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Intel 32/64-bit Nocona CPU

OCGeek writes "A picture of the upcoming Nocona processor of the Xeon family that has 64-bit extensions known as Intel EM64T has appeared on VR-Zone website. Nocona will have 604 pins and supports HyperThreading, SSE3, PCI Express, DDR2, Vanderpool technology."

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  1. stuff that matters & corepirate nazi sponsorsh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    it can't help but be buyassed? not unlike the moon/mars/bars shot.

    consult with/trust in yOUR creators.... get ready to witness the disempowerment of unprecedented evile.

  2. Thank You! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Finally. It's about time that people started to realize that electronics are complicated things and that it takes competent people to fix them. People don't do their own wiring or own plumbing, (well, most people) and they shouldn't. I think that the reason that electronics haven't passed into the realm of "let the professionals handle it" is because with electrical wiring, you can get shocked and die and with plumbing you can get covered with sewage or scalding water. Personally, I am glad that this I-can-do-it-myself mindset is starting to fade. Although, I do think that $125/hour is a bit much.

  3. Re:That's okay - Holy cow 40 Million lines of code by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Give MS a frickin' break....MS said there is going to be something like 40 *million* lines of code...

    Just out of curiosity, I counted the lines of code (both c & assembler, all processors) of the 2.6.4 kernel. It is less than 5.5 million.

    40 million lines of code. There's all the reason I ever need to not use it.

    With 40 million lines of code, you never fix bugs, the best you can hope for is to relocate them to a really obscure place.

  4. Re:Owners reputation. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Except that he has 19 comments from SELLERS, which means he was buying, not selling on Ebay.

  5. Wow... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I'm feeling like I could be the 6 trillion dollar man any year now... between this, powered exoskeletal legs, I'll be a super sapper in no time. I wonder how much of this my beloved US Army has actually looked into.

  6. Re:Fair Use by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    And the other side of the coin:

    What do you think needs to be done to ensure that the rights of creators and artists are preserved in the digital age?

    Suppose it is determined that a solution that both protects the producer's copyrights and the consumer's fair-use rights is not possible. Which side's rights deserve more protection?

  7. Poor Site by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    slashdot++

  8. at the risk of performing the political troll... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Interesting how we see strong-arm tactics against some aussie warez-puppy, but we don't see them waltzing into Moscow to shut down the mass-piracy of the Russian mafia groups, or the cd-r markets throughout Asia.

    I guess this is to be expected from a government that will storm into a crippled-to-the-level-of-impotence Iraq to stop them from developing, err, "weapons of mass destruction", but will just cautiously sidestep any country of real WMD threat (China, NK, Israel).

    Seems to be another case of break the weakling orpahan to keep the rest in line.

  9. Question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I seem to have misplaced my ass. Could you please help me find it?

  10. Code not very tolerant of my machine! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    I finished building the shell after I changed the code that uses a non-standard way of printing the usage message, show_help() in src/ftsh.c. In emacs, I replaced ^\(.*\)\\$ with "\1", and then went back and changed the lines that did not end in a backslash, removed the beginning and ending quotes.

    Then it compiled (on Fedora Core 1).

    Then it failed the functions test, because my computer does not have the file/etc/networks. For a fault tolerant shell, it does not seem very tolerant of my machine! After sudo touch/etc/networks, make succeeded.

    Anyway, those were the only two problems, and now it's installed. Let's see if it's worth building into an RPM package.

  11. Re:Feel sorry for VR-Zone by DaHat · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Curse you! You beat me to saying it.

    It's a shame Slashdot has no scruples when it comes to who they DoS.

  12. Re:Pack the bags! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Forget mapping it, actually play in it! That complex is just screaming out to be used as a paintball/laser tag arena. Imagine the orange warning lights spinning around and a computerised female voice 'Thirty seconds till missile launch' over the sound system.

    Hell, with the strength of the pound against the dollar even I might buy it! $3,950,000 that's like, what, 2 grand of my money? (just getting one back for the Canadians)

  13. ACID Filesystems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    For a system like this to be truly effective you would need an operating system which supported a truly transactional filesystem.

    Remounting a filesystem with ACID on, a process sets a rollback point , executing a series of commands with the operating system keeping a record of the changes to the filesystem made by the process and its children. The process would inform the OS to either commit or rollback the changes.

