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Lifting The Lid On Computer Filth

IainMH writes "There's a story over at BBC News about how work stations contain nearly 400 times as many microbes than lavatories. Gross. 'A desk is capable of supporting 10 million bacteria and the average office contains 20,961 germs per square inch, according to research. ... By contrast, the average toilet seat contains 49 germs per square inch, the survey showed.'"

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  1. Hmmm.... by luxis · · Score: 5, Informative

    Old news? Workstations 'Dirtier Than Toilets' /. article Mon May 13, '02 02:43 PM.

    Same story at CNN

    At least... if you're working at your workstation its 'your' bacterias and not some others ass/shit/piss? ;-)

    1. Re:Hmmm.... by Helios1182 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Just remember that its 'your' bacteria plus the bacteria off of everything you touched before using your workstation. Grab a cup of coffee? Open a door? Use the office toliet? Its all your hand, and thusly your workstation.

    2. Re:Hmmm.... by nounderscores · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The main concern with the bacteria that live in your colon is that they break down the things that you find indigestible (cellulose, left over protein etc) and produce toxic byproducts. These toxic byproducts are the dangerous things and have to be expelled regularly. They are only safe because once they leave your body, you generally don't eat them up again. The workstation bacteria are probably mostly air bacteria that have found a nice area full of skin flakes and cookie crumbs to breed on. nothing to worry about.

      Now if you combined the food rich environment of your keyboard with the poison producing bacteria from your colon, you start to have a real problem.

    3. Re:Hmmm.... by Jardine · · Score: 5, Funny

      Now if you combined the food rich environment of your keyboard with the poison producing bacteria from your colon, you start to have a real problem.

      So what you're saying is that I should not shit on my keyboard. Good to know.

    4. Re:Hmmm.... by ElizabethP · · Score: 5, Funny
      So what you're saying is that I should not shit on my keyboard. Good to know.

      It sounds like someone holds prejudicial opinions regarding keyboard-shitters. To each his/her own, yeah? :-( Granted, my friends have a complete aversion to my keyboard, but that's the way I like it.

    5. Re:Hmmm.... by noidentity · · Score: 5, Funny

      "...a product called "Microban" into their keyboards and mice, to create an environment where bacteria cannot survive and grow."

      Darn it! I knew there was a use for that old Russian monitor that glowed even when it was unplugged. Curse modern low-emissions monitors!

    6. Re:Hmmm.... by hemholtz · · Score: 5, Interesting

      In my office we have an ozone generator that comes on after hours for a few hours. Ozone is a good oxidizer therefore o good sanitizer that can be circulated through the air. If the computers are left running at night the bacterias will get pretty well oxidized on a daily basis. Ozone, being an unstable molecule (O3) breakes back down into oxygen (O2) by morning. If you're paranoid about bacteria you might try this. I haven't noticed much difference in health, but it smells nice and fresh in the morning.

  2. Surprising? by Bl33d4merican · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I guess we shouldn't be surprised. Most of us sneeze on our hands, not our asses.

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  3. No more Computer-TV tray by prozac79 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Does this mean I have to stop using the top of my computer as a food tray? It was so convinient to be able to place a plate and glass on top of the case while I'm working.

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  4. Mandatory Porn reference. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Of course they're filthier! Toilets just have people sitting on them. There's no end to the fetishes explored on personal workstations across the globe!

  5. Ho hum. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Of course computers have more germs per square inch than a toilet seat. How often do you clean your computer? How often do you clean your toilet seat?

    I guarantee you, if you cleaned your toilet as often as you clean your computer, it would (a) be utterly filthy, and (b) reek like nothing you've ever experienced before.

  6. but are the microbes "bad"? by PopCulture · · Score: 5, Funny

    the "lick test"

    lick a public toilet seat you'll probably get real sick

    lick your desk and your work mates will just think you're a freak.

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    1. Re:but are the microbes "bad"? by JabberWokky · · Score: 5, Insightful
      I doubt it... the toilet seat probably has a variety of common surface bacteria such as staph plus yeast and maybe a bit of coliform; only the last is likely to make you sick (you get exposed to the first two all the time). Butts are pretty clean; you keep them covered in fabric after you wash them. Hands and mouths on the other... err... hand...

      The desk has people respirating over it and sneezing in the area. Everybody is going out, touching various things, tossing out bad stuff from the office fridge and then borrowing a stapler. It's likely got a significantly wider range of bacteria and viruses that can cause infection in a human.

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    2. Re:but are the microbes "bad"? by JabberWokky · · Score: 5, Funny
      Makes sense... but I'd still rather shake your hand than grip your ass cheek. ;-)

      After hearing about your coworker's issues, maybe I'll just wave. :)

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  7. Old news by MisterFancypants · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Not only is this old news (I remember hearing about how keyboards are more germy than toilets years and years ago), but its also not even that surprising if you stop to think about it, as the average toilet is disinfected quite regularly while the average workstation/keyboard is almost never even subjected to a basic dusting or wash, let alone a disinfectant.

