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Novell Makes More Open Source Moves
Roger Foss writes "Novell has announced it will release its cross platform iFolder file synchronization software as open source. This is pretty cool: far more transparent and easier to use than Unison or some of those friendly Rsync variants. iFolder does multi-master delta synchronization and is user friendly. The source software will be available at Novell's own Forge site and release under the GPL. This sure beats Novell's earlier open source efforts, when they released their proprietary IPX protocol stuff years ago. For those who want to try it, there's a live demo site that I doubt would withstand slashdotting."
Finally, mj01nir writes "According to Miguel de Icaza's web log, Chris Stone just announced that Novell will be moving the whole company to OpenOffice by the end of the year, and to Linux on the desktop a year after.
I was laughed at by some "consultants" that had formerly worked in my school district, when I started converting their Novell systems over to Linux. Now that it's done, and things work better than ever, Novell decides to convert itself over to Linux wholesale...who's laughing now?
Gessh...
Don't be too quick to discount it just yet. Aside from the places that just won't upgrade till hell freezes over, It appears you have a choice between a Netware kernel or a Linux kernel in their upcoming products.
Oddly enough I was talking about this to someone the other day and at the time based on other releases and info from Novell I had originally thought that Netware the OS would be quashed and would be reimplemented as a service layer on top of a Linux distro. I really didn't see having interchangeable kernels as the option.
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IBM is NOT porting MS Office to Linux. They are currently using it in conjuction with WINE. The ultimate goal would be for them to use OpenOffice.org as well.
iFolder is a major gift to the Linux community and is an excellent sign to me that Novell is committed to Open Source Model not just the "we're on the Linux boat" fad. Until you've used iFolder and seen your files move from desktop to desktop with little to no effort on your part, you just can't understand. It's seamless, it's secure and it's reliable. I encourage all of you to give it a try! Thanks for a great product and thanks for believing in the OSS community Novell!
If you were to put a sniffer on my NetWare 5 network, you would see the File and Print services (and NCP services) are TCP/IP packets. The only thing that forces me to run IPX are the stupid JetDirect cards. But I digress.
Currently, the NetWare OS is a set of NLMs (NetWare Loadable Modules). This is what they talk about when they say the NetWare 'kernel'. I'm pretty sure it is C code and some Assembler.
The plan is that when you install NetWare 7, you will get your choice of 'kernels' - either the old NLM based one, or the new Linux 2.6 based one.
And, since all the NetWare services will be / can be running on Linux - those services can be integrated into a Linux distibution.
The most valuable Novell service is its eDirectory. They also have an application distribution product, ZENWorks; and of course their email system, GroupWise; a whole set of products that use the Directory for tailored access (BorderManager firewall, a web-portal product, biometric security, single-sign-on password management, iFolder file synchronization, and more).
So the 'integration' is perhaps better described as porting what they do to both platforms. Your choice of kernel - but you will still be running eDirectory and other Novell services.
Did I explain that well enough?
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I just attended a "computer professionals" meeting here in St. Louis, where a Novell rep. gave a presentation on Novell's product line and roadmap for the future.
.NLM modules written specifically for Netware as options. (EG. Novell shops could turn servers into such things as SQL database servers as well as just file/print servers, without resorting to purchasing additional boxes to do it.)
As I understand it, the next version of Netware is going to give users the option to install with a traditional Novell kernel at the core of it, or alternately, a Linux kernel.
We asked him why they didn't just "go all the way" and turn Netware into a "value added layer" on top of Linux, rather than bothering with continued support of the old Netware kernel.
Basically, he said that *could* happen in the distant (5+ years away) future - but currently, the old kernel is considered by many to be "robust" and "tried and true", so they'd be hesitant to switch to a Linux kernel in the short term future. Still too many enterprise customers with a "If it works, why change it?" mentality...
In any case, I think Linux may breathe some new life into the Novell Netware line - rather than phase it out. Novell seems interested in such things as the ability to plug in Linux-based additions to Netware, rather than having only
I wouldn't toss the CNE out as "worthless" just yet. It may enjoy a small resurgence in usefulness, if Novell plays their cards right.
You are partly correct, but there are a couple of points to make:
1) IPX/SPX is a routable protocol, so it is not limited to the LAN.
2) IPX/SPX is better than TCP/IP in mnay respects, but the Unix community was committed to a non-proprietory protocol.
3) Early versions of Windows used NetBIOS, which is no good for the routed world.
4) Short sighted managers figured since they have Microsoft on the desktop in front of them, doesn't it make sense to have a Microsoft Server?
I don't make predictions, and I never will.
eDirectory hasn't been called NDS for a few years now,and eDirectory has been running on Linux/AIX/Solaris/HP-UX for a few years now. I beleive you can still get a 50k seat license for free. Although it is closed source, it is one of the best LDAP implementations avalible. Two large shops that are using eDirectory are the Star Alliance (a group of airlines) who uses it for customer tracking requireming a directory system for soem 300 million objects. The other big one I know of is CNN (take a look at the bottom of their page, powered by eDirectory). CNN did not allow for a fair comparison agianst the other directory systems, and they still won the contract, everytime you surf CNN their directory is updated.
Novell's Client32 never has and never will transmit the password without encryption by default. The password stored in eDir is encrypted and so is the one used to compare sent by the client. cat