smartphones are kind of expensive right now and most cell phone screens are kind of small.

    I've used my PDA to check the web and email, but repsonding on it is a serious chore. She could just enable her desktop for bluetooth with a usb device.

    I'm going on a road trip later this month and I plan to do that. Get a usb bluetooth enabler for my laptop and get the data service from T-Mobile. I guess it's partially the geek factor, but that's just cool to be able to connect to the internet almost anywhere I am. Check directions, road conditions, weather, lodging, food, etc. Plus, I still want to read slashdot :)

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  4. PocketPC okay, not great by NanoGator · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I spent a couple of weeks using a modern (like less than 6 months old) PocketPC via 802.11b. My results were mixed. I used it for browsing Slashdot and reading the occasional email. Can't say I'd want to do a lot of heavy duty stuff with it, though. It didn't really understand the concept of doing more than one thing at a time. I don't mean multitasking, it did that quite well. I could only open one email at a time, or browse one page at a time, etc. That may not matter to you but it bugged the hell out of me. (not to mention that most sites didn't render on IE readably..)

    If all she really does is type the occasional email, then a PocketPC + Bluetooth (using her phone to send the mail out...) + a keyboard for it may not be all that bad. But if she does anything more, she'll ache for her PC again.

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  5. Been there, Done that by kalidasa · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not worth it. Get a little laptop. I have a Tungsten C, and now I mostly use it for the same things I used my Handspring for. Better to put the money toward a 12-in. iBook - most of the Apple stores have an older G3-based one available for something on the order of $800, and the Apple web store has them for that under "special deals." They're not the latest and greatest, but they're a lot faster and more usable than a handheld.

  6. Wait for PDAs with VGA screens by Jacco+de+Leeuw · · Score: 3, Interesting

    PDAs with VGA screens are expected in the next few months. These should make tasks such as browsing websites much easier. The Zaurus SL-6000 will a VGA screen. The Toshiba e800 already has one.

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  7. they're all designed with "hosts" in mind by Myself · · Score: 3, Interesting

    WinCE devices aren't designed to run solo, they have to have a "partnership" with a "host" to do things like install software. I had an iPaq for a week before the cradle arrived, and I was trying to install the drivers for the CF wireless card. I had the Dual-CF sleeve for it, with the ma701 in the top slot and a 64-meg flash card in the bottom slot.

    I figured I could download the driver package and load it onto the CF card at a desktop machine with a reader, then move the CF over to the ipaq, unpack it, and install it. No such luck. The driver ships as a win32 .exe file which then loads the drivers onto the portable via the sync cable. Whose assinine idea was this? (don't answer, I already know!)

    Not that I would've wanted to use an iPaq as my primary machine anyway, even with a foldup keyboard, the screen's too small and the viewing angle is terrible. However, there are a pair of WinCE devices I could imagine using as an everyday machine: The IBM Workpad z50, and the Vadem Clio (a.k.a. Sharp Tripad) are both laptop-style PDAs, with a clamshell hinge and a full size keyboard. They both have real PCMCIA slots, CF slots, hardware serial ports, and VGA screens. Both of them get approximately 8 hours on a battery, and the z50 is available with a double-capacity battery which honestly, realistically does get 16 hours.

    Because of the WinCE codependency problem mentioned above, they're both unable to survive without occasional connection to a desktop for certain tasks. The easy solution is to ditch WinCE and run the hpcmips port of NetBSD, which boots on both of them. With a decent-sized CF card you can have a full development environment and not even need someone to cross-compile for you. That's definitely enough to be self-sufficient.

    Full keyboard, harware serial port, and 8 hours on a charge. That's a recipe for "portable serial console" if I ever heard one. Oh yeah, it also happens to be a full-fledged NetBSD machine. :)