  8. Not Surprising at All... by Tremor+(APi) · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yeah, it's gross, but not at all surprising... I work in a cube farm where it's pretty much common knowledge that touching any of the equipment is going to be worse bacteria-wise than doing pushups on the mensroom floor (one of the stranger things I've seen in my cube farm days). And when you consider that equipment is shared between people on different shifts, and how strongly people are discouraged from calling in sick when they're sick, you start to get a very good picture of the kind of biological warfare taking place in the cracks between the keys. You can pick up more germs in this office by typing "WMD" than you would pick up from being attacked with one.

    And don't even get me started on the transmission of scabies in shared upholstered swiveling office chairs...

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    1. Re:Not Surprising at All... by Trumpetgod2k1 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I'll seccond that. I'm in a college dorm, and as the local computer guru, I get called upon all the time to fix "broken" machines and install hardware (hey, easy money). I ran into one computer that someone inherited from a friend who recently graduated. The power supply was on the blink and the machine would only turn on "when it wanted to." Opening the case showed the horrible truth: All the once PCB green cards and motherboard were covered in gray fur. There was a good five years of dorm room dust coating every surface, not to mention several moths I pulled from behind the bezel. I had to take the whole think outside with an air duster to get anywhere near the power supply. I didnt actually open the PS once I had it out, but the cloud of dust that arrose when I dropped it in the dumpster told me all I needed to know.

      Moral of the story? Keep it clean!

    2. Re:Not Surprising at All... by Malc · · Score: 5, Interesting

      You're right. I'd never seen people with many warts on their hands (yes, I felt I had to qualify that ;)) until I worked at my first job. In fact, I'd hardly ever seen warts in my life. In that one company of about 20 people at least 5 people had 5 or more warts on their hands. Unsurprisingly I got my first wart within a year. Very virulent and took a long time to get rid of them. Before my immune system finally kicked in I had more than 30... and now I have few scars from the N2 treatment that was applied to some of them. I blame keyboards for this (and sharing them). Filthy things. Spreaders of disease!

    3. Re:Not Surprising at All... by A+Bugg · · Score: 5, Funny

      Sure blame the "new job" for all of your warts. I think we all know the REAL reasons you got all those warts.

  9. ALWAYS wash your hands after using a public keybrd by Killswitch1968 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Seriously. All manner of filth just accumulates just below the keys.
    I'd like to know why no one has come up with a decent, washable keyboard. Most of the ones on the market are way too expensive are just too impratical. Are there some engineering problems with the design? Outside of the whole water-and-electricity-don't-mix thing I mean.

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  10. Metastory reports: by xenotrout · · Score: 5, Funny

    Everything is dirtier than a toilet! It's really that simple. Everyone should start making things out of toilets.
    1) Find everything to be dirtier than toilets
    2) Make things out of toilets
    3) Profit!
    There's no missing step! Well, except that these things will not actually be toilets, and thus will be found dirtier than toilets. But why? Because people know that toilets are "dirty", and thus clean them! So many things are assumed to be clean because they are not specifically used in a way that would seem to make them dirty, and so they don't get cleaned. No story here, move along.

  11. This isn't really surprising... by iswm · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Really, when you think of your computer area, you don't think of bacteria as you would when you think about a bathroom, so you're less inclined to clean it to the extent you would a bathroom. But either way, pretty much everything else is as equally as bacteria ridden. It's like the test they did on Myth Busters where they tested to see if a tooth brush left by the toilet would really pick up fecal matter, and they found out that tooth brushes all over the building had the same amount of fecal matter on them after a month of use.

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  12. And? by IHateUniqueNicks · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I never have understood this obsession of counting the number of small living creatures around us. Now, count what behaviors/locations are more likely to make us actually sick, and you've got my interest, but it's pretty rare I see a study that actually says something along the lines of "cleaning with anti-bacterials will reduce the likelyhood of you getting sick" (in fact, I've only seen ones that show no difference).

    The human body has evolved to be pretty capable of protecting against the things around us people now call "gross", and the rarer diseases that we come in contact with generally aren't stopped by staying "clean" anyhow.

  13. Re:Infections I've gotten from keyboards: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Up here in the Great White North we had a bit of a pinkeye outbreak a few years ago. There was a particularly virulent strain that made its way onto campus, and spread like crazy via all the public computer keyboards. Word on the street was that between half and two-thirds of the campus might have had pinkeye that winter. The CDC even sent some people up to study it. Just goes to show what a few dirty keyboards can do.

  14. Same goes for any electronics. by Cyno01 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As long as you power it down AFAP (yank from wall if necessary) water is not that damamging to electronics. If not cleaned up it can delaminate PCBs and destroy caps, but if left off and dried well it'll work fine. Other things, esp sticky thinks (soda, get your minds outa the gutter...) can be cleaned up by rinsing with water and then drying. Not a fix 100% of the time, but usually works out pretty well.

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  15. Just to be on the safe side by commodoresloat · · Score: 5, Funny

    Best not to stick the keyboard in your colon either.

    1. Re:Just to be on the safe side by pyrrhonist · · Score: 5, Funny
      Best not to stick the keyboard in your colon either.

      There's already a colon on the keyboard. Oh, wait...

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  16. I have a shitty keyboard by zakezuke · · Score: 5, Funny

    Damn microsoft natural keyboard

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  17. The userbase must be pretty sad... by zakezuke · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...when the mods consider "don't pick your asshole and THEN use the keyboard" to be informative. Is slashdot hygiene really this awful?

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