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Java Evangelist Leaves Sun After MS Settlement

aeoo writes "The Register says that Rich Green, the vice president of developer platforms and the major public voice for Java is 'quitting Sun in disgust' due to the recent settlement between Sun and Microsoft. The article hints that there may be more to follow. On the other hand, there is an article at eWeek with a different slant, saying that Rich Green tendered his resignation prior to the settlement. What impact, if any, will this have on open sourcing Java? It looks like Sun is still considering it."

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  1. Good bye Java by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    It's been nice knowing ya. Here comes .NET!

    1. Re:Good bye Java by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

      Spelling correction - +6, Pathetic.

  2. Re:Give me a break. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    It would be so nice if you were hit by a bus today.

    I'm serious.

  3. Re:"Patent Agreements" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Stupid mods.

    Who the fuck modded this turd up?

  4. Re:"Patent Agreements" by mabu · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    My prediction for the future:
    3. Java is dead.


    In the future? Dude. Look around you now.

  5. We'll see. by mosel-saar-ruwer · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    You cannot survive by selling commodities at a premium, except by bullying your clients into paying the extra, and it's a self-defeating strategy. Every Microsoft user is at a competitive disadvantage, and eventually will either switch, or go broke. The argument that Microsoft software gives you a competitive edge is unproven and rather goes against all experience.

    I wouldn't write off Windows as a commodity, and I certainly wouldn't assume that Windows doesn't add value.

    I just spent a couple of weeks helping an acquaintance put together a massive graphics presentation [the final file was just shy of 100MB] for a professional conference, all done on Apple OSX. Guess what? OSX is an utter and complete piece of crap, at least as far as the end user experience is concerned. Apple was supposed to have the original drag-n-drop experience, but I doubt that current revs of OSX have one-tenth the drag-n-drop capability of recent Microsoft OSes. This deficiency applies even to flagship Apple partners and their ports to OSX, especially Adobe & Photoshop/Illustrator. And lest you flame me as a Microsoft fanboy, I learned to program about ten years ago on an old NeXT slab using Objective C, so I've got a heckuva sentimental attachment to the platform.

    But back to my point: You people have used COM/DCOM & its drag-n-drop capabilities for so long that you've simply taken it for granted. While it may utterly suck as a programming paradigm [and, in all seriousness, when you get right down to it, what programming paradigm doesn't utterly suck?], it works for almost all end-users almost all of the time.

    OSX is a joke. Linux on the desktop is such a sack of shit that it doesn't even qualify as a joke - it's more like a parody of a joke.

    And you guys better watch out for .NET. Yeah, it utterly sucks [like all programming paradigms; see above], but it sucks A WHOLE HELLUVA LOT LESS than the competition it's about to blast right out of the water. Oh, and I'm a long time Novell CNI/CNE, so don't tell me how I don't want Ximian/Mono/SUSE to be a success.

    PS: If you think Java doesn't utterly suck, try to JAVAC the following code:

    long theArrayLength = GREAT_BIG_HONKIN_LONG_INT;
    double [] theArray = new double[theArrayLength];

    for(long i = 0; i < theArray.length; i++)
    {
    theArray[i] = blahBlahBlah(i);
    }

    Then remind me just why it is that I should be purchasing that brand-spanking new AMD64 platform, not to mention why I should purchase a SPARC-64 platform that costs more than my house? And while you're at it, remind me why I should start my new object-oriented database with 32-bit languages like SQL [max BLOB at 2^32 bytes] and Java [no support for 64 bit array indexing], as opposed to C# [native 64 bit array indexing] and something like the .NET object persistence initiative?