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New RFC Considers .sex TLD Dangerous

netcentric writes "A post on CircleID has reported about an RFC prepared by Donald E. Eastlake 3rd and Declan McCullagh, CNET News.com's Washington D.C. correspondent, analyzing proposals from various parties to mandate the use of special top level domain names (such as .sex or .xxx) or an IP address bit to flag 'adult' or 'unsafe' material or the like. The analysis explains why these ideas are dangerous and ill considered from legal, philosophical, and technical points of view. Here is the post to this report on CircleID along with some commentaries and link to the entire RFC 3675."

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  1. FPFPFP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    FRIST PSOT

  2. Goatse by nulltransfer · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Does .cx also count?

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    1. Re:Goatse by Xailia · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      .cx is the domain extention of christmas island, and some people thought it cleaver to combine it with goatse.

    2. Re:Goatse by Pieroxy · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Congratulations. You now have officially no sense of humour.

    3. Re:Goatse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      >>and some people thought it cleaver to combine it with goat

      whatever your gonna do with a goat and a cleaver, i don't wanna know about it.

    4. Re:Goatse by Chundra · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Personally I think it should be .cum, as in, "during the dot cum bubble, layoffs were considered a good thing". It just has a nice ring to it.

    5. Re:Goatse by Xailia · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      I never did. *grin*

    6. Re:Goatse by shadowbearer · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Wasn't the "cleaver" part, was it? *grin*

      SB

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    7. Re:Goatse by Johnny5000 · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      ".cx is the domain extention of christmas island, and some people thought it cleaver to combine it with goatse."

      Merry Christmas! Time to open your present!

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  3. The secret code 8) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Welsh has lots of vowels. The secret is that 'w' and 'y' are vowel sounds in Welsh. Its actually fairly phonetic so learning to pronounce Welsh place names isn't too hard, even if "cwmtwrch" initially looks as terrifying as Polish.

  4. Re:Their gender detection code leaked already!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    That code is so bloated! Here is a more optimized Slashdot gender detection routine:

    #include <Slashdot.h>

    char* gender;

    char* main(){
    gender = "male";
    return gender;
    }

  5. Re:Is the press release in piggish by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Something like this doesn't really *need* 3D graphics though. Would The Simpsons be any better if they got Mainframe to do the animation?

    If the focal selling point of a game is that it's in 3D, then that game shouldn't be made. Gameplay and entertainment value are why games should be made.

  6. Big surprise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    OK now let me make sure I have all of this straight. Wednesday is the day the SCO quarterly non-earnings report will be released, which most likely won't be good news. So, on Tuesday, the day before the report is released, SCO makes a stock, I mean lawsuit announcement. Do I detect a pattern here?

  7. Re:Their gender detection code leaked already!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Bad code!

    That should be

    const char *main()
    {
    const char *gender;
    gender = "male";
    return gender;
    }

  8. i.e. when techies get tired of working for free... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    It's encouraging to see unemployeed techs finally taking advantage of all that time they spent fixing friends computers for free. I know I'm usually the first one several of my friends and family call when their computer starts acting weird, and all they want to do is send email.

    Now if somebody was really smart, they'd find a way to get partnered with the local Best Buy and could probably turn it into a full time job. You'd be amazed at how much people are willing to pay if you can bring some sanity to their assorted home electronics. My mom loves the 3 page FAQ I made for her that goes step by step how to do everything with the home theatre system my Dad has. She used to not watch any DVDs just because she was scared to touch anything.

  9. Some have the wrong idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    This is not meant to replace a score editor!!!

    Analogous to the world of word processing, this software is more in the category of software like TeX, LaTeX, or even Postscript and PDF, to a lesser extent. This is software made for pretty printing music. It is meant to do this job, and this job alone very, very well. While one could edit it directly (it's not that difficult to work with), that would be something like using a flathead screwdriver on a screw that is clearly a Philips.

    What people should do is look for a score editor that can export LilyPond documents. I'll help start you off:

    I'm sure there are others out there.
  10. This is BS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I don't think that the general public wants to be lied and cheated. They want features, yes, but they want to actually get those features. The current "it's normal and expected to get shafted" situation is not normal, and not what that public was asking for.

    In fact, it's the textbook study of why society needs laws, and why they have to be applied. Because otherwise what happens is that the crooks create a pressure on everyone else to be a crook too.

    E.g., if you let some merchants sell contraband or counterfeit goods, it will create a pressure on the other merchants to start selling contraband or counterfeit too. Otherwise their prices won't be competitive. So everyone starts trying to outdo the others in how much of their merchandise is from dubious sources.

