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PIRATE Act Introduced in Congress

certron writes "Xeni Jardin has written a story for Wired about the "Protecting Intellectual Rights Against Theft and Expropriation Act of 2004" aka the PIRATE Act. It and another related bill are designed to criminalize P2P filesharing by lowering the burden of proof for law enforcement and proposing jail terms of up to 10 years. The bill was introduced by Sens. Orrin Hatch and Patrick Leahy, both of whom received large contributions from the entertainment industries. Under the bill, even sharing a single file (if a judge decides the value is over $10,000) could land a user in jail. Read the full text of Orrin Hatch's remarks."

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  1. Excuse me while I smash my head into the wall. by The+I+Shing · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A bunch of college kids are sharing copyrighted corporate products (music and maybe movies), so we have to put them in prison because people who share music and movies online are a bunch of child molesters and terrorists. Yeah, makes sense to me.

    This is the kind of thing that Frank Zappa warned us was going to happen.

    Sure, we say it all the time, "Corporations are running the country," meaning that corporations have undue influence over lawmakers; but it's getting to the point that we're going to have to find a stronger statement, like "Corporations are completely and utterly in charge of every aspect of our daily lives, using the government and their nearly exclusive control of all media content to keep it that way." Or something shorter if we can think of it.

    Mein Gott, what can we do?

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    1. Re:Excuse me while I smash my head into the wall. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Artists make very little percentage off of CD sales when they are signed by major labels. Artists make there real money off of touring live, thats why every group does it, alot. Basically CD's are just a way to advertise there concert. Which in all reality, sending songs over the internet is more effective at that. The only people who really care about CD sales and song downloads enough to sue people and put them in jail are the corporations and record labels who make all of their money off of CD sales.

      Personally, I could care less about about the major record labels and would rather them go bankrupt.

    2. Re:Excuse me while I smash my head into the wall. by Ridgelift · · Score: 5, Interesting

      This is the kind of thing that Frank Zappa warned us was going to happen. Sure, we say it all the time, "Corporations are running the country," meaning that corporations have undue influence over lawmakers; but it's getting to the point that we're going to have to find a stronger statement...

      Take a look at The Corporation as a stronger statement. Here's the synopsis:

      "Considering the odd legal fiction that deems a corporation a "person" in the eyes of the law, the feature documentary employs a checklist, based on actual diagnostic criteria of the World Health Organization and DSM IV, the standard tool of psychiatrists and psychologists. What emerges is a disturbing diagnosis.

      Self-interested, amoral, callous and deceitful, a corporation's operational principles make it anti-social. It breaches social and legal standards to get its way even while it mimics the human qualities of empathy, caring and altruism. It suffers no guilt. Diagnosis: the institutional embodiment of laissez-faire capitalism fully meets the diagnostic criteria of a psychopath
      ."

      Bill Gates might not be psychotic, but his "person" the Microsoft Corporation is a psychopath if there ever was one. Add also the RIAA, MPAA, SCO...psychopath, psychopath, psychopath.

  2. Re:Yet another gun control law... by grub · · Score: 5, Interesting


    Laws like this make me proud to live in a backwards country such as Canada.

    I hear ya man..

    I think there will soon be a market in junkets to Canada for Americans that will want to (smoke pot|buy cheap prescription drugs|download movies and music)

    I have 2 spare bedrooms for rent!

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  3. A serious question. by mcc · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Out of curiousity.

    Some time ago on Slashdot the possibility of a "geek PAC" was discussed.

    This is a quesiton somewhat along the same lines. Essentially:

    Exactly how much money would it require to do whatever necessary to* remove Mr. Orrin Hatch from a position of legislative power in the United States government?

    I think you could find a variety of private citizens, from a number of corners, who would be ecstatic to donate to such a cause, due to the probable benefit it would have in terms of protecting the civil rights, artistic expression, and technological progress of this nation. Slashdotters annoyed at his attempts to introduce increasingly violent anti-file-sharing bills are just the tip of the iceberg.

    * legally

  4. Social Evolution of Corporate Power by handy_vandal · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Sure, we say it all the time, "Corporations are running the country," meaning that corporations have undue influence over lawmakers; but it's getting to the point that we're going to have to find a stronger statement, like "Corporations are completely and utterly in charge of every aspect of our daily lives, using the government and their nearly exclusive control of all media content to keep it that way."

    Social evolution in action: corporations are more efficient -- better adapted to their environment -- than nation-states.

    Nation-states, in their day, were more efficient than kingdoms; which were more efficient than city-states; which were more efficient than tribes; which were more efficient than individuals.

    I don't like it, but I accept that it's nature's way: the strong flourish, the weak fail.

    Mein Gott, what can we do?

    About corporate power? We can do nothing.

    Live your life well, try to bring more love than hate into the world. That's all. No big stuff -- no Revolution, no Topple the State, no Stop the Corporations. Work to your scale, as an individual; the rest is History.

    -kgj

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    1. Re:Social Evolution of Corporate Power by CrookedFinger · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Or you could continue to take part in the development of newer, more distributed models of power that are more efficient than large corporations...

  5. huh? by Ender77 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Weird, Part of it says that more powers needs to be given to law enforcement to combat "Piracy" but then it contridictoraly says that, most antipiracy legislation has been unseccessfull. Um, whats the point then?

    Also, out of the blue it suddenly throws in pornography? What is it about republicans and this constant crusade to stop porn? Someone please contact this fool and tell him that PORN IS NOT ILLEGAL! Sorry, when they start going after our porn, thats when they have GONE TOO FAR! :)

  6. Declaration of war? by Openstandards.net · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "Tens of thousands of continuing civil enforcement actions might be needed to generate the necessary deterrence." -- US Senator Orrin Hatch The "tends of thousands" phrase sounds more like a declaration of war against the citizens of America by the increasingly corporate owned government of ours. When 1.5 million people are downloading today in America, most of which are law abiding citizens that don't traffic in drugs, commit violent crimes, and pay for their groceries. Could this have happened if the RIAA and MPAA were not busy purchasing our congressional representatives? How do we stop this? I don't just mean the bill, I mean how do we stop the trend. How do we get politicians to represent the people again? One question I have is how are we a representative democracy if we are no longer represented? After years of this news growing, I still have not seen a coordinated large-scale effort to restore balance in our government so that it truly represents the people, and respects our principals. While I consider myself a free market capitalist, and personally choose not to download music that the creators do not offer for free, I completely disagree with treating the American people as dissidents, as this bill and other are increasingly doing. Is China becoming more like us, or are we becoming more like them?

  7. Re:"Enshrined in our Constitution." by smchris · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's gotten pretty interesting in a purely scholarly way. We have a backlogged stockpile of literally 100 years of audio and video entertainment now. I mean, how much can a person consume? Entertainment _should_, by economic laws of supply and demand, be as cheap as tap water.

    Ergo, draconian protectionism. Something has to give.