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Say Goodbye to BuyMusic.com

Posted by CowboyNeal on from the can't-say-i-ever-said-hello dept.

dark_lotus writes "Spymac.com today is reporting that an e-mail sent to prior customers of BuyMusic.com, informing them that BuyMusic.com is being merged into the parent site, Buy.com. Spymac reports: BuyMusic.com initially expected to sell one million songs per day or 200 to 300 in the first year according to estimates by founder and CEO Scott Blum. When re-interviewed in December, Blum offered no statistics, but did say, 'We're nowhere near Apple's numbers.'"

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  1. Buy.com you fools by colinramsay · · Score: 3, Interesting

    We took advantage of a voucher offer that buy.com were running here in the UK to rip them off to the tune of a few hundred pounds. A few simple security checks would have prevented it but they obviously weren't organised enough for that.

    Having seen that masterpiece of commercial stupidity I'm not surprised that this venture is failing.

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  2. Consolidation begins by G4from128k · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Its a case of too many players (online music sites) and too few players (downloaders). I suspect the industry will converge down to 4 or 5 major online music sites. Initial survivors of the first round of consolidation will include: Apple (they've got the iPod, nice interface, and early lead), Microsoft (they've got the desktop monopoly), and Wal-Mart (they've got the low cost structure). Perhps a couple of others might surive by having a nice sales model (e.g., subscription) or novel technology (i.e., a better way to find new interesting music).

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  3. Is it just me.. by jwthompson2 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    or did anyone else never see a single advertisement about this alternative to iTMS? I have seen hundreds of commercials and other advertisements for the iPod and iTMS but never a single one for BuyMusic. The only thing I remember hearing was on TechTV when some billboard was shown off somewhere when the site opened, that's it for my exposure to their marketing campaign.

    Am I alone on this or can we equate market failure with marketting failure on this one?

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    Even if I knew that tomorrow the world would go to pieces, I would still plant my apple tree. -Martin Luther
  4. Re:Give me a break. by Troed · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Several people running non-mainstream websites (like my own) have reported IE falling below 60-65% since 6 months ago. My site is not targetted at anyone particular (like a Linux-site would be) - but neither is it especially mainstream.

    Statistics for February:


    1 62.21% MSIE (all versions)
    2 14.00% Mozilla (All Gecko-based browsers)
    3 9.46% Opera (all versions)

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    it's in my head
  5. Re:The tragedy... by parkrrrr · · Score: 4, Interesting

    According to a piece on All Things Considered yesterday, the RIAA's attempts to vilify "pirates" are apparently discouraging potential customers from buying online, even from legitimate stores like iTMS and Wal-Mart.

  6. This didn't help... by microcars · · Score: 4, Interesting
    remember the flak they got from one artist who claimed they did NOT have permission to resell her songs because they got the bulk of their catalog from Orchards.

    bit 'o quote from the above link:

    Here's what I've deduced... BuyMusic.com (which I will refer to as BM) got their "vast" music library of 300,000 plus songs from a company called the Orchard. The Orchard is a distribution company that has consistently shafted artists by not paying them for CD's sold nor returning unsold CD's or canceling contracts. So, without the express consent of what is likely all of the Orchards catalog, BM has put it up for sale at the bargain price of $.79 a song.

    So now, they can tout they're selling tracks at $.79 and they can say they have a library of music of over 300,000 songs. But what they don't tell you is that it comes from musicians/bands that were not asked for permission, and who will likely not see a penny of any sale made through BM. By their very own site policy they are committing copyright infringement. They have done this to lure PC/windows users to their site in hopes to sell the few major label aquired songs they do have, at a price that is much higher than Apple's $.99.

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    1. Re:This didn't help... by ThisIsFred · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Oh, real nice. >:o/

      That's one step worse that just redistributing illegal copies via P2P, because they were actually collecting money. Consumers want a) a big catalog, b) lower prices than just buying the CD, and c) no DRM. Sorry, but it can't be "choose any two", that area is already occupied by Apple. Maybe, since a ton of redistribution costs are eliminated, and since the music has already been published... Maybe, just maybe, the record labels might want consider lowering their cut of the sale. After all, the hosting fees are being soaked up by the company that's hosting the files and running the ebiz site. Bandwidth costs could be added as a subscription fee, the more you pay, the more files you can download a month/day/week.

