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Intel's Pentium 4 3.4GHz Processors Reviewed

EconolineCrush writes "In one of the most gratuitous benchmarking indulgences I've seen, Tech Report has tested Intel's new Northwood and Prescott Pentium 4 3.4GHz processors against sixteen competitors ranging from the relatively old school Athlon XP to the opulent Pentium 4 Extreme Edition, with plenty of Athlon 64 action thrown in for good measure. Performance is tested in a wide range of applications, including gaming, rendering, image processing, media encoding, speech recognition, and scientific number crunching. Even if you're not interested in Intel's latest Pentium 4s, the review nicely shows where 18 of the fastest desktop chips from AMD and Intel stack up against each other."

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  1. Nice In-Place Ad by Davak · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Thanks to Corsair for providing us with memory for our testing. If you're looking to tweak out your system to the max and maybe overclock it a little, Corsair's RAM is definitely worth considering.

    Boy... I wonder how much memory Corsair donated for that wonderful little plug.

    I can tolerate Coke planting their product in sit-coms... but I don't think I would appreciate my newscaster saying "Coke is so refreshing" in the middle of a news story.

    Planting an obvious ad in the middle of "journalism" is just wrong.

    Davak

    1. Re:Nice In-Place Ad by nacturation · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Planting an obvious ad in the middle of "journalism" is just wrong.

      I don't see anything wrong about it. Imagine if you ran a tech review site and couldn't afford to equip all your various test machines with gigs of RAM each. Wouldn't you approach a company and ask if they could perhaps donate (or at least loan) you the equipment you needed? And, if they did such a thing, wouldn't it be nice to credit them for helping you out?

      I fail to see how this is a "plant". It would be suspect if this were a review of sound cards and, right in the middle of the article, it said "Hey, your system needs more memory... purchase Corsair RAM today!" then that would be a plant. It would be no different than somebody comparing operating systems and thanking IBM/Dell/whoever for loaning you the equipment to do a side-by-side comparison with realtime parameter tweaking rather than having to tediously reformat a single machine every time you want to test a new config.

      It's the lost art of the professional "thank you".

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  2. Re:Speed by jonjohnson · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you end up building your own system, you're right. However, there are still plenty of low-end graphics cards that companies stick into computers just to save another 50 bucks in the manufacturing cycle. When this happens, you still have the "top-of-the-line" graphics chipset, but the board doesn't have its own processor. Without the onboard processor, the CPU does matter.

    I remember a story in Wired a year or two ago that detailed how nvidia's CEO (or was it CTO.. it was a while ago) envisioned most of the workload for the computer on the graphics card, and the main CPU not needing to be very powerful. I wonder what he's thinking nowadays?

  3. Re:Speed by nacturation · · Score: 5, Insightful

    While all that processor speed is mighty good, who needs top-of-the-line equipment anymore? The new games all rely on the GFX card rather than the CPU. Any suggestions, other than the fact that Intel is keeping up to Moore's law?

    Many non-game apps are CPU bound, and speed is always desired in these situations. Examples include rendering, video compression, SETI@Home, etc. Likely you don't need a faster processor, but it doesn't mean that the business world sees it the same way. Heck, maybe some day these processors will power your graphics card too!

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  4. Wait 45 days before buying a new PC by amigoro · · Score: 1, Insightful
    Why not wait 1 year, 2 years, 3 years, a decade?
    After all, tomorrow never comes, especially in the Computing world.

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    1. Re:Wait 45 days before buying a new PC by sacremon · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The "wait 45 days" is likely in reference to the anticipated released of the 939-pin version of the Athlon 64 FX-53. The present 940 pin version requires registered RAM, which slows it down a bit. The 939-pin version will work with unregistered RAM, allowing it a boost in speed in many applications.

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  5. Pretty poor LinPack performance... by nickovs · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Taking the opportunity for a moment to troll, flame bait and be an annoying Apple user, I think it's worth commenting how piss-poor the P4's LinPack performance is. The Apple Xserve G5 gets 4.5 Gigaflops out of each of it's two 2GHz G5 processor when running HPC Linpack, as opposed to the 3.4GHx P4 "Extreme Edition" which peaks at just 1.3 Gigaflops. Anyone looking to do serious scientific calculations rather than just playing Quake should not be using Intel hardware these days; it just doesn't keep up with the PPC G5 for floating point.

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  6. Re:Speed by EulerX07 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This doesn't make sense. So you're saying that since some of the computers we can buy will come with a lousy graphic card, there's use for those cpus that costs 750+$?

    How about buying the version of the computer with the 150$ cpu and switching the video card for a 150$ mid-end card from ATI or Nvidia? You'd wipe the floor with the 3.4EE computer with a lousy graphic card, and save 450$.

    And also, how can you have both a "low-end graphic card" and a "top-of-the-line" graphic chipset? No offense, but the more I read your post the less insightful it gets.

  7. Vector processor by Colin+Smith · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Well, so far you've made the case for a vector processor, or an add on like AltiVec. How's about making one for a faster CPU?

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  8. Unbiased journalism by pwagland · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Now, sure, we don't expect these people to be totally unbiased, but where did they pull this from?:
    The Pentium 4 'E' is an absolute monster in workstation graphics, capturing the top spot in three of the six tests and tying for it in one more. In the other two, the Prescott 3.4GHz is second only to the Athlon 64 FX-53.
    By the way, that test that it tied? It tied it with the Athlon 64 FX-53. But then I guess they wouldn't get their advertising budget if they said:
    The Pentium 4 'E' and Athlon 64 FX-53 are roughly equal in workstation graphics, with the P4E winning three of the six tests the A64 FX-53 winning two, and they tied one test. Overall though there was less than 2% difference in any test.
  9. Re:LaGrande? by thatguywhoiam · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Even on Slashdot no-one seems to be bringing it up these days. For me, the benchmarks aren't even worth looking at with the knowledge that these processors are the beginning of the DRM revolution. Seems they're being able to sneak the technology inside every PC just as they've planned it.

    You bring up an excellent point, and one that I wonder about.

    At some point, the Slashdot/Ars/Tom's crowd and others who are a little more informed will identify the 'last great un-hobbled processor', i.e. the fastest thing you can buy before the Palladium/DRM stuff starts to become baked into the CPUs. Right now it looks like AMD and Intel will both be using some kind of Trusted (ahem) platform and BIOS. A lot of people will buy that processor(s) and then there will be a drop-off. As it is, not too many people get excited about the difference between 3 and 3.4 Ghz... ask yourself, which would you buy: a 'non-trusted' 3Ghz CPU or a DRM'd 3.4ghz?

    Of course the unwashed masses will not know the difference (it makes the interweb go fastar!!!!111!!1)... but the alpha geeks are the ones who pay the premium for the latest gear so AMD/Intel may actually register a hit in sales.

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  10. Re:Speed by shotfeel · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Examples include rendering, video compression,

    And lets not forget the fact that some of us like to listen to our own background music while playing a game on the computer duing the time it takes for our favorited DVD authoring applications to encode the video.

  11. Re:When not to take a review site seriously... by shotfeel · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Actually, I tend to take the results more seiously when the tester demonstrates they understand the limitations of the tests used and lays it on the line.