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Portable Word Processors?

paulcole asks: "I am currently an English major and short story writer, who is in the market for a word processor. My laptop is a good enough tool, but I feel that it isn't quite what I need for a portable writing tool. Namely, I want something smaller, more portable, and easier to use. Right now, I am looking at the QuickPad Pro and the AlphaSmart Dana. Any insight on either of these products, or any others out there, would be very helpful." Do these 'smaller and more portable' devices necessarily justify the trade-offs in power and flexibility that a laptop with a full fledged word processor would provide?

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  1. A writing tool? by jfdawes · · Score: 2, Funny

    The first thing that comes to mind is, ta da! A pen. Or a pencil, you could try a pencil. Possibly a crayon, I hear some people even do legal briefs in crayons

  2. I'd opt for the Dana by almaon · · Score: 4, Informative

    Why? Palm OS, there's flexibility in the software choices. Choice is a good thing. Easier to sync with another computer, for printing, email, whatever. WiFi option could be a butt saver on occasion.

    I always thought there should be more devices similar to this. A full blown laptop is great, but you lose some qualities like stellar battery life, low cost, lightweight. It'd be cool to have laptops with grayscale screens (if anyone made them anymore to keep the cost down in volume). I think it'd be great to have even 20 hour battery life, the thought of 100's of hours on AAA's sounds pretty damn good to me.

    Exhalted dreamer...

    1. Re:I'd opt for the Dana by innosent · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The only problem I see with the PDA approach is the keyboard size. If you're going to do serious writing, I would think that you would want a standard size keyboard, which puts you back in the realm of 12" notebooks. Personally, I would prefer something like an IBM Thinkpad X series, since you get extremely light weight (as low as 2.6 pounds I believe), and long battery life (up to 8 hours on main battery, probably more like 6 with heavy writing). Older models can be found cheaply on eBay, and you still have all the power of a laptop, just in a thin, lightweight package. I haven't used the 12" Powerbooks, but if you're an Apple person, that would be the obvious choice, though the battery won't last as long. IANAW, but I've done 8 hours of programming work on my old Thinkpad T23 (with an extra ultrabay battery) before, and even the T series is light enough that carrying it around is no burden.

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    2. Re:I'd opt for the Dana by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      The Dana's battery life (25 hours easily), good keyboard, and "instant-on" (no waiting for it to boot up) are really awesome. You won't regret getting one for writing. Check the AlphaSmart forums for more feedback from writers -- there's even a subforum specifically for writers.

      As a geeky plus, there's a C compiler suite available for the Dana. Nothing like writing C code on a transatlantic flight and not having to worry about battery life at all.

    3. Re:I'd opt for the Dana by CastrTroy · · Score: 4, Informative

      If ones gets the Palm Keyboard they can have a full size keyboard in much smaller and extemely less weigth than any regular laptop. The batteries also last for a great deal longer. I got an m100 and the keyboard. Covers all my word processing needs

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  3. Why not just use a PDA? by jkakar · · Score: 3, Informative

    You can get relatively inexpensive keyboards for most PDAs nowadays. The Palm ones fold down pretty small... not quite small enough to fit into a pocket, but close. The screens on newer devices are clear enough that you'd probably be able to work without too much discomfort.

    1. Re:Why not just use a PDA? by siriuskase · · Score: 3, Informative

      That's what the Dana is, just a large Palm OS with an oversized screen and a keyboard. Plus it has Documents To Go built in and wireless. And USB ports, so it has more than a typical PDA for about the same cost. It just won't fit in your pocket.

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  4. Eh....smaller laptop? by SenatorTreason · · Score: 2, Informative

    You mention you'd like something smaller and lighter. The QuickPad comes in at 11.5" x 9" x 1.5", the AlphaSmart Dana at 12.4" x 9.3" x 1.9", and, for comparison, a 12" Powerbook is 10.9" x 8.6" x 1.18. The Powerbook weights twice as much as the other two, but is actually smaller than the word processors. So, you can get a work processor that is bigger, but weighs less, but can only do one thing and has a shitty screen. OR you can get a Powerbook that is smaller, can do many things, a great screen, and only weighs two pounds more. Is two pounds really going to make that much of a difference? Just get a smaller laptop.
    Assuming, of course, that money is not a constraint.

    1. Re:Eh....smaller laptop? by HoneyBunchesOfGoats · · Score: 2, Informative

      I didn't look at the QuickPad, but the Dana can run on 3 AA batteries. Powerbooks do have good battery life, but with those extra 2 lbs. you were talking about, many more hours of battery life can be carried along.

    2. Re:Eh....smaller laptop? by Bastian · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Figuratively speaking, bigger is not always better. Sure the laptop is smaller and has a bigger screen. But the laptop carries a price tag up in the next order of magnitude (The cheapest 12" PowerBook costs $1070 more than the most expensive Dana) and an order of magnitude less battery life. That definitely counts as a huge loss in portability to me.

      One doesn't need to be financially constrained to think that the Dana is a better choice. Especially when one already owns another laptop.

  5. Model 100/200 by jhoger · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I have seen some writers who like using the model 100/200 TRS-80. They are antiques (and unfortunately for the buyer, somewhat collectible), but they have really good battery life and an extraordinary keyboard.

    You can find some on Ebay.

    1. Re:Model 100/200 by jhoger · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Actually looked around and there was also model 102, and the WP2/ WP3 that had similar ability to run off AA batteries, long battery life and low weight.

      Looks like you can buy refurbed WP2 or 3... seems like a good way to go. Those companies you listed are charging *way* too much for what today is an appropriate application for a microcontroller and a few cheap ICs.

      http://www.8bit-micro.com/wp2wp3.htm

  6. More info on writing w/PDA by LeninZhiv · · Score: 2, Interesting

    There's a good web column Writing on your Palm that's all about the topic of using a PDA as a writer. I recommend checking out the past columns for a whole slew of info on Palm vs. PPC, handy add-on software, and the like.

