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FSF Migrating From Savannah to Gforge

bluestrain writes "It's been almost 4 months since Savannah was hacked. The site is still not completely functional, no new projects have been accepted since December 2003. Now it seems that the FSF is abandoning Savannah in favor of Gforge. RMS himself has confirmed the plans. A few developers are questioning the change. Hopefully the dust will settle and savannah can start accepting projects again."

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  1. I can understand that. by ideatrack · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is probably uneducated on the matter, but I can understand why they want to move.

    Frankly 4 months is way too long for the site to be "not completely functional" and it can't help but make you doubt the quality of the administration of the site if there weren't sufficient provisions in place for this eventuality. Any website is a target so any webadmin should have a plan in place.

    When there are seemingly more secure options out there, more reliable anyway, then you'd go with them. Being faithful is one thing, but you can only do that for so long.

  2. Re:RMSs history on security by winkydink · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Seems like Stallman has lost sight of his roots!

    or he's starting to show signs of being realistic.

    --

    "I'd rather be a lightning rod than a seismometer." -Ken Kesey

  3. Re:good news! by Queuetue · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Lately? I groan every time I see a project is hosted at sf - it means 20-minute mailing list searches, regular downtime, and the whole download-roulette game where you try to deal with the klunky interface and find a not-completely-dead mirror.

  4. Richard Stallman in hospital by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Let everyone hope that Richard Stallman gets well soon.

  5. Free Rider Problem; Tragedy of the Commons by David+Hume · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well, why dont you invest lots of money like SourceForge into servers and making it as good as it can be, I mean being over-loaded with people such as you who then complain that its starting to suck, well ofcourse it is and if its a problem you should help those good people out and donate resources to them.


    I understand your point. I too don't like it when somebody complains about a good or service that is provided free or at below cost.

    However, the post to which you are responding may also have a point. The free rider problem and the tragedy of the commons (or, perhaps more precisely, tragedy of the net-commons) are inherent and endemic problems with Open Source software and projects.

    Let's face it, Open Source projects are classically Marxist -- i.e., To each according to their needs, from each according to their ability. I'm not saying that to red-bait. On the contrary, I think it is kind of nice. :) However, it does require certain assumptions regarding human nature -- e.g., that people will act from good will, not be "lazy" (or place a different value on leisure), not freeload, etc.

    Which I guess is my way of saying that, given these problems, I'm always surprised when people are surprised when an Open Source or Free Software project is over-burdenend and/or under-supported.

  6. Re:There are some pretty big sites running GForge. by gavinroy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This would seem to be more a function of how *PHP* on the gforge server is setup. If register_globals is on, this will happen, if register_globals is off, which it is by default in the recent (read at least 1 year or more) stock php tarballs, this would not occur.