    The same happens here. Once a company is allowed to cut costs by shipping non-functional products, it just puts a pressure on everyone else to do the same thing. Because otherwise someone who actually spends the time to finish and thoroughly debug a product, can't compete with the snake oil peddlers on either price or time to market. So everyone starts trying to outdo the others on cutting down quality.

    That kind of thing doesn't go away by itself. Never did, never will. You need a legal system to stop it.

    And saying that everyone needs to waste countless hours of their life trying to avoid getting screwed is, if you'll pardon my saying so, completely idiotic. It's as idiotic as saying that your only recourse to spam should be sorting your mails yourself by hand.

    There are laws and courts of law for this kind of thing. If I sell you a house which isn't even built yet, you'd sue the pants off me. If I sell you a car, except what I can give you is just two wheels and a spoiler, you'd sue the pants of me. No "EULA" will let me say it's OK to shaft you, in any other industry.

    It's time the same applied to software too. (Yes, including firmware.)

    Because this kind of generalized thievery and snake oil peddling is already too high a cost for society as a whole. Not only hundred billions of dollars per year are lost to basically legalized scamming in this industry. We're also talking billions of hours total shaved off people's lives, where they have to work around bugs or to read reviews to make sure their new product will even work at all.

    Those hours by themselves are too high a cost.

    A murderer can be put to death for... what? Shortening someone's life by, say, 20 years? That's approximately 20 * 365 * 24 = 175,200 hours.

    Well, these scammers cost society as a whole a thousand times more hours off everyone's lives. Each year.

    Now I'm not asking to actually give those marketroids a death by firing squad. But throwing some of them in state jails would be a damn good start.

    Either way, again: history has shown again and again that this kind of thing needs laws. And it needs them actually applied.

  11. Re:Fair Use by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Almost good. How about,

    What do you think needs to be done to ensure that our rights of Fair Use are preserved in this digital age?

  12. Other ways to timeshift (not just audio) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Rearrange your work schedule so you start at 7am and get off at 3pm or 4pm. By hitting the streets at semi- off hours you will cut your commute time by possibly half (less traffic.) Time saved : 1 hour per day on the average.

    By hitting your seat at 7am when the office is empty and quiet you can get more productive sooner, and get more done between 7am and 9am than most people have done by noon.

    Let a woman take you clothes shopping, throw out everything in your closet and replace it with whatever she suggests. Make sure everything matches everything else. Time saved : none, but nobody will know you got dressed in the dark before you had caffeine in your system.

    Don't sleep in on weekends. Get up at your regular time instead of 11am and you have effectively doubled the number of hours of daylight you get on each weekend day. God I love to sleep in so I hate this one.

    Get your news from FARK (www.fark.com) In the hour it takes to watch the news on TV you could have a synopsis of the important events around the globe from a hundred different news sources. If it is newsworthy, it's on FARK.

    Cancel your MMORPG accounts (stop playing Everquest). This will give you back 1000 hours per year. Maybe more.

    It sounds like a lot of work, but it's really just pushing a bunch of keys on a keyboard and clicking on a mouse.

  13. worth whose money? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I can understand that you like the chairs. I spend more than I should on fancy pens, and one can reasonably argue that they're not the smartest thing for me to spend my money on. On the other hand, it is MY MONEY (at least until it goes for taxes, my gf, etc.)

    The problem isn't that any of these items such as the Herman Miller chairs, the Hummers (although I could be convinced on that one...) or the Harleys aren't good, but that they're bought with someone else's money. Like the Tyco and Enron folks now, the dot-com people spent their investors' money as if it was given for their personal enjoyment rather than to fund a business intended to succeed. Items such as the above are good products, but their costs to individuals are not in most cases worth the benefits to the individuals. On the other hand, things like this are good if the money is someone else's; then the only comparison required is whether you could buy something else with which you would be happier with the money.

    Bottom line - if these items are worth your money, buying them makes sense. If it isn't worth your own money to buy them, however, than it certainly isn't the job of your investors or companies to buy them for you, and they are ultimately counterproductive to the missions those people intended to achieve (because the money could almost certainly be used for things more likely to achieve their ends). When companies buy these things, someone else almost certain got ripped off to buy them - whether it is their customers, investors, or others in the company. Their presence says that the people running the show treat other people's money as their own personal piggy bank, and such people aren't to be trusted (at least not with my money).

  14. Re:I guess that'll show em. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Hmm.. yeah, since a recent update I can no longer run a.out binaries from the 2.x era... but for as far as external packages and ports are concerned, thats about the first case where you can't get software for older releases to work with a current version using one of the compatxx packages.