      However, I'm fairly certain this isn't going to fly with the big record labels until the computing public stops getting a free lunch with downloads of copyrighted material. We've got a credibility problem while that's still going on. Every generation of legislation is going to be worse than the one before, until it's a felony. Anyone can look at the progression of these laws and see that the slippery slope argument does apply. And "use-prevention" (i.e. DRM) gets worse, too.

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      Fred

      "A fool and his freedom are soon parted"
      -RMS
  7. I bought something from them by jfengel · · Score: 3, Interesting

    One song. I'm not a big music listener, but I wanted one particular song that I liked. I think I paid a buck for it.

    The experience was OK. Yeah, all the usual incompatibilities made the process less fun than it might have been. I had to upgrade to a version of Windows Media Player that I'd been deliberately avoiding. But that's one-time pain.

    So I bought my song, and listened to it a half-dozen times, and got my buck's worth. And didn't go back. Next time I needed a song, they didn't have it (it was somewhat more obscure). I went to iTunes instead and have bought another, oh, three or four songs from it.

    I bring this up because I suspect that while I fall at one end of the spectrum, it shows that music services need to be prepared for the fact that many users don't buy twelve albums a year. You can advertise like crazy, but even if you do manage to acquire a customer, it's still not going to rain profits down on you. Selling popular music will remain a difficult business in which only very large players will be able to compete.

    (Unpopular music, the kind many Slashdotters claim to prefer, which always seems to be the first thing people check for on a new music service, will always be something of a money-losing proposition.)

  8. Is this really a surprise? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I think what these marketing geniuses are not considering is the new "internet word of mouth" factor. The books they've studied in college were probably writen when internet wasn't even around. These people are underestimating the buzz that can be generated on the internet because we are the first people to try new things and report on them in blogs, forums, etc. Has anyone seen a buzz regarding any of these DRM-laden WMA files? I've seen a plenty of excitement about iTMS, but none in relation to BuyMusic.com, Rhapsody, WalMart, Napster, et al. In fact, the noise is overwhelmingly negative when it comes to these distributors. Considering that most opinionated geeks on the internet don't use IE, should have been an indicator as to why it failed to generate the positive response from the masses. You treat them in a hostile manner, and your product or service fails to put up the kind of astronomical numbers some 40y/o suit scribbled on his business plan.

    So let this be a lesson to those people who want to market their product to masses if it involves the internet - Never disregard the netizens who are the first real quality assurance team. They wouldn't let me through the gate of the store because I was using Firefox. Nevermind the fact that I'm a very dedicated Windows user who was ready to test the service out. My experience while visiting BuyMusic.com:

    ME: get buymusic.com
    BUYMUSIC.COM: Hello. It seems that you're behind times with your browser. I'm going to assume you're using some kind of an archaic operating system like Mac or Linux, savage. Please go buy a real computer with WindowsXP then come back! Otherwise, go away. You are not welcome here.
    ME: Wait, I am a Windows user. It was awfully condescending of you to generalize.
    BUYMUSIC.COM: Sir, we apologize. Please open your real browser and come check out our selection of music.
    ME: Fuck you.

  9. Old /. campfire stories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I had this friend in high school who back in the eighth grade bilked CDNOW to the tune of thousands of dollars. CDNOW used to have this 'affiliate program'-- similar to Amazon's, though I can't remember who developed it first-- where if you followed a link from somebody's website to CDNOW, then bought something, you'd get a referral commission, a percentage of the sale.

    What my friend discovered was that this commission applied even if you didn't actually spend money-- that is, if you used a gift certificate. This lead to a nice little unintended consequence.

    What my friend did was set up two accounts with different credit cards, and then buy a $20 gift certificate with one of them. And then he just over and over, for months, would go back and forth, taking that gift certificate, going on cdnow via his affiliate link, using the gift certificate to buy another $20 gift certificate, and then giving the gift certificate to his other cdnow account. Then repeating. Over. And over. And getting the referral commission each time.

    By the time someone finally realized what he was doing, shut down his account, and closed the loophole, I believe he'd collected something like $3000 in referral fees just from passing this gift certificate back and forth. And since CDNOW was set up to automatically send free schwag to anyone who did well as a "referrer", and he kept triggering this, he had like 15 CDNOW t-shirts, all these posters....

    He then moved on to... doing nebulous things... on ebay. By the time we graduated high school he was well-known for scalping concert tickets. I don't know what happened to him after that. I would not be surprised if he's either CEO of some huge company or in federal prison by now. Or both.