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Fighting Terrorists Through Software, Anonymously?

Silwenae writes "MSNBC has a story online from this week's Newsweek about Jeff Jonas, founder of System Research and Development. SRD's software attempts to verify a person is who he says he is, and then tries to determine who that person may be connected with. Originally used in casinos, the CIA has invested in SRD for use in the war against terrorism. Apparently, Jonas has developed a system that can anonymize the data being analyzed through hashing, so the government can share this information with the private sector to look for hits, without the private sector seeing the specific data."

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  1. Who has access to our data? by myownkidney · · Score: 5, Informative
    The question is, who exactly has access to our data?

    The credit card companies, for example, have access to a LOT of data. People seem to be content with that.

    And it is ridiculous how much information about your activities are already out there, though not publicly accessible, accessible to certain organisations.

    I think the scariest bit about this article is that casinos have access to your, YES YOUR, data. And if casinos can do that, so can the mafia.

    The government having access to all this information is only a part of the problem. The real problem is, how much of it is available to bad guys, like telemarketeers and the Russian Mafia.

  2. Re:Using Hashing by CountBrass · · Score: 4, Informative

    Brute forced? Nope. Assuming they picked a decent secure hashing algorithm (ie something like a 3-pass SHA-256 and definately not MD-5) then brute forcing isn't feasible.

    The weakness is not in the hash algorithm, it's in the use the hash is being put to. See my other post for an explanation.

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  3. Err no. by CountBrass · · Score: 4, Informative

    Hashing != encryption.

    Encryption is intended to be unencrypted.

    Hashing is one way because it involves information loss. It is not encryption: there is nothing secret. For example simple hashing algorithm might be "take the ascii value for each character in string and add them all up, rolling over each time you reach 10,000". The result will be a hash. Which is dependent on the data you put in- is impossible to *directly* extract the original data (you could use a lookup table to do it). As I said though, this is NOT encryption.

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  4. Re:Freedom for security by SQL+Error · · Score: 3, Informative
    Except that Benjamin Franklin never said that.

    What he did say is this: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

    Puts it in a different light, doesn't it?

    And the bodycount site you link to is, not to put to fine a point on it, a complete lie. Deaths of Iraqi civilians caused by our (and their) enemies is presented as though it was caused by the US and its allies. And even that needs to be contrasted against the thousands of deaths directly caused by the Iraqi government before it was removed from power.

    You ask: "When will people learn that labelling people "terrorists" and killing them just creates new "terrorists" at an exponential rate?"

    The answer is clearly never, because the latter does not in fact happen.

    "As far as these "terrorists" are concerned, America and the UK are "terrorists" too."

    The terrorists are the ones deliberately seeking to maximise the civilian death toll. Since US and allied troops are seeking to minimise civilian casualties - at risk of their own lives - they are quite clearly anti-terrorists.

    Save your anti-American rhetoric for when America actually does something wrong.

  5. Re:The terrorists are winning... NOT by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 3, Informative

    The US governments reactions to terrorist threats are exactly what the terrorists wanted.

    How so?

    • They wanted to topple the current government of Saudi Arabia. Hasn't happened.
    • They wanted the US "out of the Middle East". Er ... maybe you haven't been paying attention, but the opposite has happened.
    • They wanted to strike at us in our homeland and have us rattle our saber and make "strong statements" in futility. Instead, we flattened their base of operations and replaced the government, flattened one of their allies and replaced the government, and have been rounding them up apace.