    That said, some tools (esp those using kmem) should be kept in sync with the kernel, and when at it, why not just build a new userland, its easier then figuring out what you have to update.

    The concurrently developing BSD variatiens allow trying out a variety of low level solutions to problems while sharing a lot of their experiences.

    Such diversity doesn't really exist in GNAA/Linux despite its zillion distributions (which provide a lot of variation in user experience tho)

  15. Re:Geez by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    What's a porn site?

  16. April Fools is coming by Gadzinka · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Subject says it all ;)

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  17. Amen! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I agree! It used to be that the average mom & pop or even home enthusiast could purchase the "decoding" machines or the books that translated the engine light codes. Those days ended around 1992, I believe. As a car enthusiast and do-it-yourselfer, it's irritating as hell to have to pay an exorbitant fee to some dealer just to tell me what the computer THINKS is wrong with my car. 9 times out of 10, it's just some sensor somewhere that is malfunctioning and needs replacing. Usually, if the sensor weren't there, the car would run fine, too. I'll take my good-old v8 any day over cars with 50 million sensors that go bad.

  18. Re:LOL U R A DOOFUS MODERATOR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic


    probably an anti-slash.org/gnaa moderator.

  19. *come on* button up by tgraupmann · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Putting all the porn under the .xxx or .sex domain is as necessary as adding the front button to pants. Did anybody question the person that invented the zipper????????

  20. Re:Their gender detection code leaked already!! by Permission+Denied · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    const char *main()

    ISO/IEC 9899:1999 ("C9x") section 5.1.2.2 specifies that the function called at program startup shall be called "main"; furthermore, that function must return int. If you define a function called "main" in a program running on a conforming hosted environment, your function must return int.

    Your code is undefined. HAND.

  21. .cum TLD by glavenoid · · Score: 1, Offtopic
    I can't believe someone posted this before me! I've been pushing the .cum TLD with the IETF ever since I discovered that there is porn on the internet... Which was last week... When I felt lonely...

    Seriously though, every time one mistypes a URL, one invariably winds up at a pr0n site. If porn had its own TLD, perhaps this might change.

    (Pppffffttttt. Yeah right!) At least it might make it easier to find quality porn on the net ;)

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  22. Re:in soviet russia by shadowbearer · · Score: 0, Offtopic



    Seems like a lot of government organizations in the US have forgotten their history... nothing new, there.

    What are the *real* issues in this years election campaign again? I forget....

    sigh.

    SB

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  23. blixxblizz by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    psdokdkkdkdddgg
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  24. Whabbi Loonies by Zeinfeld · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    >I believe in cultural relativism, Whahabi 'islam' is barbaric relative to any acceptable moral standards.
    You do realize that that is one of the most breath-taking oxymorons I've ever seen uttered on Slashdot? If you're willing to label a culture "barbaric relative to any acceptable moral standards", then you are not a relativist. You believe that there are absolute standards applicable to all cultures and that there can therefore be cultures in violation of those standards.

    Its this thing called a >joke The use of 'acceptable' here was deliberate. I did not say 'true'. There can be no absolute definition of 'acceptable', but there is certainly an intersubjective definition. The closest we get to an absolute standard would be a Rawlsian original position, although the term 'veil of ignorance' starts to take on an ironic meaning in this case.

    The very worst aspect of Whahabi islam is the absolutism, the claim to absolute knowledge of what is right, everything else, the treatment of women, the lack of all basic political rights follows from that absolutism.

    I think that like many right wing critics of cultural relativism you miss the point. Just because a moral code might have internal logical consistency does not mean that it is acceptable. The point is that the absolutist moral convictions of John Ashcroft are no more acceptable than Whahabi absolutism.

    Once you accept the 'Open Society' position that George Sorros and Karl Popper advocate, that there is no absolute truth then there is no place for a Whahabi state or an Ashcroftian state.

    What we could do is to join the two ideas. The big problem with the Rawlsian veil of ignorance argument is that it is untestable. But the situation we have in liberal society is pretty similar. The question becomes, would anyone accept an Ashcroftian or Whahabi state if they did not already live in one and if they did not know what role they would have in it?

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  25. Re:you already can by trick-knee · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I guess pointing out spyware is now a troll.

    oh, please. it wasn't the spyware stuff. look it up :

    usage Nigger in senses 1 and 2 can be found in the works of such writers of the past as Joseph Conrad, Mark Twain, and Charles Dickens, but it now ranks as perhaps the most offensive and inflammatory racial slur in English.