    This still raises questions on how to deal with with two or more competing "transactional" processes which rely on read information which another process chooses to rollback to an early state.

    1. Re:ACID Filesystems by maelstrom · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Ever heard of a journaled filesystem? :P

      --
      The more you know, the less you understand.
    2. Re:ACID Filesystems by dancingjj · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      I think the OS you are talking about is PIC ... running on HoneywellBull machines from the 80's.

    3. Re:ACID Filesystems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      You are missing an important point. The "I" in ACID stands for "isolated" and it means you wouldnt have this last problem that you raised. There wouldnt be two competing processes, because a transactional system effectively serializes operations. In other words, there is only one write-lock obtained at a time. And write locks can only be obtained when there are no read-locks outstanding.

    4. Re:ACID Filesystems by cr0sh · · Score: 0, Offtopic
      I think you mean PICK - "the original write-once, run anywhere" virtual machine!!!

      Ok, maybe not that grand, but damn near - did you know that there were PICK CPU's? That is, PICK BASIC, when compiled, compiled down to a form of assembler that ran on a PICK virtual machine, just like a JVM. Well, just the same, there were a few companies that created hardware implementations of that virtual machine as a CPU - to run the compiled code at much faster speeds (just like you have the more limited Java CPUs - the few that exist).

      But, all was not to be - like Java, CPU technology leapt ahead of of these real implementations, and PICK to this day continues to be run in "emulation" fashion (though it is termed a variety of different things - D3, Multi-Value, etc)...

      Crazy history PICK has...

      --
      Reason is the Path to God - Anon
    5. Re:ACID Filesystems by Ozric · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      You mean like OS/400 from IBM.

  14. Hey TACO by maelstrom · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Why don't you start reading your own site again?

    Pay attention man.

    --
    The more you know, the less you understand.
  15. Re:Alternative Article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    "Artificial lips as subtle as human lips
    The 35kg as yet unnamed robot has artificial lips which can alter their position as subtly as human lips as air is forced through them, enabling it to play a trumpet as it presses the stops with its hands."

    Am I the only one wondering...

  16. Imagine the eBay feedback on this one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Got my Titan Missile Complex but the tall backed leather chair did not swivel and the white cat was already dead when i got there! Avoid!!!!!!

  17. Non-Roman? Okay, community protest time! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Sedna? No. Plenty of people in this thread have complained about two facts - One, our planets have names derived from the Roman, not Inuit, panthon. And two, we already have a planet named after a sea-god, ie, Neptune.

    So, I propose that in protest to such a blatant attempt at PC Multiculturalism, we as a community refer to the tenth planet as Nox, the Roman goddess of night. Since it lies the furthest from the sun, that actually fits it, in a descriptive sense.

    Sedna... Whatever. Remember, we hear about this stuff months before your typical Fox news junkie, and people tend to respect us as sources of information. So spread the word - We have a new, tenth planet, named Nox. Sedna? Nope, they must have heard wrong. Nox. Nox? Nox!

  18. Re:Precedent? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    If you want to talk about precedent you should ask why has the US government has been running from nation to nation getting an exemption to US nationals from appearing before the International Criminal Court for jurisdiction over genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes.

    The US government wants to keep their nationals, especially government officials, out of any courts no in their control. Of course private citizens and government leaders of other nations are fair game.

    It doesn't look like precedent to me, it looks more like the US is doing it because they can.

  19. A heckler from the 18th Century by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Presenters of the music-playing machine found themselves being unmercifully heckled by a man calling himself Mssr. Jacques de Vaucanson, who proclaimed loudly that he had accomplished robotic music more than two hundred years prior to this demonstration.

    When the presenters pointed out that Mssr. Vaucanson would have to be long dead as of this late date, the suddenly horrified heckler collapsed into a pile of dust, and the remainder of the presentation was conducted without further interruption.

  20. Re:Mechanics for the 21st century by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    "I have never let my schooling interfere with my education."

    -- Mark Twain

  21. Haha! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    When I read the headline of this article, I thought it read: "Beer Bellies Really Do Stink"

  22. Video report about it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    There's a video about it here: video/mov,4MB
    Mentioned in news article from

  23. Filtering requires good email client by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I have found that many clients, such as Outlook Express, Outlook, Eudora, and, until recently, Thunderbird, do not have a way of supressing new mail notification even if an email is filtered by something like this. While it is nice that spam is separated from non-spam, it is really annoying to be interrupted every five minutes by arrival of spam.

