Yahoo and Hotmail Filter Flaw
gandam writes "Israeli computer security firm GreyMagic Software has detected a serious security flaw in Yahoo's Web e-mail service and Microsoft Corp.'s Hotmail service, which could allow hackers to run malicious scripts on users' computers. I tried sending a mail to my yahoo account and it never reached my mailbox. According to the website, all attempts to contact Yahoo unfortunately failed. Mail was sent to security and secure at yahoo.com and at yahoo-inc.com. No replies were received to date. Works only in IE5, though."
Had me worried there for a second.
Still, I've got friends who run IE, and now they'll have incentive to learn the true joys of Mozilla FireFox.
Thanks for the heads-up.
hanzie
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to use Mozilla, Konqueror, Opera, et al instead of IE.
GreyMagic started work on this issue with Microsoft on 11-Mar-2004. They have quickly confirmed our findings and were able to produce a fix less than two days later. As a result, Hotmail is no longer vulnerable to this method of exploitation.
Wow...I'm actually sort of impressed that Microsoft fixed a vulnerabillity in their product that was pointed out to them in email, rather than ignoring it until it blew up in their face. . .
If it lets scripts run on a client, why is this considered a flaw in hotmail/yahoo rather than a flaw in IE? I tried reading the article, but I am not that familiar with HTML and scripting.
Well, like most /. folk, I'm using Firefox on BSD on an SPARC.
If you lets your friends and relatives use Windows and IE, then you are only harming them (and the rest of us who get slammed by their viruses trying to break mutt on my machine).
Take the needle out. Put down the crack pipe.
Really, the web took off because it was platform independent and full of juicy goodness.
"Must us IE" or "best used with IE" means that they should STOP using http to transfer their garbage and only serve on MSN.
Really. The web sucked the business out of Compuserve for a good reason. Open Platforms and Open Standards were the big attraction. Remember?
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During the myDoom.* fest, I asked our SVP about looking at deploying Linux on the desktop for users who don't truly actually REQUIRE MS and MS tools.
He asked if I "thought Linux was ready for the desktop here."
"Hmmm," said I, "I'm not 100%. But do you think Windows is?"
That Yahoo and Hotmail are pretty much the most used/spammed services out there, and therefore will have their security holes pinponted sooner than lesser-known services. Doesn't mean that the lesser knowns are more secure, just blissfully ignorant. Something to ponder...
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You say this company is clearly focused on security; well, it should be, after all the trouble Microsoft has been through recently (all those exploits for windows that were, needless to say, pretty major).
Whatever people may say, Microsoft has got a lot of money. Money usually means that you can pay for important things. It is good to see that Microsoft isn't totally slacking and letting things go to rot.
I would expect the same of IBM and Sun.
If only FireFox would take a page from these slimebags and make it as easy to install the better browser as it is to install Hotbar. We could get way more people converted that way.
Yeah, right.
Do they also need fixes?
The real "Libtards" are the Libertarians!
So what. Just because you run windows doesn't mean you have to use IE. In fact I make my living supporting Windows and Netware and I run IE only when absolutly necessary (mostly to test out problems my clients are having with it). The rest of the time I run Mozilla for both browsing and email.
There are 4 boxes to use in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, ammo. Use in that order. Starting now.
Here's a question: What are the odds that this came to the surface due to the leaked source code? It contained code from IE 5 IIRC...
Remember that Hotmail was down on Friday March 12.
This is the time when Microsoft was working on the fix. Could the two events be related?
I still want to know how they would get username/password with javascript. Only way I could think of is to write my own fake loggin screen.
Have you ever been to a turkish prison?
When I worked for a VLSI team in Boston in the late eighties, our CAD vendor had a support contract which promised one major release a year. But it was almost a year since version 4.0, and their new release wasn't ready. So they just patched their latest release (4.2) with some bug fixes and a few minor features, and shipped it as 5.0. Everyone could see it was basically the same as 4.0 + patches.
When version 5.1 came out a few months later, that was a huge change over 5.0! They replaced their standard menu-for-newbies + hotkeys-for-experts interface with the most hideous UI I've ever had the misfortune of using. It was based on "mouse gestures." You were supposed to "draw" a D with your mouse to delete a selected object, for instance. Half the time it would get the wrong gesture. Our productivity dropped precipitously, but because the 5.0 release had been rushed, there were bugs that were fixed in 5.1 and we couldn't work with the 5.0. So many customers complained that they quickly came out with 5.2, which was just 5.0 with the known bugs fixed.
So I've learned that the positions of the digits don't necessarily mean anything. Hell, you can't even assume monotonicity all the time!
I wonder why we never see articles blasting Linus for a bug that was fixed somewhere in the 2.3 development tree years after the fact.
But hey, that's shashdot. User clicks EXE file in an email - massive critisism of Windows security.
Remote Root vulnerability fixed in new Linux 2.6.3 kernel - never made it to the frontpage. If you use Linux you are supposed to read webpages or mailing lists daily and apply patches at least once a week. If you leave your Linux box online while you're gone a few days, there's always a chance that a new exploit is found and a 13-year old 0wn0r3z Y00 when you get back.