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IBM Invests $50M in Novell, May Ship SUSE Linux

dave writes "Novell announced that it has finalized a $50 million investment from IBM, and that IBM can now begin shipping SUSE Linux on all IBM server platforms. Historically, IBM has been a 'Red Hat shop,' and one has to wonder if this is a harbinger of things to come."

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  1. In other news.... by garver · · Score: 4, Informative
  2. A Red Hat shop? by Epeeist · · Score: 5, Informative

    > Historically, IBM has been a 'Red Hat shop,'

    This would explain why we have been running SuSE on our mainframes for the last two years then.

    IBM has had marketing agreements with Red Hat, SuSE and and TurboLinux for quite some time. It may favour Red Hat in the States, but it seems quite agnostic about which distribution to recommend to customers.

    1. Re:A Red Hat shop? by pe1rxq · · Score: 3, Informative

      Early versions did have a tendency to default applications to use A4 papersizes, though.

      Thats probably because they are european based...
      A4 is the standard format here, so we have the same problem with applications defaulting to 'Letter' format.

      Jeroen

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    2. Re:A Red Hat shop? by Epeeist · · Score: 4, Informative

      > Does it (Linux) run under a hypervisor, or on the bare metal?

      You can run it on the bare metal, but you lose a lot by doing so. Much better to run it under VM, when you can have a large number of instances running simultaneously. You can generate a new instance in about 90s.

      For those who don't know VM, this corresponds to installing a new version of Linux.

  3. Re:question? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    You must have been out of the IT world for quite a while. IBM sells:
    - intel servers (running linux or windows)
    - AMD opteron servers (SUSE has an AMD64 port)
    - power processor boxes (running AIX and linux)

    A press release from 2000: SuSE delivers Enterprise Linux for IBM RS/6000

  4. Re:question? by nharmon · · Score: 5, Informative

    They are THE major player in the very large server market, however they are still a formitable competitor in the medium-sized to Pentium-class server market.

    And for good reason. IBM packages their servers with a LOT of goodies. IBM Director (formerly known as Tivoli) comes free with every server. And now we're getting SuSE.

  5. IBM and SUSE go waaay back by los+furtive · · Score: 3, Informative

    This isn't the first time IBM gives SUSE a hand.

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  6. IBM *not* a "Red Hat shop" by mrhartwig · · Score: 4, Informative

    IBM has been far from a "Red Hat shop" in the past. SuSE has had -- until the release of Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3 -- better mainframe support, and SuSE's Enterprise distros for the Power architecture (pSeries & iSeries) has also been better.

    You've been able to get SuSE Enterprise for Power with your pSeries box for a while now (sorry, no time to look up specifics, and this is /. anyway; why clutter a good post up with verifiable facts). IBM has also had a relationship with Red Hat (Hardware Management Consoles for the partitionable pSeries boxes use a customized RH distro), so it's not like they've been *only* SuSE.

    Remember, at one time, in the not-to-distant past, IBM was a "partner" with 4 different Linux distributors: Red Hat, SuSE, TurboLinux, and (gasp) Caldera. So, you might as well say IBM's been a "SCO shop" for a while, too.....

  7. Re:question? by barthrh2 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Out of the IT World? More like off of the planet!

    IBM is the #3 server vendor in the world behind HP and Dell. They have about 15% market share. IBM has been investing billions into Linux and the types of servers that would support it best (notably blade servers -- perfect for grids).

    In December 2000 IBM committed to invest $1Billion in Linux software, hardware, services, the open source community and partnerships during 2001. That's only 2001! If anything, they have only increase their rate of investment.

    Add to all of this their strong commitment to WebSphere and Java, and you have a company that has more than embraced Linux. When IBM invested 2.5 Billion in a new semiconductor manufacturing facility,they automated the facility using Linux.

    Come back to our world where Big Blue is bigger & bluer than ever!

  8. Re:IBM not a Red Hat shop by NoSuchGuy · · Score: 3, Informative

    Remember that the first industrial-strenght implementation of a Linux system on the mainframe has been a joint effor by SySE and IBM.

    The s390 source tree in the linux kernel was developed at the IBM Research Lab at Boeblingen (Germany) around 1999.

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  9. Probably been said, but by zerocool^ · · Score: 4, Informative

    Harbinger of things to come is the latest phrase from the department of redundancy department.

    A harbinger describes things to come, so this phrase is equal to "A fortelling of things to come of things to come". Not only that, but Merriam-Webster (my online dictionary of choice, since dictionary.com implemented annoying popups and banners that give people siezures) lists 2b (n. one that foreshadows what is to come) as a precursor to the modern definition (one that pioneers or initiates a major change). Not that "an initiator of major change to come" makes much more sense, as "initiator of major change" already implies something is to come.

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  10. Re:IBM is a company by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Been there, done that and believe me, asking a woman if she wanted to come to your place to see your 3 foot inflatible penguin will _not_ get you laid.

  11. Re:What's the point? by BCW2 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Reliability. They are also faster than x86, especially in read/write to the HDD. Stripped arrays are fast.

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  12. ppc by Johnny+Mnemonic · · Score: 3, Informative


    Interestingly, from SuSe's FAQ:

    Will there be a PPC edition of SUSE Linux 9.0?

    Answer: no.


    Although Suse once had a PPC port, it is clearly stagnant; this investment from IBM very likely means that it'll be revived, but that'll take a least some doing. Yellow Dog Linux remains the best choice to run Linux on your Mac, apparently, even the one with an IBM processor.

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  13. Novell has decided to use KDE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    NOVELL has decided to go with KDE as desktop rather than GNOME.

    Read more here. This is a direct quote from Novells Chris Stone.

  14. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 5, Informative

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  15. Re:Big Blue Nothing? by spafbnerf · · Score: 3, Informative

    According to http://rootprompt.org/article.php3?article=6115

    Yes it does exist, and has existed for quite some time.
    Yes it is based on code from another popular distribution in the wild.
    I have it and have used the last 3 releases. Latest release is still in beta but they basically have taken the "unnamed distro" and layered on IBM software and customizations.
    Latest version is beautiful, and lightyears ahead of the last release that is about 1yr old by now.
    Customizations such as on first-time boot, it will detect your windows partitions, search out you Bookmarks, My Documents, and Lotus Notes ids and migrate them over to your linux install.
    very slick...new customized splash screens desktops, openoffice templates, etc.
    and yes i said Lotus Notes 6.5 running under linux with a customized version of wine. (based on opensource code from codeweavers i believe)..
    Just taking a sec to put rumours to rest, no screenshots, as its an internal product under development and we all tend to like to keep out little secrets to ourselves. Sorry.
    But yes Blue Linux is alive and well.

    www.bluelinux.org : no route to host
    bluelinux.sf.net: Rebellious fingers owned u

  16. EDU perspective by SuperQ · · Score: 3, Informative

    We wanted to license SuSE for a 16 processor machine. A commercial license for SuSE was $4000 (4x 4proc $1000 license), EDU license was much cheaper, $400. It took 2 weeks to PO a SuSE vendor who supported EDU pricing.

    After installing the system with SuSE and running their update utility, the new kernel installed by the utility doesn't boot, even after contacting SuSE enterprise support, they had no answer, except to boot the old vulnerable kernel.

    RedHat EL was $50, and we downloaded ISO's the same day we paid.

    We arn't running SuSE anymore.