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Anand Reviews Athlon 64 FX-53
trickofperspective writes "Anandtech has a review of AMD's latest processor, the Athlon 64 FX-53. Long story short -- the FX-53 is a "very solid processor," but you'd be better off waiting a couple months for Socket 939."
Tom's review is here.
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It just means that it has buffer overflow protection integrated into the silicon. This is just good engineering practice rather than an Orwellian plot. The article just dumbed it down.
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Intel was forced into this due to the many variations of a chip with the same clock speed. It's also a good way for them to explain why their Pentium-m is faster than the Pentium 4-m.
As covered by arstechnica, there are also reviews at [H]ardOCP, Hexus, HotHardware.com, Sudhian, and The Tech Report. AMD's official announcement is here.
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Well since every other major architecture except IA-32 has NOEXEC or similar I would imagine that every Free OS has such code already, it might need to be ported and cleaned up but most of the work should already be done. Also XP SP2 should have it later this year.
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There are times to wait for the next best thing...
AMD's 754 and 940 will be replaced by 939s (I think). If you don't think you will ever want to upgrade this CPU, it doesn't matter what you choose. I think the 939s are dual channel though (754 is single).
BUT... as for current AMD motherboards, PCI Express isn't around and is a _MUST_ at this point. PCI Express will be taking over from this point forward. This means future video cards _may not_ be available for AGP setups. I bet the higher end cards won't be at all.
I haven't upgraded a CPU in any computer I have, but I have upgraded vid cards. I am sure AMD boards will have PCI Express soon. If you are thinking of buying, let this be your reason to hold off.
Been wanting to go back to a true Dual system, (my last was a Dual P3-800, My Dual P2-400 is my Linux box) Keeping an eye out on prices for a new modern Dual system compared to a fast AMD FX.
You can pick up a Dual AMD-2800 for about 500 bux for a barebones cpu's+mb+case (also uses PC2100 ram). Opterons for dual systems are ridiculously priced, 248's are about 900 bux each, and motherboard for 300, so about 2500 dollars for a basic barebones system. Dual Xeon 3.2's with 1meg cache are about the same price, but xeon motherboards are less "workstation" friendly, and more expensive. ( PCI-64 slots, etc)
Also with PCI-X gfx cards about to be released, a bunch of new motherboards will come out. And It looks like Socket 940 is going to be phased out later this year for Socket 939, so a FX buy might be a locked in purchase, with no upgrades. Which the Opteron uses 940, so I'm a little confused about the Opteron's upgrade path.
Hoping if I want 6 months, the prices for Opterons will be down enough to build a basic dual system, with PCIExpress, and at least 2+ ghz CPU's. Something that will be fast as an FX in gaming, but also have the dual cpu smoothness feel with power of running virtual machines and crunch numbers well.
The Xeon line is cheaper, maybe some new motherboards might come out and bump it up to the system im thinking about.
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If some boards don't include something that's required by the specs, well, that's problem of the greedy bastards manufacturing such crap and the fools tricked into buying them.
Tech Report's review tests the FX-53 against a total of sixteen other chips. Good reading if you've got a benchmark fetish, too.
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Actually, there is always the Opteron 1XX processors, which is the same thing, and that line will be socket 940 for quite a while.
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Opteron and FX are both socekt 940, both dual channel with registered memory. Opteron for server, FX for enthusiast crowd. A64 are socket 754, single channel, for main stream. Not too hard of a thing to understand. I think AMD's done a pretty good job of seperating the opteron name from the xp and 64 line, where you know the price is backed up with its top notch performance. Besides, K7 was never mentioned like that, it was always the Athlon. Same thing with K8, Athlon 64
>>This means future video cards _may not_ be available for AGP setups. I bet the higher end cards won't be at all.
ATI will be producing both AGP and PCI-Ex versions of their GPUs. Nvidia will use a PCI-Ex to AGP bridge chip that can be added by a manufacturer to their cards so AGP will be supported. It's safe to say that you will see AGP products for at least 6 months to a year before PCI-Ex takes over.
There is one very good reason to wait for 939. It supports unbuffered DDR Ram. RAM that most people are using with their Pentium 4 Dual DDR chipsets. Socket 940 is usable only with Registered ECC DIMMS which are more expensive and a bit harder to get a hold of.
So I assume that many people, like myslef, will take those 2 sticks of DDR 3200 RAM they invested in for their P4/875 setups, and use them in their Socket 939 motherboards.
Thanks to this minor oversight in the design of IA-32, we have gone a long time without the benefit of hardware execute protection. There are software kludges that try to work around this (like working around the 386 bug with page write protection), but a hardware solution will be more robust and speedy.
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Different architectures. Intel chips have longer instruction pipes that allow them to run faster, but have the penalty of worse branch prediction. Compilers have a lot of branches, which automatically favour AMD chips (same for Office apps). Intel will do better in MP3 encoding, video encoding, etc, where the raw processer speed gives it the edge.