Slashdot Mirror


FreeBSD on the Athlon64 in 64bit vs Pentium4 3.2E

veliath writes "Came by a comparison from about three weeks ago, between two systems running FreeBSD. One is an Athlon64 running FreeBSD in 64bit mode and the other a Pentium4 3.2E running FreeBSD in 32bit mode."

15 of 74 comments (clear)

  1. NETCRAFT NOW CONFIRMS: *BSD IS DYING by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    It is official; Netcraft confirms: *BSD is dying

    One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered *BSD community when IDC confirmed that *BSD market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

    You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.

    FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying.

    Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

    OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.

    Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

    All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dbblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.

    Fact: *BSD is dying

  2. Re:HT & threads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    now that OSen are supporting it

    Jesus fucking christ...

  3. It has been confirmed, Linux sucks... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    From Improving
    Passive Packet Capture: Beyond Device Polling.

    "Linux, a very popular OS used for running network appliances, performs very poorly with respect to other OSs used in the same test" (FreeBSD and Win2k).

    "The Linux kernel module is almost as fast as the userspace FreeBSD application".

    Percentage of packets captured (in user space), using device polling, at 80,000 packets per second? Linux 5.6%, FreeBSD 99.9%. Linux manages 99.5% only using a kernel module.

    SO LINUX MUST GO TO KERNEL SPACE TO ALMOST BE AS FAST AS FREEBSD WITHIN USER SPACE! Oh yeah, Linux runs much better than the BSD's.

    Maybe if you BSD is dying trolls stopped crapping on here about BSD dying and instead actually learned a language apt for your OS of choice, you might actually be able to bring Linux up to "dead status" with the BSD's.

    But wait, it gets worse! While trying to capture packets from a DoS application, Linux could only manage capture rates of 0.8% in user space and 9.7% in kernel space, while FreeBSD managed 74.7% in user space!

    "FreeBSD performs much better than Linux"

    "it is obvious that a vanilla FreeBSD system is much more efficient than a vanilla Linux system when used for packet capture."

    1. Re:It has been confirmed, Linux sucks... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      ... at packet sniffing. In other news, FreeBSD
      sucks
      at
      everything
      else

      From the recent tests performed by a BSD advocate, and linked here, we see Linux 2.6 has TRIPLE the exec throughput of FreeBSD 5.2, TRIPLE the context switch speed, less than half the system call overhead, and all, of course while being far more scalable.

      I suggest that if you really have the need to show that FreeBSD is better than Linux, then you should concentrate on something other than performance. Stability might suit you better, because it is far more difficult for someone to get evidence either way to counter your FUD.

      Have a nice day.

    2. Re:It has been confirmed, Linux sucks... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      Troll? Sure.

      If you FreeBSD zealots don't want the facts to escape, I suggest you stop giving me such easy targets.

      At least if you use the old "stability" or "better engineered" lines or something equally stupid, I won't be able to easily prove you wrong.

  4. Why BSD ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    Why install BSD and not a popular OS like Linux or Windows 2000 on such fine hardware ?

    Installing a dead OS is almost an insult.

    I installed BSD once, and it was no fun. All the features are to ensure you have absolutely no fun and never enjoy anything you do. Immutable files everywhere, the OS restricts you in any way possible, and performance is lackluster.

    I told BSD what everyone should say, "NO THANKS!"

    1. Re:Why BSD ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      I think they used BSD to show the quality of their hardware. Like "if our hardware excels with this crap OS, imagine what it can do for you!" - it's a marketing trick.

  5. *BSD Joins the "B" Team by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    It is with a heavy heart that we must report that Bob "I'm still dead" Hope has gone on to join the "B" team. As you all may know, BSD has been part of the "B" team for quite some time.

    The Year of Our Lord 2003 has been a particularly bad year for the "B"s,

    • Bob Hope
    • Buddy Ebsen
    • Buddy Hackett
    • Barry White
    • BSD
    This honored list of dead is but a small token of adieu from the many fans of the deceased.
    These dead were truly some American Icons. They will be missed.
    1. Re:*BSD Joins the "B" Team by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      Actually, I won't miss BSD. It wasn't very good, to put it charitably.

  6. What I'd like to know is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll
    Why do all comments that aren't flattering of BSD get moderated as "troll"? I have used FreeBSD for several months, I've read the handbook. I have also used various Linux distributions for years (but mostly Debian).

    You can stifle free speech all you want, but you won't change my opinion that FreeBSD simply isn't anywhere as good as Debian in terms of reliability, ease-of-use and maintenance and user community. And I'm not saying this because I used Debian for very long - I gave FreeBSD a try at about the same time as Debian. I'm not saying this because I'm a GPL bigot either - my opinion is purely technical.

    1. Re:What I'd like to know is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
      Why do all comments that aren't flattering of BSD get moderated as "troll"?

      Because if you have nothing good to say about the dead, you shouldn't say anything at all. That's why.

  7. BSD is very stable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    BSD is so stable, it doesn't move at all. Wait, doesn't breathe either.

  8. think about the benchmarks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    The benchmarks show that BSD is 2-5 times slower depending on the task being performed, so why do these zealots still use it? Someone needs to help them get their heads out of their a^H behinds.

  9. how do I moderate the story down? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    thx. I think the story is a troll. 99% of benchmarks are trolling just to get people angry.

  10. Re:Ultimate 64 bit Nethack box! by evilviper · · Score: 0, Troll
    Both of those approaches are a perfectly good way to do things. All that matters is how fast the user's applications run in the end.

    Yes, the fact that Intel's approach will melt your heatsink means nothing at all, and should be completely disregarded.
    --
    Slashdot gets worse every day... Pipedot: News for nerds, without the corporate slant