Java Evangelist Leaves Sun After MS Settlement

aeoo writes "The Register says that Rich Green, the vice president of developer platforms and the major public voice for Java is 'quitting Sun in disgust' due to the recent settlement between Sun and Microsoft. The article hints that there may be more to follow. On the other hand, there is an article at eWeek with a different slant, saying that Rich Green tendered his resignation prior to the settlement. What impact, if any, will this have on open sourcing Java? It looks like Sun is still considering it."

Comments

Cat got your tongue?

[SparafucileMan]

Sun is scared to open-source Java because the "zealots" will end up turning it into LISP.

Re:Cat got your tongue?

[RLW]

(For (Bob's (sake (quite (bashing (Lisp!)))))) ((((((It's) a) wonderful) language) and) all) other) lauguages) ((would) ((be) (happy))) (to be) (((just) like) it)(!)

Re:Cat got your tongue?

[Valdrax]

No, no, no. You didn't get the syntax right at all!

(map (quit reader (bash reader LISP)) (for sake Bob))
(and (is it (fill language wonder)) (become (just-like LISP (subtract all-languages LISP)) happy))

See, much more readable!

Re:Cat got your tongue?

[scrytch]

youre->right(I.think(*lisp>(crufty[t o][(most*)people])));

Re:Explain

[Neil Blender]

Sun became $un.

It's my Java, and I'll leave if I want to....

[LibertineR]

leave if I want to....leave if I want to. You would leave to if it happened to you.... da da da da da da da.

It's the principle!

[Chromodromic]

Okay.

So what did he say as he was leaving?

GREEN: "What do you think this is about? Hmmm? MONEY?"

MCNEALY: "Well, um ..."

JOY: "Actually, yes."

MCNEALY: "Well, okay, yeah, yes. I would have to, yeah ... Yes."

GREEN: "Oh, so THAT'S the way it is. So you've coldly abandoned the noble principles of SOFTWARE!?!?"

JOY: "Uhhh ... Yeah."

MCNEALY: "The what?"

GREEN: "Well if all you people care about is 2 billion measly dollars, I'M LEAVING!!!"

JOY: "Okay."

MCNEALY: "Yeah, don't let the door hit your ass on the way out ..."

Re:Quick summary of the near future

[Anonymous Coward]

3. The next software war will involve Microsoft and IBM directly
4. IBM will win.

Oh, you mean like OS/2 vs. Windows 95.

dibs

[TedCheshireAcad]

I call dibs.

Already faxed my resume to Sun's HR.

Re:What does Sun stand for, now?

[Anonymous Coward]

Self-Undermining Nerds

He'll be reincarnated

[Virtucon]

He'll come back as Anders Hejlsberg II. Long live Object Pascal er uh, Delphi, er uh Java!

Delegates and C# for everyone!

SUN Windows ;)

[kompiluj]

Imagine this running Windows.

Re:Not just time...

[Anonymous Coward]

lose, it is lose, not LOOSE

Re:Huh?

[fm6]

YMBNAH (You must be new around here). all developments raise new hope for Open Source, the immediate demise of Microsoft, the impending arrest of SCO management, and free wireless broadband for everyone!

That said, it does appear that Sun's corporate culture is beginning to lose some of its arrogance. Symptoms of this arrogance include not just the pointless holy war with Microsoft but the widespread belief that Sun (or even a particular unit within Sun) is the only true judge of The Right Way to Do Things. This attitude is why they don't want to open up Java -- they'd no longer have veto power over changes in the platform.

I see the rise of Jonathan Schwartz to Sun COO as a big step forward. He used to head a NextStep application/component development house called Lighthouse Design. When the NextStep market failed to materialize, Sun bought LD and turned it into the nucleus of a Java application/component development unit. Then that market failed to materialize, and Schwartz was cast adrift in the treacherous waters of Sun corporate politics.

Don't really know anything about this guy, or what he's been doing recently -- but his NextStep and Java experiences are not likely to leave him full of the HyperAttitude Sun has way too much of.

loose

[Anonymous Coward]

Perhaps he meant that he was going to loose his marketing on you - like loosing dogs on someone in your yard.