Suicide Caught on Surveillance Tape Appears Online
Jason writes "Reuters reports (and News.com mirrors) that the video of a man who shot himself after his girlfriend broke up with him has appeared online under the heading of 'Introducing: The Self-Cleansing Housing Projects.' It goes on to say that the police officers receive no training to deal with privacy issues."
It came up a few minutes ago but not it doesn't!
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1) He was named "Paris Lane"? like some bastard cross between Paris Hilton and Lois Lane but about 10E8 less sexy?
2) This is low-incoming housing, right? where did he get money for a gun if the taxpayers are helping him pay rent?
3) does dead people have actual rights regarding privacy? I mean, pretty sure that there are laws against defiling a corpse, but suicide is considered felon in like 9 states anyway, and I am pretty sure felons get less rights than regular people... still beats getting your body dragged through the streets and buried at a crossroad w/ a stake through the heart, though (old english punishment for suicide)
4) erm... this appeared on a... pornography website?
I don't care if you mod me up or mod me down, somebody at least answer the questions
My life in the land of the rising sun.
If it was a video of the mayor's son shooting himself I have no doubt the city would proclaim that some law or police regulation gave them the right to take it down. But in this case they are protecting a police officer from what most people would consider pretty repugnant behaviour.
Liberals call everyone Nazis yet they are the closest thing to it.
I'd say he's been immortalized by the internet. I used to have a huge collection of bizzare, funny, disturbing, etc things collected from around the net. It was the most accessed section of the web-site. Whenever I'd forget to All Access Pass it, I'd do several gigs of transfer in a single day. I pulled it because it conflicted with my other interests. Like running a nice clean site. If you want to build a very popular site very fast, collecting internet pulp culture is the way to do it. If you can stomach it.
The mom should counter by posting embarressing pictures of her son so he's not remembered as that guy who blew his brains out. Perhaps as that guy who burned his eyebrows off when he was 12.
But somehow I don't think that will work as well.
Ben
Work Safe Porn
Or when the news anchors themselves commit suicide.
"Hey, everyone else is running out to see Mel Gibsons snuff film. Whats wrong with this one?"
This guy's real, Jesus wasn't.
Say what you want about religion, but we're definitely sure the actor who played Jesus was not fatally harmed during the making of the movie. He was, however, struck by lightning.
Yesterday I took a piece of paper from District Court to the Police station, on it was an order to erase my record of arrest because I hadn't committed a crime. I asked for a reciept or confirmation that they had erased my records and they said there was 'no procedure for that, trust us'. Now I don't have proof that my employer won't find this particularly offensive record when they do occasional background checks (I work at a school).
Privacy of suspects and citizens surely is part of the police duties, if they can provide records they should be obligated to properly handle them.
"Sometimes, I think Trent just needs a cup of hot chocolate and a blankie." -Tori Amos on Nine Inch Nails
The Supreme Court unaminously ruled that the right to privacy attached to family even if the person in the photos is dead.
Consider this other possible motive.
It's been over 40 years since JFK was killed and there are still all kinds of wild theories about it. With the few people who have seen the Vince Foster death scene pictures there are already all kinds of wild theories about it. Imagine how much worse that would get if millions of us were allowed to examine those pictures.
Is it really about his family's rights, or could this be about keeping a lid on it?
LK
"Hi. This is my friend, Jack Shit, and you don't know him." - Lord Kano
CJ
Under "worst death clip I've ever seen" I believe.
Warning: It's fucking unpleasant - if you dont want to see nasty shit, don't click
Send lawyers, guns, and money!
Freesdom of information doesn't mean no secrets. It means people not being penalised for knowing something, and not being penalised for telling someone else. Right now, I can go to jail for longer than for stabbing a baby for passing on certain information to my friends (like digital information like mp3s). Thats _just wrong_.
People should be allowed keep secrets if they want to - but there should be a "barn door" doctrine for _all_ information - once the secret is out, it's out. If you're foolish enough to let me know your $WHATEVER_SECRET_NUMBER, it should be _your fault_. But neither of us should be punished for _that_. If I abuse my knowledge to harm you, _that_ should be a crime. But making knowing something a crime? That's just stupid. Fantastically stupid. The last time we tried that, the churches plunged my continent into a thousand year dark age, commonly known as "The Dark Ages"....
If anything else, it desensitizes us about humanity. Sure lot of bad things happen in the world but that doesn't mean we need to watch it night and day. Some people seemed to be obsessed with watching these stuff almost to the level that they are addicted to it. Now that is pornographic.
Yeesh, way to push your ideas on everyone else.
I hate to break it to you but death is normal. It's going to happen to ALL of us.
There are lots of people out there who absolutely hate this idea so they seek to aviod ANY reminder of it (not just suicides/murders).
Most of the people bitching in this thread wouldn't be nearly upset if this was a video of someone being BORN.
Is it sad if someone dies before their time? Yes.
Is watching some video on the internet going to make a healthy indvidual loose respect for human life? Hell no.
Hell, I play GTA all the time, killing people, steaing cars, etc. Am I "desensitized" to actual crime and violence? No.
You mentioned one end of the spectrum:
those obsessed with these type of videos and therefore death
At the other end of the spectrum there are those who don't want to acknowedge that death exists.
The majority of the people who watch this type video have a healthy viewpoint and are *gasp* curious.
In most modern societies we don't see death that often because our old folks die in nursing homes and hospital beds. People know that death is going to happen to them, but they've never seen it happen to someone else. They want to know.
If you watch this video and think "that's sad" you're normal. If you watch this video and think that others must be protected from seeing it or they will begin to see death as normal, perhaps your viewpoint could use a little adjustment.
While death is a big deal, it shouldn't be a "reality shattering" concept.
All that said, I didn't watch the video because it is a sad event. I just don't think it's right to claim that watching this would make you "desensitized".
Then again, look how offended we're all supposed to be about seeing a nipple! Somehow I didn't think it was a big deal. I must be "desensitized" right? It couldn't be that someone else has an unhealthy viewpoint.....
Life is too short to proofread.