    It makes sense to use a PDA with a full-size keyboard, in my opinion (you get maximum portability plus word processor compatability), and with the same purchase you'll have an MP3 player and organiser (and portable web browser and e-mail client, if you get a decent one). Something to consider.

  7. nother writer's experiences by Anna+Merikin · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Small is nice, but I have used various computing devices for the past fifteen years to write/edit with varying degress of success. First, about keyboards: They are personal choices. Some writers have favorite instruments: some use a pen and yellow-lined paper, others like Vonnegut use index cards and a pencil. Me, I touchtype. If you don't, you will not be slowed down by non-standard keyspacing. If you do, however, getting used to a smaller keyboard may get in the way of the "creative process."

    I first used an old (even then, in 1990) IBM PC-II 8086 with the usual 9" yellow-on-black display. I discovered that the more of what I have written is displayed on the screen, the better I edit -- and write, too. Scrolling up and down looking for where a long sentence or paragraph started is no fun at all on a small screen.

    I then tried a Full Page display, which was tits, but I had a devil of a time getting WordPerfect to display the full screen on it.

    Then, about 1992, I bought a new laptop, my first new computer and a huge investment. Big mistake, as it had a cramped 8 1/2 in display on which I could barely make out the text.

    Small keyboards and small displays suck for me as a writer; they may for you too. My favorite road instrument now is an old IBM Thinkpad without the floppy or CD-ROM drives installed to save weight. Its 12-inch display is OK for editing and shows enough lines to keep the scrolling to a minimum.

    At home, I have replaced the old FP with a 19-inch monitor and I write/edit in 2-column in WP-8 for Linux at the smallest point size I can read easily. For displaying lots of text, choose a serif style as it is quicker to be recognized by the eye.

    Think thrice about the PDAs unless you don't touch-type and your stories are very, very short.

  8. palm os by image · · Score: 2, Informative

    try a palm pilot, the palm portable keyboard, and something like pedit. seriously, for under $200 USD you can have a very functional word processing environment, and a whole lot more.

    i used the palm keyboard for a while and was constantly amazed at both how portable it was (folding up to roughly the size of the palm pilot itself) and how much like a real keyboard it felt like.

  9. Charlie Strope's solution by Lumpish+Scholar · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Charlie Strope,a science fiction writer who just finished his eighth novel, and whose latest novel was reviewed recently on Slashdot, dreams about a hypothetical ideal solution ("a tablet iBook") but writes about the solution he uses:
    I still own a laptop for doing laptop-y things.... But when it comes to going away for a couple of days, travelling around and making notes or working on a short story, the Dana is far more portable/usable than the laptop -- and the Treo 600 is just about good enough to use for responding to email. Between them they weigh (and, if lost, cost) half as much as the laptop, not to mention having double or more the battery life.
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  10. Re:Palm [Phone] and a Keyboard by Bastian · · Score: 4, Interesting

    But that's essentially what the Dana is. Except the Dana has a much larger (and wider) screen, which makes it much better than any other PalmOS device for serious writing. And the keyboard is much, MUCH nicer than any other keyboard for a PalmOS device that I've used - and better than many laptop keyboards. The keys have a much better response, and you can use the keyboard on your lap since you aren't trying to keep your PDA balanced upright on top of a flimsy foldable keyboard. It probably costs less than Palm phones, too.

    I got to help test drive an AlphaSmart Dana at a previous job, and seriously considered buying one for myself despite the fact that I already owned both a laptop and a Handspring Visor. The high-end model even has 802.11b, which is rare in PalmOS devices. For certain uses (having something to carry around with me at all times so I could work on text documents during down time in my case), they're really much nicer than a PDA (near-worthless for any serious work with text documents and has only an hour or two's battery life if being used continuously) or a laptop (darn heavy and also can't spend too much time away from a power outlet without dying).

    I've never used the QuickPad. It's much cheaper, but it doesn't run PalmOS - which I consider a major plus on the Dana. What's the point of having computer, any computer, if you can't install video games on it? Other than that and the more limited feature set it means for the QuickPad, it seems like the QuickPad provides better stowability at the expense of a poorer view of the screen by making the screen flat rather than tilted upward.

    Personally, I'd go with the Dana.

  11. Re:AlphaSmart Dana by Bastian · · Score: 2, Informative

    The new Danas are much more sophisticated. They run PalmOS and store actual text files. You can use them to edit MS Word documents if you want. For $50 over the price of the basic version, you get Wi-Fi and can check your e-mail, surf, etc.

  12. Apple eMate by sakusha · · Score: 3, Informative

    Sounds like the long-discontinued Apple eMate is just what you want. I saw a new-in-box eMate 300 on eBay for a buy-it-now price of $200, you could probably find a good one for around $100. It's basically a Newton with a keyboard, it seems designed for writing, good keyboard, basic B&W screen, good battery life. Zap your text over a serial cable to your main CPU for further work.

  13. Tools. by saintlupus · · Score: 3, Informative

    When I was working on my BA in English, my preferred writing implement was a Pilot Precise pen, Very Fine tip, and a stack of legal pads.

    When I started working on my thesis, I bought a Powerbook Duo because it weighed less than most of the books I was toting around already.

    Since your laptop seems to be unsatisfactory for some reason (too heavy, maybe?) you might want to look at either an older subnotebook (a Duo, or perhaps a Toshiba Libretto or a Sony Picturebook) or something smaller. Apple made a Newton with a built-in keyboard called the eMate that was pretty nice. Fantastic battery life, decent screen, and designed for elementary school kids so its damned near indestructible.

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