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FCC to Reorganize 800mhz Band?

nick0909 writes "Years in the making, the FCC is finally close to deciding if they will allow Nextel to pay for the reorganization of the 800mhz bandplan. In return the FCC will give Nextel a new band in which to operate their phones, where they won't destroy public safety communications. Other cell companies are angry because they had to pay millions for their GHz frequencies, and argue Nextel is getting off cheap. On top of this, if the 800MHz band gets re-sliced, will the FCC continue to push TV broadcasters out of 700MHz, which was supposed to go all to public safety in the coming years?"

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  1. What's the fair thing to do to them? by mindless4210 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think the issue is pretty straightforward, and if their service is interfering with emergency bands then it needs to be reallocated. The good question is, what's fair for them afterwards? It doesn't seem like such a move should put them out of business, but some are trying to do so.

    The FCC couldn't make up their minds at the last meeting, will things change at the next? I have a feeling this could get pushed around for a while.

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  2. It's the FCCs fault... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They should have seen this comming before selling that spectrum to Nextel. It's too bad that it's interfering with emergency services but the FCC sold Nextel a license to use it and revoking that license w/o awarding equal bandwidth elsewhere will put Nextel out of business, which is just not acceptable.

    Of course Verizon and Voadfone don't like it! They see this is a way to easily kill of some competiton.

    1. Re:It's the FCCs fault... by rfmobile · · Score: 4, Insightful
      They should have seen this comming before selling that spectrum to Nextel.

      Nextel purchased existing licenses as well as "new" licenses from the FCC. The pre-existing licenses were converted for use in Nextel's cellular network.

      In both cases (pre-existing and new), Nextel agreed to operate the licenses in a responsible manner. That's part of the license - like using your driver's license to operate automobile in a responsible manner.

      -rick
  3. Switch to GSM !!! by Uzull · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Would resolve a lot of issues !
    a. Lower prices ! The telco equipment, because of competition, is reasonnably priced
    b. Interoperability ! 1billion GSM users, what should I say more
    c. Frequency to choose from ! Available are : 850, 900, 1800 and 1900 Mhz. Adapt to local regulations!
    d. Roaming ! When Nextel own service is not available, they could have local roaming agreements with t-mobile or at&t.

    End the end the customer would be the winner !

  4. Re:America's Most Wanted by Vellmont · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And why is it necessarily Nextel at fault, and not a building blocking the signal, out of range, or sunspots? I'm sorry, but Americas Most Wanted isn't really a news source I really trust. That and the dumb cops of the world and you've got a news source less reliable than slashdot.

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  5. Bit of history about the contentious 800 MHz band by footage · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Nextel's poor behavior as a spectrum-sharer has worried many public-safety-communications officials whose ability to redesign their systems is subject to politics and shrinking budgets. Their proposal puts the public sector at a real disadvantage, no matter how much money they propose to throw at the problem.

    Public safety agencies started to move up to 800 MHz frequencies in the early 1980s. In some cases, these moves were promped by spectrum scarcity, but in many more instances it was equipment manufacturers (especially Motorola and Ericsson) who convinced local agencies to buy complicated and failure-prone trunked radio systems. These systems were often (though not always) solutions in search of problems, and their performance has often been questioned. It's clear that advanced communications technology doesn't necessarily guarantee the safety of personnel; quite the opposite is true, in fact. (Try Googling "trunked radio system problems" for more on this.)

    Since 9/11, loud voices have been calling for "interoperability" in public safety communications, in order that different agencies might better be able to speak with one another. New 800 MHz (and now 700 MHz) systems have been touted as a solution. Unfortunately, competing and contentious departments (like the NYPD and NYFD) won't talk with one another regardless of how much money is spent on systems to connect them. New York City had an interagency 800 MHz system working on 9/11 (the DoITT system, for those familar with NYC comms), and it saw very little use. Interoperability is most often a social and cultural issue, not a technical issue.

    Nextel plays a problematic role in public safety comms in another way. Many agencies, especially those engaging in undercover ops and including key Federal law enforcement agencies, prefer to let their own expensive radio systems gather dust and use Nextel handsets instead. Nextel offers comparative privacy (citizens can't monitor iDEN transmissions), group call, and cheap equipment. Tto the problem is that no proprietary system is as robust and reliable as many dedicated public safety radio systems. I'd hate to have to rely on a Nextel handset if I was doing risky undercover work -- I'd be competing for bandwidth with SMS spam and teenagers (Nextel markets to youth under the name Boost Mobile).

    Anyway, as most of us know, there are other ways to address communications issues than to lock up spectrum in the name of a few large corps.

  6. Re:What do you call fair ? by mgh02114 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Actually, for a cell phone provider, the 800-900 MHz band is far more valuable than the 1800-1900 MHz band. "800" allows cellular towers to be spaced much farther apart, significantly reducing costs to provide service to a given area. Much of this is do to the poor building penetration of 1900 MHz signals (I'm talking real world results, not theoretical physics) Case in point: ATT Wireless put 1900 MHz GSM antennas on their existing 800 MHz TDMA towars ... and the 1900 system had FAR worse coverage.