  24. Geo (or larger) Politics and the human condition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic


    Back in April 2002, the UK government started to fund a centre studying both the near-earth-orbit rocks we know about, and ways of increasing awareness and detection rates, as well as investigating possible protection strategies.

    Personally I think it's just playing at people-politics, at least in the form the UK has done it $600k isn't going to go very far, but it's a relatively cheap purchase of public goodwill... On the other hand, at the moment I'll take what we can get.

    There's a tiny chance of life as we know it being destroyed. A really tiny chance, and one thing humans aren't good at is disaster-planning - even when the potential result is extinction, the "gut-feeling" is to say "it'll never happen", because none of us have any experience of it happening. This is short-sighted, we should be doing something.

    Although I don't think there's any reason to panic about it, the last great ecosystem was destroyed by (perhaps two, perhaps 1) asteroid, as far as we know. Researching, thinking, creating plans would probably be a good idea, at least IMHO.

    Simon

  25. Re:Slow Computers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I've found that provided the system have a good amount of memory, a pentium 2 is good enough to run most applications.

    I've been tweaking an older PII laptop (400MhZ, 192M) over the past few months. The idea was not to lose any functionality or "new" features (i.e., dropping a 2.2 based distro, the PII's contemporary OS, would be cheating). So far I'm extremely pleased. The machine is very functional, even faster in some respects than a newer Thinkpad T22 (800MhZ, 256M) because the video support is better.

    The main changes:
    * 2.6 kernel -- huge difference
    * Fluxbox instead of KDE/Gnome
    * NPTL
    * Rebuilt some apps with i686 optimizations
    * Config tweaks (default services, buffer sizes, etc)
    * Application substitutions (Firefox vs Mozilla, etc)

    I've been testing other things including:
    * Default fs (reiserfs vs ext3)
    * sshd default configs (blowfish vs des, etc)
    * MP3 vs OGG (about the same CPU, but I hear MP3 is nicer)
    * Adjusting timer resolution in kernel
    * Replacement syslog that batches writes

  26. Re:What's Vanderpool? by darkwiz · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Yeah, it's a technology few know about.

  27. Wired And Ready To Go! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I'm feeling so wired today.

  28. Burnt Starbucks coffee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I think the reason for the music tie-in is that there's more and more competition for the coffee-drinker's dollar and they need to come up with new ways to stand out. Within two blocks of my apartment, there's a Starbucks, a Seattle's best, and two local coffee houses. 10 minute's walk up the street, there a cluster of about 6 more coffee places, including 2 Starbucks at the same intersection.

    But between the insane cost and the burnt flavour of their coffee, I never go to Starbucks and the ability to put together a CD isn't going to entice me.

  29. Re:Worst idea since spell checkers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    just need to learn to spell and to ytype accuratly. -- QED - Quite Easily Done

    <Teal'c> Indeed </Teal'c>

  30. Re: EM64T? by Amorpheus_MMS · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    That should be "informative", though. ;)

  31. Point here has more to do with than just cars. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    The proposed law can only be a good thing. With more and more of everyday life becoming computerized, such codes could be used to shut people out from everything from their cars to their washing machines.

    The principle point here is: Does the public have the right to access and repair of their own violation property they have paid for? This can readily be applied to almost any manufactured good in the future. Let's face it, how many things do you buy anymore that aren't controlled by computer code?

  32. Dont understand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    We are forced to run SQL 7.0 Standard Edition so I have no Idea what any of these post are talking about. Sigh... I digress

  33. dwim? (Do what I mean) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Something perhaps like this?

  34. Trollin' trollin' trollin'... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    TROLLHIDE! I hereby declare this story to be a disaster zone. The maddest, most utterly insane props to whoever is responsible -- keep it up!

