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James Gosling On The Sun/Microsoft Settlement

Posted by timothy on from the horse's-mouth dept.

greg_barton writes "James Gosling has responded to the two previous commentaries cited on Slashdot about the Java Dilemma. Some interesting excerpts: "In Rick Ross's 'Where Is Java In This Settlement?' he worries that Sun may have sold out the Java community. We didn't. We have not sold our soul to the Dark Side." and "There's a long thread of discussion on Slashdot 'Two Takes on the Java Dilemma' that is pretty entertaining, from a wow, what are they smoking! point of view. There are voices of reason, and conspiracy nuts.""

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  1. Re:Great! by dastrike · · Score: 5, Informative

    There are Free open source implementations of Java already. Not quite up to the same level as the Sun's offerings yet, but it is difficult to hit a moving target...

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  2. Sun's Generous Patent Grant by Karma+Sucks · · Score: 5, Informative
    Here's a link to Sun's patent grant for the full Java.

    So Java seems to be less encumbered than .Net at this point.

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  3. Re:let's see what happens by nathanh · · Score: 5, Informative
    Plus with Sun you get policies that are just insane. No other word really describes the behaviour. Example: It is obviously in Sun's interest to see a JVM on as many machines as possible. Their JVM is a free download.

    Sun's JVM is a free download.

    But you can't even redistribute unmodified copies of it,

    That might be true for Sun's JVM.

    which is why no linux distro includes a JVM. To use Java under Linux requires a user to go search it out, download a non-trivial package and install it.

    You're simply wrong.

    $ apt-cache search jvm
    kaffe - A JVM to run Java bytecode
    sablevm - Free implementation of Java Virtual Machine (JVM)
    orp - Java VM and JIT from Intel Research Lab

    There are several free JVMs on Linux and they are trivial to install (apt-get install).