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eBay Fraud Vigilantes

firstadopter.com writes "New York Times (free registration needed) is reporting that users are sick of internet fraud on eBay. With lack of help from the company, they are taking the law into their own hands and closing down auctions they think are obvious scams."

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  1. Reg Free Link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
  2. Expensive Electronics Cheap Scams, not taken down by setzman · · Score: 5, Informative
    Like these "Alienware" scams I saw yesterday when looking for a system? By the way, these are still up now.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item =2795846600&category=52476

    ***Please note, this auction is not selling the electronics themselves,we're selling electronic book packages that get you listed on a revolving list at our website. For list information and any other questions please visit our webpage @ www.revbuys.com--$220.00

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item =2795844320&category=52476

    **You are not buying the actual item, you are buying a link to a website where you can obtain the item for around a $250 US dollars. Link also includes lots of other good deals on nice electronics** $5.00

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item =2795281687&category=52476

    Please Read Auction Carefully. Winner will recieve information on where they can buy an Alienware Area-51 Extreme for only 275$. This is perfectly legal and I am usuing mine right now. Only one Alienware 275$ computer per household, so you can see why I am not selling the computers, but I am working on that.--$49.99

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item =2795708246&category=40176

    Please Read Description Carefully Before You Bid! you are not buying any electronics in this auction. Here are some examples of the amazing deals you will get upon winning this auction:

    Products:


    JL Audio 10w7 Subwoofer: $100
    Sony DVD/CD Changer: $100
    Sony Motorized indash 7" LCD: $100
    Exhaust Systems from $50
    NOS Kits: $100
    Body Kits: $100
    Playstation 2: $40
    Video Games: $20
    Gateway 42" Plasma TV: $200
    Sony DVD Dream Surround System: $100
    Sony Digital Camcorder: $100
    40GB Apple iPod: $115
    Compaq iPaq PDA: $50
    Panasonic Portable DVD Player: $50
    Alienware Desktop or Laptop: $275
    Sony VIAO Desktop: $150
    Sony VIAO Laptop: $100

    AND MANY MANY MANY MORE!!!!

    Shipping is absolutely free!, If you have any questions, please feel free to email us at http://TankDoggSC@aol.com $3.00

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item =2795726979&category=52476

    The item for sale isnt the real PC.the highest bidder will recieve the link to the site where you can purchase it for 160/275$.WHOEVER SAID ''THIS ISNT A REAL PC JUST A BUNCH OF LINKS'' MEANS THEY DID NOT READ THIS. $5.50-6 bids

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  3. www.paypalsucks.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Following is my opinion only:

    Don't use paypal's "withdraw from bank account" option. Use the credit card option. If something goes wrong and you go past 30 days - your are screwed. My experience is that Paypal (an ebay company) is the worst in getting problems resolved.

    www.paypalsucks.com

  4. Don't forget Paypal scams! by Genghis9 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Recently bought a router, the seller shipped a hard drive to me by mistake. After emailing back and forth I sent the hd back, but no router. Seller stops responding to emails. So what happens when I fill out the Paypal form to try and get a refund?

    They have an item asking if you received ANYTHING in the mail. So I checked that off. Bad mistake! They classified the report as "misrepresented item"!!!! Then a few days later closed the complaint saying they didn't do anything in those cases!

    Paypal = SCAM CITY

    Lesson: accept Paypal payments for expensive items and mail a jellybean to the buyer. Paypal will support you all the way.

  5. Re:Expensive Electronics Cheap Scams, not taken do by LostCluster · · Score: 5, Informative

    These are the latest variant on a pyramid scheme. Basically, people are paying today for a wait list for a product that will be delivered whenever the waiting list gets long enough to have enough money to buy your item. Early people on the list will in fact get their items, but as the list gets longer, the wait gets exponentially longer until the world runs out of fools to supply and the list stops growing. The people caught "below the line" when the scheme colapses end up paying to wait in a line that has stopped moving... they'll never get their stuff.

  6. Re:I used to vigilante too by PhotoBoy · · Score: 5, Informative

    I didn't want to give many details since it might give scammers hints (not that I did anything really clever here), but since I've given the impression I spend my days snooping people's emails, I'll try to go into some detail. The first thing to tip me off was just the large number of signups from the same address. At first I thought it was another 419er.

    Next I checked his sign up details, he'd created 50 accounts all with the same details (e.g. firstname, lastname, address were all identical). Finally, earlier that week I had noticed a large amount of traffic from eBay's mail system, delivering lots of emails to these accounts.

    With a give away like that I did one final check by looking up some of his addresses on eBay. He was selling satellite nav, plasma TVs etc, and all of it was way too cheap for what it was worth. At this point I thought that if he wasn't scamming, why set up 50 separate accounts? The whole point of the eBay feedback system is that lots of good feedback shows you are a trustworthy seller. So by then I was certain he was up to no good and checked one of his mailboxes, which revealed the last of his tricks:

    The guy would open an auction, and invite potential buyers to email him any questions about the product. When he'd got enough "fish on the hook" he would close the auction and email the "fish" telling them he was having problems with eBay but he was still willing to sell if they were interested. He then asked if they would mind paying him directly.... Since he only had 1 of each product to sell on eBay it was clear he was trying to sell the same thing multiple times and by being paid directly he was skipping the relative safety of PayPal et al. At which point I slapped the auto-responders on and locked his accounts.

    It is a condition in our T&Cs that we reserve the right to inspect an account if we suspect illegal activity, but I only exercise that right if I am absolutely sure there is something going on. Usually this means an email sent to the abuse address with headers that prove the email came from our system.

    Now, if you think eBay scammers are bad, try keeping 419ers of your system. Luckily the rise of broadband means they usually have the same IP address for extended periods of time. So when we are informed of a scamming account we can find all of their other accounts at the same time.