  35. My Chinese girlfriend's purple labia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    YHBT

  36. Intel Architecture 32 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I modified my system's RAM, video card, and operating system. After a grand total of $700 and the last week of my time she's fighting a little harder than last round. The current specs are as follows:

    • 2x Pentium Pro 266 MHz/1 MB L2
    • 66 MHz bus
    • 1,024 MB 5v 60ns non-ECC EDO RAM
    • 100 GB 7200 RPM EIDE hard drive
    • ATi Radeon 9200 Pro PCI
    • FreeBSD 5.1

    The FreeBSD 5.1 kernel was compiled with support for both of my CPUs and optimizations for the Pro specifically and its cache. I am running KDE 3.1 and can't complain about the speed at all it's much greater than Windows XP ever was. I have been in touch with a FreeBSD hacker who ensured my decision to move to this operating system instead of Linux was the way to go. The SMP and virtual memory subsystems in the FreeBSD kernel are much more efficient than either Windows or Linux. FreeBSD cost me nothing to install and only took a little time to compile the proper kernel.

    The four 256 MB chips cost $410 after tax and shipping/handling. Considering the RAM alone, performance is not what I would call a 2x increase over the 512 MB, but overall it did augment my system. The output below from a FreeBSD utility called top illustrates this. One thing I want to try is ECC RAM. It's 72-bit vs. non-ECC RAM which is 64-bit, and I think that switching my gigabyte of non-ECC RAM for ECC chips will give me more memory bandwidth and ergo the performance I was expecting in installing another 512 MB.

    Processes: 48 total, 4 running, 44 sleeping... 126 threads
    Load Avg: 2.26, 1.69, 1.30 CPU usage: 43.2% user, 56.8% sys, 0.0% idle
    SharedLibs: num = 117, resident = 52.8M code, 2.45M data, 7.87M LinkEdit
    MemRegions: num = 5359, resident = 109M + 9.91M private, 84.0M shared
    PhysMem: 260M wired, 390M active, 287M inactive, 937M used, 87M free
    VM: 2.38G + 82.5M 71607(0) pageins, 5190(0) pageouts

    Redraws are faster and I now have a vast array of bit-depths and monitor resolutions with my new Radeon 9200. I also went out and bought a 21" CRT monitor so I could enjoy a larger desktop without going blind. Though the 9200 has done little to affect overall system performance, I appreciate what it does for my graphics. In the very least any games for FreeBSD will fly 4x faster than before: The 9200 has 128 MB RAM where my Rage only had 32 MB. I'm happy with this addition to my system especially since I got a $20 rebate off of the $200 I paid for it.

    Aside from these tweaks my system remains the same. I can not boost the bus clock above 66 MHz. My 100 GB hard drive, due to BIOS limitations, is partitioned into several 16 GB slices. (I wonder if anyone knows of any BIOS hacks to overcome this limitation.) I believe I may finally be pushing the limits of my system's hardware and am looking at ways to optimize my operating system. Supposedly FreeBSD 5.2 is in beta now, and I've heard good things about something called QNX. Here's to any more suggestions to eek all of the power out of my dual Pentium Pro system.

  37. Value of the "secret data" is overrated by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    The usefulness of the proprietary data stream is overstated. I think it was in 94 that the first on-board diagnistic spec (OBD) appeared in mass production. Everyone was crying about it at the time. Amazingly, independent repair shops are still in business. Since then there have been refinements, but it basically defines a standard interface and subset data stream required on all production cars in the US. With an OBD capable scan tool and the proper manuals, any tech can diagnose any problem with any car. There might be a more robust data stream available to the dealer mechanic, but the true value of that extra data is trivial IMO.

    I left a 10 year career in auto repair (part of that post-OBD), where my specialty was driveability and electrical. The truly skilled technicians understand the system and don't necessarily depend on a particular tool to get their work done. An old-style analog oscilloscope is more valuable to a tech than any proprietary scan tool. The challenge is the diminishing number of techs that would know what to do with one.

  38. HEY DOUCHEBAG, THIS STORY IS ABOUT INTEL CHIPS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    1. Re:HEY DOUCHEBAG, THIS STORY IS ABOUT INTEL CHIPS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Hey look at me, I'm stupid, I'm writing everything in the subject line

  39. MORON, WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH INTEL CHIPS? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
  40. HEY ANUS FACE, THIS IS A STORY ABOUT INTEL NOCONA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
  41. FUCKING TEABAGGER, THIS IS A CPU STORY. YHBT YHL!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
  42. STUPID NIGGER, THIS IS AN INTEL CPU STORY, LOL! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
  43. HAHA YOU ARE JEALOUS BECAUSE YOU DONT KNOW HOW TO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic