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Watch Your Neighbors Political Contribution
arrianus writes "Fundrace.org gives a fascinating perspective on campaign donation laws. You can look up people's political donations to the current presidential campaign based on name (type in a friend's name, and see how much money he donated, and to whom), location (see which of your neighbors are politically active). I leave the privacy implications of this as an exercise to the reader. How long before this is tied into marketing databases? What happens if an employer were to prescreen employees based on political leanings?" Well, it is illegal to screen like that - and frankly, for a healthy democracy, it's probably better to have this in the open. Still, disturbing to see.
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What happens if an employer were to prescreen employees based on political leanings?" Well, it is illegal to screen like that
Since when has anything being illegal stopped people from doing it? This system will be abused - even if nobody ever gets caught abusing it.
and frankly, for a healthy democracy, it's probably better to have this in the open. Still, disturbing to see.
Why? Could somebody please give me a solid reason as to why this is of benefit to a democracy? (though, of course, the US is a federal republic - not a pure democracy).
If I want to contribute to the Satanist party (or whatever), why can I not choose to do so in private? Worse still - it looks like you can't opt out of this data being collected and accessed by anybody. Knowing that contributions are going to be made available in a public-access database is a hell of an incentive to not donate any money.
Making any private citizen's financial transactions public is bad - it's only one step from being able to look up anbody's bank balance.
It's alot like www.opensecrets.org. I really think that anything involving the government should be as open as possibile, including figuring out where politicians get their money. I want to know if there is any possibility for a candidate to be influenced by his big donors (cough, cough, bush).
This is a GOOD thing. We should know who's donating to what political party, if only to keep people (and money) in check with power.
Just because something CAN be private, doesn't mean it should be, or that you should should get uptight about someone offering it to the public or individuals. I don't see what the problem is with making this kind of information public. It's definitely wrong to discriminate against someone based on this information, but wanting it to be unavailable sounds like curing a disease by killing the patient.
The way I see it, if you're making donations or otherwise supporting your political party or viewpoints, you shouldn't be afraid to stand up tall and say it loud and proud. What exactly would you be supporting that you don't want other people to know about? If you don't want other people to know where you stand on certain issues, political or not, maybe you should think about why you're supporting those issues or groups in the first place. If you're hiding any of your beliefs or opinions because you're worried about offending or alienating someone, then you just simply don't believe in them strongly enough to justify raising a fuss when those beliefs or opinions are trampled on. In other words, I think people should speak up BEFORE their silence creates the problem.
For extra credit you can send $100 money orders (purchased with cash) in the names of people you look up in the phone book... or in Chicago, the obituaries.
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Why would it be illegal to discriminate on the basis of politics? I don't see anything on this at the FEC site.
The government can't discriminate on politics (first amendment) but the rest of us can. Age, gender, race, disability, and so on are protected by specific civil rights law; they are "protected classes." you can, however, refuse to rent to or employ someone on sexual orientation (most places), height, odor.... and if you want to hire only republicans for, say, the RNC, go ahead.
however, it regrettable that disclosure might chill some contributions. but with public financing of campaigns we could get around all of this nonsense and candidate groveling for contributions.
Connie E. Ballmer
Homemaker
N/A
George W. Bush - $2,000
3832 Hunts Point Road
Bellevue, WA 98004
Steven A. Ballmer
C.E.O.
Microsoft
George W. Bush - $2,000
3832 Hunts Point Road
Bellevue, WA 98004
Atleast Gates was smart enough to not give money legally, he probably gave massive amounts under the table....
Problem with this mechanism is that it subverts the $2000 maximum. See I'm a low-level manager for company Y, my manager mentions to me about how much he likes Mr. Bush and in the same sentance hints that reviews are coming up soon and that mid-year end bonuses could be very generous. I know I'm giving to Bush, and I know most of my fellow line supervisors are also giving the 2K maximum. That's errm, about 1000*2000=2M from our company alone... and we are not even Fortune 100.
Here! Here!
Discrimination has become such a negative term these days. I consider myself a person with discriminating tastes. I discriminate when I choose my friends, when I choose the neighborhood where I want to live... the muffin that I want to eat (I prefer poppyseed) etc...
Discrimination is part of our constitutional right to Freedom of Association. I for one am in favor of the government limiting discrimination in it's own actions. But people are promised the right to associated with anyone who would associate with them willingly and they are also free to *not* associated with anyone.
As horrible as it is to discriminate based on things such as race, color, sex, politics, religion etc.
The right to discriminate is just as much a right as the right to free speech.
Before you flame... consider this.. most people think that there is a constitutional right to seperation of church and state**. I would suggest this line of reasoning
1) There is a right to freedom of association
2) Many people want to protected minorities (etc)for moral reasons
Now ponder this... how different is this from forcing a religion on someone? Forcing morals on someone... but not only that.. forcing morals that the constitution specifically says can not be enforced via freedom of association.
**There isn't any thing saying that there is seperation of church and state in the constitution, read the fine print... the framers just didn't want something like the Church of England. The specific wording was "...shall not establish..." What do you think establishing religion entails?? The line is fuzzy... but maybe today's supreme court has taken it a little to far.
At any rate... I would probably not discriminate based on someone's politics... I get along fine with the "Psycho Seattle Liberals" that I work with everyday... we have fun poking at each other's politics. But I would support the right of someone to choose who works for them.
Goodness knows I get flamed all up and down this joint for espousing conservative views... but that's what I get for having a big mouth. =)
We need to get good Civics classes back into our schools... I feel like I have to explain the entire US Constitution in every political discussion I have ever. Even if there are dissagreements... it's good to have some sort of knowledge of history and how our government was founded.
=)
~foooo
Interesting theory, but doesn't really stand up. Check out: http://www.opensecrets.org/overview/DonorDemograph ics.asp?cycle=2004
Also, check out the whole site..pretty interesting!
for a healthy democracy, it's probably better to have this in the open.
For a really healthy democracy, you'd need to get rid of political donations completely.
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That's not illegal in most states, and I wouldn't be surprised if it's not illegal in any state. You can discriminate or fire someone (in most states) for any reason that isn't EXPLICITLY outlawed. And at the federal level, the only prohibited reasons are race, color, religion, sex, national origin, age over 40, and disability.
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I do suggest you seek legal counsel. Your management may have made you an accomplice to a felony. At the same time, if you report this crime and it doesn't get picked up for investigation(and most reports don't), you would most likely loose this job--so I'd consider your options here very carefully. The above is not legal advice-but I suggestion that you get such advice.
I would look for an attorney with experience handling high level whistle blowing cases and lawsuits associated with such cases. You may have grounds for a lawsuit against your employers management since it appears plausible that your employer is making clear that commission of a felony will play an important role in your future at that company.